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An opinion on gun control
wrote in message ... On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:42:17 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:32:20 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message m... On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:34:07 -0800, Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:16:50 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: A .380 in the pocket is better than a .380 in the truck. Love my little KelTec 3AT. Small enough to carry in any pocket, and not arouse any suspicion whatsoever. It does poke small holes vs. 45 cal, and all that nonsense, but just a couple of days ago, a PO was killed by a .380. I'll take my chances when I take my wimpy little pistol. And when I want more confidence, I just put on my .357 on a Safariland paddle. The muzzle blast from that one is enough to stop every person in the room, and that is 360 degrees from direction of muzzle. Kinda like a stun grenade in an enclosed room. Don't know, I never had the balls to try it in a closed room. Might blow the glass out. Steve I've said before, my .357 "barks over here and bites over yonder." The nice thing about a .357 is that you can feed it .38 which is a lot easier on the ears and wallet. The downside of mine is that it's way too big to conceal (6" barrel), though that's not why I bought it. Come to think of it, I didn't. My wife bought it for me. ;-) I have a 2" Colt Lawman MkIII http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=638433 I use .38Special +P defense ammo in it It's my car gun with a couple of Bianchi strippers I've only started carrying, and not always. I bought a Walther PPK (.380) as a pocket pistol at the last gun show I attended. Before that, all my guns were just too big to conceal (I don't wear a jacket). They were bought for targets, anyway. The next will be a 1911 (probably a Springfield Arms), as soon as I can get rid of a financial boat anchor (house). Look into the Taurus 1911 It's loaded with all kind of features that are not available on other 1911s for the same price. I haven't looked specifically at their 1911, but all the Taurus products I've looked at just seem "cheap", in one way or another. It lots of good reviews when it came out. And I know a couple of people with one, and they seem quite happy with them |
An opinion on gun control
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:52:41 -0600, Doug
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:37:03 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:09:15 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:02:57 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:42:17 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message om... On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:32:20 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message news:jnpmd8lgbicpemagseujpvik9t5anb745p@4ax .com... On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:34:07 -0800, Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:16:50 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: A .380 in the pocket is better than a .380 in the truck. Love my little KelTec 3AT. Small enough to carry in any pocket, and not arouse any suspicion whatsoever. It does poke small holes vs. 45 cal, and all that nonsense, but just a couple of days ago, a PO was killed by a .380. I'll take my chances when I take my wimpy little pistol. And when I want more confidence, I just put on my .357 on a Safariland paddle. The muzzle blast from that one is enough to stop every person in the room, and that is 360 degrees from direction of muzzle. Kinda like a stun grenade in an enclosed room. Don't know, I never had the balls to try it in a closed room. Might blow the glass out. Steve I've said before, my .357 "barks over here and bites over yonder." The nice thing about a .357 is that you can feed it .38 which is a lot easier on the ears and wallet. The downside of mine is that it's way too big to conceal (6" barrel), though that's not why I bought it. Come to think of it, I didn't. My wife bought it for me. ;-) I have a 2" Colt Lawman MkIII http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=638433 I use .38Special +P defense ammo in it It's my car gun with a couple of Bianchi strippers I've only started carrying, and not always. I bought a Walther PPK (.380) as a pocket pistol at the last gun show I attended. Before that, all my guns were just too big to conceal (I don't wear a jacket). They were bought for targets, anyway. The next will be a 1911 (probably a Springfield Arms), as soon as I can get rid of a financial boat anchor (house). Look into the Taurus 1911 It's loaded with all kind of features that are not available on other 1911s for the same price. I haven't looked specifically at their 1911, but all the Taurus products I've looked at just seem "cheap", in one way or another. Hell don't be so cheap. Buy the gun and don't worry about your mortgage payment. Then when they come looking for you, you can blow them away. Idiot, I can buy the gun I want with what's in my wallet (around $1000). There is a reason that I can afford the mortgage on two fairly large (idiots like you would probably call them McMansions) houses, though. I'm conservative with my money as well as (try to) with others. WOW, I'm impressed .... LOL. You probably are. That's how sad you are, kid. |
An opinion on gun control
