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Lee August 22nd 12 06:03 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug into; the dishwasher worked fine. So, I replaced the outlet, clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. I tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. Now, it works, continuously; but the switch does not. So, I presume this means I need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?

Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.

Lee

Stormin Mormon[_7_] August 22nd 12 06:08 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
Are there two sets of Romex wires that feed the outlet?

If there is one set of power feed wire, maybe you ought not have "clipped
the joiner part".

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"Lee" wrote in message
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Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no power to
the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug into; the
dishwasher worked fine. So, I replaced the outlet, clipping the joiner-part
of the outlet, and still no power to the top-half of the outlet, so I
reversed the plugs and the dishwasher was still active, so that ruled out
the outlet as the problem. I tried the reset button on the disposal several
times in both halves of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the
problem was the garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. Now, it works,
continuously; but the switch does not. So, I presume this means I need to
also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should be
considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?

Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.

Lee



Steve Barker[_6_] August 22nd 12 07:14 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
On 8/22/2012 12:03 PM, Lee wrote:
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug into; the dishwasher worked fine. So, I replaced the outlet, clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. I tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. Now, it works, continuously; but the switch does not. So, I presume this means I need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?

Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.

Lee


sounds like you didn't wire the split outlet properly.


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DerbyDad03 August 22nd 12 07:25 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
On Aug 22, 1:03*pm, Lee wrote:
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug into; the dishwasher worked fine. *So, I replaced the outlet, clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. *I tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. *Now, it works, continuously; but the switch does not. *So, I presume this means I need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?

Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.

Lee


Wait a minute...you had no power at the top half of the outlet, yet
the DW worked when you "reversed" the plugs? Care to explain that?


HeyBub[_3_] August 22nd 12 08:09 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
Lee wrote:
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no
power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug
into; the dishwasher worked fine. So, I replaced the outlet,
clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the
top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher
was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. I
tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves
of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the
garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. Now, it works,
continuously; but the switch does not. So, I presume this means I
need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should
be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?

Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.


The switch is okay. The problem is in the wiring.



rlz August 23rd 12 02:58 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
On Aug 22, 1:09*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Lee wrote:
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no
power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug
into; the dishwasher worked fine. *So, I replaced the outlet,
clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the
top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher
was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. *I
tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves
of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the
garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. *Now, it works,
continuously; but the switch does not. *So, I presume this means I
need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should
be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?


Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.


The switch is okay. The problem is in the wiring.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Basically, the outlet is wired so that one half gets power from a
always-on circuit, while the orther half gets power from the switch,
which can be either on or off. This is why you need to clip the
joiner between the two halves.
You should have two wires (hot and neutral)going to each half. From
your description, it sounds like the switch may be bad, or the wiring
to/from the switch,

DerbyDad03 August 23rd 12 04:16 PM

Garbage Disposal Electrical Problem/Question
 
On Aug 23, 9:58*am, rlz wrote:
On Aug 22, 1:09*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:





Lee wrote:
Garbage disposer failed and original diagnosis (mine) revealed no
power to the top-half of outlet that both the GD and dishwasher plug
into; the dishwasher worked fine. *So, I replaced the outlet,
clipping the joiner-part of the outlet, and still no power to the
top-half of the outlet, so I reversed the plugs and the dishwasher
was still active, so that ruled out the outlet as the problem. *I
tried the reset button on the disposal several times in both halves
of the outlet and neither worked, so I concluded the problem was the
garbage disposer itself, so replaced it. *Now, it works,
continuously; but the switch does not. *So, I presume this means I
need to also replace the switch, but is there anything else I should
be considering/looking at before proceeding to this step?


Thanks for any suggestions/comments you’d care to make.


The switch is okay. The problem is in the wiring.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Basically, the outlet is wired so that one half gets power from a
always-on circuit, while the orther half gets power from the switch,
which can be either on or off. *This is why you need to clip the
joiner between the two halves.
You should have two wires (hot and neutral)going to each half. *From
your description, it sounds like the switch may be bad, or the wiring
to/from the switch,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If the switch or wiring to/from the switch is bad, why did the DW work
when he "reversed" the plugs?

I'd like to hear from the OP as to what he means by "so I reversed the
plugs and the dishwasher was still active."

I'm assuming he plugged the DW into the upper receptacle and it
worked. However, he said also said he replaced the receptacle "and
still no power to the top-half of the outlet" If that's the case, how
did the DW work after he "reversed the plugs"?

Perhaps he tested the receptacle with the switch off, but turned it on
before he ran the DW.

That's where the post gets confusing. It's all based on the meaning of
"I reversed the plugs".


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