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"No one that has ever quit from the company ever got benefits."



Are *not* statements limited to personal experience. They are rather
generalized to the entire universe.


"THE" refers to one company. Sorry about your reading comprehension.
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:52:33 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:57:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:



"No one that has ever quit from the company ever got benefits."



Are *not* statements limited to personal experience. They are rather
generalized to the entire universe.


"THE" refers to one company. Sorry about your reading comprehension.


It's amazing that you believed that your very limited experience had any
relevance to the rest of the world around you.
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It's amazing that you believed that your very limited experience had any
relevance to the rest of the world around you.


The laws that apply to my company apply to everyone in the states that
I'm familiar with. Probably others.
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:31:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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It's amazing that you believed that your very limited experience had any
relevance to the rest of the world around you.


The laws that apply to my company apply to everyone in the states that
I'm familiar with. Probably others.


You are clearly clueless about the matter. It is quite possible to receive UI
insurance after being fired or even quitting. In fact, it's not rare at all.
It simply depends on the facts behind the separation.
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On Sep 5, 10:51*pm, "
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:31:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:32:10 -0400, "
wrote:


It's amazing that you believed that your very limited experience had any
relevance to the rest of the world around you.


The laws that apply to my company apply to everyone in the states that
I'm familiar with. *Probably others.


You are clearly clueless about the matter. *It is quite possible to receive UI
insurance after being fired or even quitting. *In fact, it's not rare at all.
It simply depends on the facts behind the separation.


It may not be rare, but it's not the typical or common case. If you
just get ****ed off or don't like your job and quit, absent coming up
with some bogus story, you don't get unemployment. And once the
story is vetted, very likely you're not getting it anyway. Most
people
who quit or are fired don't do so after a period of documented
sexual harrassment or labor law violation. They quit because they
don't like the job. Or the boss fires them with documented evidence
of them not showing up for work, being repeatedly warned, etc.



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On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Sep 5, 10:51*pm, "
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:31:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:32:10 -0400, "
wrote:


It's amazing that you believed that your very limited experience had any
relevance to the rest of the world around you.


The laws that apply to my company apply to everyone in the states that
I'm familiar with. *Probably others.


You are clearly clueless about the matter. *It is quite possible to receive UI
insurance after being fired or even quitting. *In fact, it's not rare at all.
It simply depends on the facts behind the separation.


It may not be rare, but it's not the typical or common case. If you
just get ****ed off or don't like your job and quit, absent coming up
with some bogus story, you don't get unemployment. And once the
story is vetted, very likely you're not getting it anyway. Most
people
who quit or are fired don't do so after a period of documented
sexual harrassment or labor law violation. They quit because they
don't like the job. Or the boss fires them with documented evidence
of them not showing up for work, being repeatedly warned, etc.


Strawmen are easy, huh?

The fact is that it's rather common for people to receive UI after being fired
or resigning. Again, it's all in the facts behind the case. For instance,
it's not unheard of, in "at will" states, for someone to be fired without
cause. It's also not uncommon for people to be fired for incompetence (after
clearly having been evidenced by the fact that they were in the job). Both
are eligible for UI. Basically, if someone is fired, or resigns, for reasons
beyond their control, they *are* eligible for UI.

Here is a site that has some discussion of this:
http://www.helium.com/items/313125-c...ired-in-the-us

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