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:08:55 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:48:55 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:34:40 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:06:37 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:01:28 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:25:27 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:21:32 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:cdc6e8pm7qvc37hnbs9461sd0ngshii8d6@4ax .com... On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:49:40 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:li1hd8pvsuu7o6jl9r7c066rve514icnlm@4 ax.com... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 23:37:10 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:at6fd81p7bjm34afm92siidneahpg2nrig @4ax.com... I think teachers should just teach. I think armed guards (professionals) will be better at protecting the students. I'm not saying that armed teachers can't protect students but I see potential problems with this idea. Go ahead and list them If you can't figure out what they are, I give up. I honestly thought it was intuitive. What you are really saying is that you can NOT list them to support your argument In an intelligent debate, the debaters LIST their arguments instead of expecting others to "intuit" them But considering your past performance and all the silly things you assumed to be true, yet were patently false, that comes as NO surprise YOU definitely are one of those that Ronald Reagan meant in: "It's not that our friends on the Left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong.." Wrong according to whom ? Please give me the authoritative source. I'm still waiting for you to list the reasons for teachers not to be armed You first alphonse You already know the answer !! Yes, we do; you're stupid. LOL You can laugh at your stupidity (the insane often do). The rest of us think it's pretty sad. I'm beginning to understand how you think "in your world". No, Douggie, you're simply clueless. You wouldn't recognize a hint if it jumped your ass and raped you. Anyone who refers to the CDC for information on the Constitution isn't at all bright. Actually it was one of your friends that first referenced it so I made reference to it thereafter. I did find better sites after but I'm not going to list them. Of course you know more than all those sites put together in "your world" . |
An opinion on gun control
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:09:47 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:52:41 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:37:03 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:09:15 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:02:57 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:42:17 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message news:ltf6e8pplqv3acb7mf0hu6495rvlqr3qo2@4ax. com... On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:32:20 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message news:jnpmd8lgbicpemagseujpvik9t5anb745p@4a x.com... On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:34:07 -0800, Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:16:50 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: A .380 in the pocket is better than a .380 in the truck. Love my little KelTec 3AT. Small enough to carry in any pocket, and not arouse any suspicion whatsoever. It does poke small holes vs. 45 cal, and all that nonsense, but just a couple of days ago, a PO was killed by a .380. I'll take my chances when I take my wimpy little pistol. And when I want more confidence, I just put on my .357 on a Safariland paddle. The muzzle blast from that one is enough to stop every person in the room, and that is 360 degrees from direction of muzzle. Kinda like a stun grenade in an enclosed room. Don't know, I never had the balls to try it in a closed room. Might blow the glass out. Steve I've said before, my .357 "barks over here and bites over yonder." The nice thing about a .357 is that you can feed it .38 which is a lot easier on the ears and wallet. The downside of mine is that it's way too big to conceal (6" barrel), though that's not why I bought it. Come to think of it, I didn't. My wife bought it for me. ;-) I have a 2" Colt Lawman MkIII http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=638433 I use .38Special +P defense ammo in it It's my car gun with a couple of Bianchi strippers I've only started carrying, and not always. I bought a Walther PPK (.380) as a pocket pistol at the last gun show I attended. Before that, all my guns were just too big to conceal (I don't wear a jacket). They were bought for targets, anyway. The next will be a 1911 (probably a Springfield Arms), as soon as I can get rid of a financial boat anchor (house). Look into the Taurus 1911 It's loaded with all kind of features that are not available on other 1911s for the same price. I haven't looked specifically at their 1911, but all the Taurus products I've looked at just seem "cheap", in one way or another. Hell don't be so cheap. Buy the gun and don't worry about your mortgage payment. Then when they come looking for you, you can blow them away. Idiot, I can buy the gun I want with what's in my wallet (around $1000). There is a reason that I can afford the mortgage on two fairly large (idiots like you would probably call them McMansions) houses, though. I'm conservative with my money as well as (try to) with others. WOW, I'm impressed .... LOL. You probably are. That's how sad you are, kid. Stupid fool, I was using sarcasm. |
An opinion on gun control
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:31:16 -0600, Doug
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:08:55 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:48:55 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:34:40 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:06:37 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:01:28 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:25:27 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:21:32 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:cdc6e8pm7qvc37hnbs9461sd0ngshii8d6@4a x.com... On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:49:40 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:li1hd8pvsuu7o6jl9r7c066rve514icnlm@ 4ax.com... On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 23:37:10 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message news:at6fd81p7bjm34afm92siidneahpg2nri ... I think teachers should just teach. I think armed guards (professionals) will be better at protecting the students. I'm not saying that armed teachers can't protect students but I see