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How to remove a circle from a circle
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Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Any creative way to get remove it? -- Stephanie: What did you do today? Leonard Hofstadter: Well, I'm a physicist, so I just thought about stuff. Stephanie: That's it? Leonard Hofstadter: I wrote some of it down. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. 99 cents on sale right now at HF http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_16048.jpg |
How to remove a circle from a circle
Metspitzer wrote:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Any creative way to get remove it? -- Stephanie: What did you do today? Leonard Hofstadter: Well, I'm a physicist, so I just thought about stuff. Stephanie: That's it? Leonard Hofstadter: I wrote some of it down. Photo of power supply. Sounds like a thin piece of plastic in computer. Drill small holes in plastic, really small carbide bit, then try turning pulling out ? Bits are easy to break. take battery out of unit first. Greg |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On 1/10/2013 4:53 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. ???looks like a power supply. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Hard to visualize what you mean. Any creative way to get remove it? Straight pin. Bend a tiny right angle on the pointy end. Poke it between the metal rod and the plastic thingie, rotate, pull. If it won't fit, heat it first. -- Stephanie: What did you do today? Leonard Hofstadter: Well, I'm a physicist, so I just thought about stuff. Stephanie: That's it? Leonard Hofstadter: I wrote some of it down. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
Oren wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. 99 cents on sale right now at HF http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_16048.jpg High vacuum. Drills. http://www.harborfreight.com/20-piec...bag-44924.html Greg |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:10:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. Sure. Just get a drill *slightly* larger than the central hole. It should jam in there pretty well. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:10:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. I forgot to mention that the inside of the computer plug has a center pin. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
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I'd go to anywhere where automotive tools are sold and buy a set of "dental picks".
Every dental pick will have a sharp point on it that should penetrate into that rubber O-ring. Stab into the O-ring with the dental pick and pull it out. Alternatively, sharpen a nail in a belt sander and use that to cut through the rubber O-ring. Then fish it out of the circle it's lodged in with a dental pick. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On 1/11/2013 1:01 AM, Metspitzer wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:10:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. I forgot to mention that the inside of the computer plug has a center pin. Actually the links provided were not pics, just links to google and Dell stuff. But, from what I did see, I was going to say that stupid Dell has a 3rd conductor in that power connector. It is used to guarantee that you HAVE TO BUY DELL POWER SUPPLIES. There is a memory chip inside the power supply connected to the 3rd pin, which supposedly tells the computer information about the power unit. I say it's just there to force you to by their overprices and unreliable (according to stuff I've found on the internet) product. In their laptops with this non-feature, they minimally don't let you charge the battery from 3rd party supplies. In some, according to googled links, they actually lower the processor speed with 3rd party supplies. On my Dull laptop, it apparently doesn't change the processor speed ... only lets you run the laptop, but not charge the battery. IMO ... DON'T BUY DELL LAPTOPS, if they have the 3rd center pin. Sorry for venting and sorry I really don't have a good answer for your post because I couldn't see the pic. BTW, you can buy the special 3 conductor power cords on ebay for a few dollars and replace the cord on the power supply if that is what is needed. But, if the center pin in the PC is broken, most computer replace places will get you for a new motherboard! |
How to remove a circle from a circle
Wes Groleau writes:
On 01-10-2013 23:55, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. Sure. Just get a drill *slightly* larger than the central hole. It should jam in there pretty well. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. The plug is a hollow cylinder. A drill will not bind in it, it will just make the cylinder spin. Furthermore, penetration of a drill bit any significant distance into the socket will damage the center pin of the socket. I would first try holding the laptop so that the socket points down, and gently tap on it near the socket on both sides. Probably won't work but worth a try. Second, put the attachment with the smallest hole on a vacuum cleaner, and see whether you can suck it out. Probably won't work but worth a try. Slightly better chance: make a special vacuum cleaner with you mouth, lungs, and two hollow coffee stirrers. Third, attempt to pull it out slowly and with very little force with very small tweezers. Too much force on one side will make it yaw a little and bind. Fourth, get the two smallest jeweler's screwdrivers you can find. Put them into the center hole of the plug on opposite sides of the pin. Angle them so that they point SLIGHTLY outward poking into the ring a little. Put a SLIGHT outward pressure on those points. Maintaining the angle and the outward pressure, slowly move the whole combination outward. So far, if these methods all fail for whatever reason, there is a more risky one: .... 