potential problems with this idea. Go ahead and list them If you can't figure out what they are, I give up. I honestly thought it was intuitive. What you are really saying is that you can NOT list them to support your argument In an intelligent debate, the debaters LIST their arguments instead of expecting others to "intuit" them But considering your past performance and all the silly things you assumed to be true, yet were patently false, that comes as NO surprise YOU definitely are one of those that Ronald Reagan meant in: "It's not that our friends on the Left are ignorant.. It's just that so much of what they know is wrong.." Wrong according to whom ? Please give me the authoritative source. I'm still waiting for you to list the reasons for teachers not to be armed You first alphonse You already know the answer !! Yes, we do; you're stupid. LOL You can laugh at your stupidity (the insane often do). The rest of us think it's pretty sad. I'm beginning to understand how you think "in your world". No, Douggie, you're simply clueless. You wouldn't recognize a hint if it jumped your ass and raped you. Anyone who refers to the CDC for information on the Constitution isn't at all bright. Actually it was one of your friends that first referenced it so I made reference to it thereafter. I did find better sites after but I'm not going to list them. Of course you know more than all those sites put together in "your world" . Idiot. *YOU* are the one who used it as a reference for the Constitutional issues involved. Now you're saying that you didn't even read your reference. Amazing. Well, no, not really, given the intelligence and honesty you've demonstrated here. |
An opinion on gun control
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:55:24 -0600, Doug
wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:09:47 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:52:41 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:37:03 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:09:15 -0600, Doug wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:02:57 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:42:17 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message news:ltf6e8pplqv3acb7mf0hu6495rvlqr3qo2@4ax .com... On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 10:32:20 -0600, " Attila Iskander" wrote: wrote in message news:jnpmd8lgbicpemagseujpvik9t5anb745p@4 ax.com... On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:34:07 -0800, Oren wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:16:50 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: A .380 in the pocket is better than a .380 in the truck. Love my little KelTec 3AT. Small enough to carry in any pocket, and not arouse any suspicion whatsoever. It does poke small holes vs. 45 cal, and all that nonsense, but just a couple of days ago, a PO was killed by a .380. I'll take my chances when I take my wimpy little pistol. And when I want more confidence, I just put on my .357 on a Safariland paddle. The muzzle blast from that one is enough to stop every person in the room, and that is 360 degrees from direction of muzzle. Kinda like a stun grenade in an enclosed room. Don't know, I never had the balls to try it in a closed room. Might blow the glass out. Steve I've said before, my .357 "barks over here and bites over yonder." The nice thing about a .357 is that you can feed it .38 which is a lot easier on the ears and wallet. The downside of mine is that it's way too big to conceal (6" barrel), though that's not why I bought it. Come to think of it, I didn't. My wife bought it for me. ;-) I have a 2" Colt Lawman MkIII http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=638433 I use .38Special +P defense ammo in it It's my car gun with a couple of Bianchi strippers I've only started carrying, and not always. I bought a Walther PPK (.380) as a pocket pistol at the last gun show I attended. Before that, all my guns were just too big to conceal (I don't wear a jacket). They were bought for targets, anyway. The next will be a 1911 (probably a Springfield Arms), as soon as I can get rid of a financial boat anchor (house). Look into the Taurus 1911 It's loaded with all kind of features that are not available on other 1911s for the same price. I haven't looked specifically at their 1911, but all the Taurus products I've looked at just seem "cheap", in one way or another. Hell don't be so cheap. Buy the gun and don't worry about your mortgage payment. Then when they come looking for you, you can blow them away. Idiot, I can buy the gun I want with what's in my wallet (around $1000). There is a reason that I can afford the mortgage on two fairly large (idiots like you would probably call them McMansions) houses, though. I'm conservative with my money as well as (try to) with others. WOW, I'm impressed .... LOL. You probably are. That's how sad you are, kid. Stupid fool, I was using sarcasm. The fact that you think you are is even more sad. You really are a moron. It's a wonder you can breathe. |
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An opinion on gun control
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:20:21 +0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
wrote: wrote in : Oh, will you give it a rest already, Keith? Sheesh. Stop chasing gun grabbers? I don't think so! |
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An opinion on gun control
On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:10:20 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I was reading this today. A Glock 19 might fit your needs. I already looked into a Sig Sauer. Both are 9mm. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/03/Two-Handguns-Perfect-For-Plinking-And-Self-Defense So many choices, sigh. |
An opinion on gun control
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o I know what you mean. I got a really good deal on a Nickel S&W 29. One of those that if you don't jump on it, you will have recurrent nightmare of kicking yourself for at least the next year. Standard grip is a pain to hold, and the gun wants to rotate in your fist every time it's fired. I'm torn between keeping it unfired or spending a bit of money to find a better grip for it, and then risking that my hands are too old to handle it. |
An opinion on gun control
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:10:20 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o I found just the opposite. IMO, short barrel guns kick more, though I admit that I haven't done a double-blind test. My 6", S&W 686 isn't bad at all, except the blast from around the cylinder is a bit off-putting at first. It doesn't kick much at all, though. |
An opinion on gun control
On 1/5/2013 2:53 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:10:20 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I was reading this today. A Glock 19 might fit your needs. I already looked into a Sig Sauer. Both are 9mm. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/03/Two-Handguns-Perfect-For-Plinking-And-Self-Defense So many choices, sigh. I did find a pistol that fit my hand but it was a Desert Eagle .50cal. ^_^ TDD |
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An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:55:46 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I was reading this today. A Glock 19 might fit your needs. I already looked into a Sig Sauer. Both are 9mm. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/03/Two-Handguns-Perfect-For-Plinking-And-Self-Defense So many choices, sigh. I did find a pistol that fit my hand but it was a Desert Eagle .50cal. ^_^ TDD Well then, you only need to fire it ONCE. :-\ |
An opinion on gun control
On 1/6/2013 2:02 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:55:46 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I was reading this today. A Glock 19 might fit your needs. I already looked into a Sig Sauer. Both are 9mm. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/03/Two-Handguns-Perfect-For-Plinking-And-Self-Defense So many choices, sigh. I did find a pistol that fit my hand but it was a Desert Eagle .50cal. ^_^ TDD Well then, you only need to fire it ONCE. :-\ Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder I saw that on the local news. Too bad she didn't have something bigger than a .38. Five hits to the head and he's still breathing. A ..357 would have saved some tax dollars and probably not messed up any more carpeting. Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 “The guy’s face down, crying,” the sheriff said. The woman told him to stay down or she’d shoot again. That's not a very Democratic thing to say. SHE is what we need for gun control. ...done good! |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:39:22 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. Obviously five wasn't enough (though five for six isn't bad shootin'). It's also a good argument for "high capacity" magazines. Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:59:25 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:46:18 -0500, wrote: I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o I found just the opposite. IMO, short barrel guns kick more, though I admit that I haven't done a double-blind test. My 6", S&W 686 isn't bad at all, except the blast from around the cylinder is a bit off-putting at first. It doesn't kick much at all, though. I put Pachmayr grips on my S&W 686 .357 Magnum (4" barrel). My 686 came with them. The original grips were like holding a limp noodle. Much better since day one, by changing grips. Maybe that's the reason I don't have any real problems with mine. |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:07:51 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:39:22 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. Obviously five wasn't enough (though five for six isn't bad shootin'). It's also a good argument for "high capacity" magazines. I had a guy once (long story) that had five bullet holes in his chest (near center of mass) and lived to admire his wounds. Maybe 3 rounds were from .357. A real shoot out in Miami... It was FBI, DEA, ATF, DUSM against Columbians in a roach motel. One DEA agent died, if I recall. Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 |
An opinion on gun control
The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I used to shoot an old .38 short pistol. All the shells cracked open. Was it a larger bore ? Don't have it anymore. Me and dad ended up turning it in, along with a .32 police special, both worn out. Greg |
An opinion on gun control
On 1/6/2013 3:22 PM, CRNG wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06...#ixzz2HEToY0x3 My big old friendly dog tried to say hello to a mama cat and her kittens....... once. ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On 1/6/2013 4:39 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. OH MY GOD! SHE HAD A GUN AROUND THOSE CHILDREN! WHAT A TERRIBLE MOTHER! My imitation of the reaction from a drooling P.L.L.C.F. female. ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
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An opinion on gun control
On 1/6/2013 7:05 PM, gregz wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: On 1/1/2013 10:22 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/24/2012 12:05 AM, Attila Iskander wrote: "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 12/23/2012 7:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:09:14 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:34:44 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: Pennsylvania might need to consider banning "high capacity assault shovels". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252172/Woman-charged-threatening-kill-elementary-school-children-bus-stop-shovel.html I darn near killed a burglar with my bare hands, should we have fist control laws? O_o TDD Can't you register your hands as deadly weapons? And buy insurance on them? Most lawyers would advise that a legal holder of a gun would be in less trouble for shooting someone than a guy who beat someone to death. When I catch someone in my place and that miscreant throws a brick at my face, no jury would convict me of murder for beating the gremlin to death. ^_^ That sounds like a lot of work. A couple of bullets to the head is far quicker and more humane. I haven't owned a gun in years, I wish I hadn't sold my Browning Hi-Power. I'm in the market for a good 380 pistol now, double tap to the mouth will stop anything. ^_^ The CZ82-83 are very solid I have a collection of Makarovs, that can be converted down to .380 But I prefer to stick with the 9mm Makarov round, which is more potent and can actually be loaded up quite a bit. You just need a heavier recoil spring is all. I think the most powerful pistol I ever fired was a long barrel .41 magnum. With my hands becoming more arthritic I don't know if I could hold onto a big kicker which is why I thought a .380 pistol would be easier on my hands. O_o TDD I used to shoot an old .38 short pistol. All the shells cracked open. Was it a larger bore ? Don't have it anymore. Me and dad ended up turning it in, along with a .32 police special, both worn out. Greg It was as long or longer than Dirty Harry's .44 AutoMag. I seem to remember it being a S&W Model 657 .41 Magnum 8+3/8" barrel. It was a long pistol. ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:37:14 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 1/6/2013 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:39:22 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. Obviously five wasn't enough (though five for six isn't bad shootin'). It's also a good argument for "high capacity" magazines. Little gals have a problem handling big artillery but they're often better shots. I imagine that wonderful mother will be looking into something more lethal either weapon or ammunition wise. I imagine her next Mother's Day or birthday gift will be very interesting. ^_^ Yeah, the nightstand and pocket guns have some nasty ammunition in them. They won't poke much of a hole without it. I'd be buying her an arsenal (and laminating the AJC article to the front door - leave the crowbar marks). |
An opinion on gun control
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:32:03 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 1/6/2013 4:39 PM, Oren wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. OH MY GOD! SHE HAD A GUN AROUND THOSE CHILDREN! WHAT A TERRIBLE MOTHER! I bet the poor darlings' ears were ringing. My imitation of the reaction from a drooling P.L.L.C.F. female. ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On 1/6/2013 8:07 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 19:37:14 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 1/6/2013 5:07 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:39:22 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:22:35 -0600, CRNG wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:57:52 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote in Re An opinion on gun control: Hell, all you have to do with that piece of artillery is to let the dobad see it and they run. ^_^ Here's a guy who should have run sooner. Where was he supposed to run? To a parole officer? Georgia mom home alone with kids shoots ex-con intruder She did it for the children. And I support her right to do it, as many times as necessary. Obviously five wasn't enough (though five for six isn't bad shootin'). It's also a good argument for "high capacity" magazines. Little gals have a problem handling big artillery but they're often better shots. I imagine that wonderful mother will be looking into something more lethal either weapon or ammunition wise. I imagine her next Mother's Day or birthday gift will be very interesting. ^_^ Yeah, the nightstand and pocket guns have some nasty ammunition in them. They won't poke much of a hole without it. I'd be buying her an arsenal (and laminating the AJC article to the front door - leave the crowbar marks). Big sign on the front door: BEWARE OF MOM ^_^ TDD |
An opinion on gun control
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:53:58 -0500, "Robert Green"
wrote: "Tony Hwang" wrote in message Are you really this ****ing stupid ? Empty cart rattles most!!! I like that saying so much I had to look it up: Bin surega yoranhada (? ??? ????). - An empty cart rattles loudly. In Texish that would be "All hat and no cattle." In my 55 years driving, I never had road accident. i handled so many different weapons light and heavy in the service. Trained as sniper, sharp shooter in boot camp. Never missed assigned target, never had fire arm accident. Somehow the pro-gunners can't quite believe anyone could be experienced and proficient with firearms and choose not to have one in the home. At least I think that's what the rude phrase I quoted above means. (-: But it's not stupid to not want a gun in the home. Neutral statistics compiled by pediatricians pretty much prove a gun in the home is more likely to injure the occupants than the intruder. Good Lord. You're getting dumber every day. I don't give a crap if someone breaks into your house and kills your wife and kid. Self defense is your choice. Don't take mine away from me. "For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides." (Kellerman, Rivara, Somes, Lee and Banton, 1998) A bald faced lie. idiotic drivel deleted |
An opinion on gun control
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:53:58 -0500, "Robert Green"
wrote: Somehow the pro-gunners can't quite believe anyone could be experienced and proficient with firearms and choose not to have one in the home. Nonsense. No person here has advocated such. Don't want a gun, fine, don't have one. As for me, I still have a right to be left alone. Don't ****ing try to take my guns from me. DOJ Report: "...The study shows a heavy drop—a full 95%—in gun-related violence toward youth from 1994 to 2010. Moreover, the study shows that "serious crimes against youth perpetrated at schools dropped 62%" over this same period of time." http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/12/Report-Youth-Six-Times-More-Likely-Attacked-With-Knife-Than-Gun damn gun grabbers |
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