7. Put a TINY amount of epoxy on the flat end of each toothpick. Pretty good suggestions. This one made me think of superglue. Put superglue on the end of a toothpick and hold or rest it on the exposed part. Shouldn't take long for a bond to form. -- Dan Espen |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:35:44 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote: On 1/11/2013 1:01 AM, Metspitzer wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:10:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. I forgot to mention that the inside of the computer plug has a center pin. Actually the links provided were not pics, just links to google and Dell stuff. But, from what I did see, I was going to say that stupid Dell has a 3rd conductor in that power connector. It is used to guarantee that you HAVE TO BUY DELL POWER SUPPLIES. There is a memory chip inside the power supply connected to the 3rd pin, which supposedly tells the computer information about the power unit. I say it's just there to force you to by their overprices and unreliable (according to stuff I've found on the internet) product. In their laptops with this non-feature, they minimally don't let you charge the battery from 3rd party supplies. In some, according to googled links, they actually lower the processor speed with 3rd party supplies. On my Dull laptop, it apparently doesn't change the processor speed ... only lets you run the laptop, but not charge the battery. IMO ... DON'T BUY DELL LAPTOPS, if they have the 3rd center pin. Sorry for venting and sorry I really don't have a good answer for your post because I couldn't see the pic. BTW, you can buy the special 3 conductor power cords on ebay for a few dollars and replace the cord on the power supply if that is what is needed. But, if the center pin in the PC is broken, most computer replace places will get you for a new motherboard! Toshiba |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:35:44 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote: On 1/11/2013 1:01 AM, Metspitzer wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:10:23 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. I've seen that happen with other barrel type connectors. Any creative way to get remove it? Undamaged? If you don't care about damaging it, you could use a drill bit just larger than the hole. Try drilling at very low speed so the bit snags on the ring rather than drilling through it. Once you get it snagged, pull the drill out. If that doesn't work a tap or an EZ-out will be sharper and might snag better. The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. I forgot to mention that the inside of the computer plug has a center pin. Actually the links provided were not pics, just links to google and Dell stuff. But, from what I did see, I was going to say that stupid Dell has a 3rd conductor in that power connector. It is used to guarantee that you HAVE TO BUY DELL POWER SUPPLIES. There is a memory chip inside the power supply connected to the 3rd pin, which supposedly tells the computer information about the power unit. I say it's just there to force you to by their overprices and unreliable (according to stuff I've found on the internet) product. In their laptops with this non-feature, they minimally don't let you charge the battery from 3rd party supplies. In some, according to googled links, they actually lower the processor speed with 3rd party supplies. On my Dull laptop, it apparently doesn't change the processor speed ... only lets you run the laptop, but not charge the battery. IMO ... DON'T BUY DELL LAPTOPS, if they have the 3rd center pin. Sorry for venting and sorry I really don't have a good answer for your post because I couldn't see the pic. BTW, you can buy the special 3 conductor power cords on ebay for a few dollars and replace the cord on the power supply if that is what is needed. But, if the center pin in the PC is broken, most computer replace places will get you for a new motherboard! Actually that power supply might be a Dell. I just googled for one that looked like my sister's Toshiba. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Friday 11 January 2013 00:53 Metspitzer wrote in alt.home.repair:
http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox- a&hs=lBU&sa=X&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en- US:official&biw=1600&bih=757&tbm=isch&tbnid=GRE5Un yHabg0fM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dell- laptop-battery.com/65w-new-ac-power-supply-cord-for-toshiba-satellite-a200- series-p-1816.html&docid=vjWT7eUZbwimyM&imgurl=http://www.dell-laptop- battery.com/images/categories/ATHP7000.jpg&w=600&h=450&ei=8mHvUIfXO5KC9gS9yIC4BA &zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=660&sig=108204960822776715989& page=1&tbnh=148&tbnw=204&start=0&ndsp=34&ved=1t:42 9,r:11,s:0,i:118&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Any creative way to get remove it? If there is any exposed plastic in the part the wants to *come out*, even if it's just 1/32" of an edge, --- and all else has failed --- try heating an unbent paperclip red hot, and with good aim, push it into the plastic - about 1/16" should do it. Let it cool and pull out, hopefully with the snapped of bit of plastic attached. If you bugger the laptop, it's not my fault ;-/ -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://www.dionic.net/tim/ "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Any creative way to get remove it? The piece that is stuck inside is hard rubber. I think my next plan it to just try to destroy it. I have a curtain rod hook handy with a sharp end. I guess I'll pick my way through with that if I can't find something better. I may try the hot paperclip. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:42:37 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote: On 01-10-2013 23:55, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. Sure. Just get a drill *slightly* larger than the central hole. It should jam in there pretty well. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. The plug is a hollow cylinder. A drill will not bind in it, it will just make the cylinder spin. Furthermore, penetration of a drill bit any significant distance into the socket will damage the center pin of the socket. Sure it will. You've never had a drill bit catch when drilling a larger hole? Just don't spin the drill fast enough to drill a hole. Try to get it to snag on the sides. A little cockeyed will do it. I would first try holding the laptop so that the socket points down, and gently tap on it near the socket on both sides. Probably won't work but worth a try. The cylinder is going to want to stay in there. If it didn't it would make connection when it was plugged in. Second, put the attachment with the smallest hole on a vacuum cleaner, and see whether you can suck it out. Probably won't work but worth a try. Slightly better chance: make a special vacuum cleaner with you mouth, lungs, and two hollow coffee stirrers. It's worth a try but I wouldn't give it any chance. Again, it's the contact that's stuck. There will be a significant force on it. ... |
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 19:53:48 -0500, Metspitzer
wrote: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&c...8&tx=133&ty=64 Here is a link to a photo of my sister's laptop. She said the laptop fell on the cord. I think what happened was that when the laptop fell on the power supply a plastic ring on the end of the plug came off inside the laptop port. Any creative way to get remove it? I was trying to split one side of the plug end. After many unsuccessful attempts, my niece gave it a try. I may have worn the inside of the circle a small amount, but she was able to work it out without breaking it. I really wish I had one of those awl type tools. I think it would have done the trick. Thanks everyone |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On 01-11-2013 09:56, Dan Espen wrote:
Pretty good suggestions. This one made me think of superglue. Put superglue on the end of a toothpick and hold or rest it on the exposed part. Shouldn't take long for a bond to form. Superglue works best on smooth non-porous surfaces. That's why I suggested epoxy instead. -- Wes Groleau In any formula, constants (especially those obtained from handbooks) are to be treated as variables. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On 01-11-2013 15:54, wrote:
wrote: On 01-10-2013 23:55, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. Sure. Just get a drill *slightly* larger than the central hole. It should jam in there pretty well. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. The plug is a hollow cylinder. A drill will not bind in it, it will just make the cylinder spin. Furthermore, penetration of a drill bit any significant distance into the socket will damage the center pin of the socket. Sure it will. You've never had a drill bit catch when drilling a larger hole? Just don't spin the drill fast enough to drill a hole. Try to get it to snag on the sides. A little cockeyed will do it. Of course I've had a drill bit bind when drilling into something that tries to hold still. Never when drilling into something that weighs half a gram and spins freely. I would first try holding the laptop so that the socket points down, and gently tap on it near the socket on both sides. Probably won't work but worth a try. The cylinder is going to want to stay in there. If it didn't it would make connection when it was plugged in. Do you suppose I might have had a reason for saying "Probably won't work" ? -- Wes Groleau In any formula, constants (especially those obtained from handbooks) are to be treated as variables. |
How to remove a circle from a circle
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:28:41 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote: On 01-11-2013 15:54, wrote: wrote: On 01-10-2013 23:55, wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:25:06 -0500, Metspitzer The outside circle has to be undamaged. The outside circle being the laptop itself. Sure. Just get a drill *slightly* larger than the central hole. It should jam in there pretty well. The power supply plug has popped off into the laptop. I need to get the old part out before I can re plug the new power supply. The plug is a hollow cylinder. A drill will not bind in it, it will just make the cylinder spin. Furthermore, penetration of a drill bit any significant distance into the socket will damage the center pin of the socket. Sure it will. You've never had a drill bit catch when drilling a larger hole? Just don't spin the drill fast enough to drill a hole. Try to get it to snag on the sides. A little cockeyed will do it. Of course I've had a drill bit bind when drilling into something that tries to hold still. Never when drilling into something that weighs half a gram and spins freely. If it "spins freely" it's not going to drill through it. boggle Just get it jammed in there. Should be trivial. I would first try holding the laptop so that the socket points down, and gently tap on it near the socket on both sides. Probably won't work but worth a try. The cylinder is going to want to stay in there. If it didn't it would make connection when it was plugged in. Do you suppose I might have had a reason for saying "Probably won't work" ? Why even suggest it? |
How to remove a circle from a circle
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How to remove a circle from a circle
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:15:36 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote: On 01-12-2013 23:42, wrote: Do you suppose I might have had a reason for saying "Probably won't work" ? Why even suggest it? When something _probably_ won't work, there is a possibility that it will. When it is super easy to do, why not try it before something much more difficult? When it is a 1000$ paperweight, it is worth a try. :) |
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