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DerbyDad03 August 12th 12 02:19 AM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1

Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the other,
with no problems today.

The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts itself
down, here's what happens:

With the timer control set to any of the heat cycles, (high heat auto, low
heat auto or timed dry) I can hear a relay or solenoid actuate and i can
hear a hum from the unit while I hold the switch in, but the motor doesn't
start turning.

With the control set to the Air Fluff Only setting, there is no relay sound
or humming, just a whole bunch of silence.

I did one more test: when the dryer was running properly and in the Cool
Down period of High Heat Auto, I turned the timer control back into the
area where the heat would be on. When I did this I heard the same relay
sound that I hear when Start button is pressed but the unit doesn't start.
A few seconds later I could hear the gas turn on.

I believe that there is a pair of solenoids for the gas valve. Is it
possible that the noise I'm hearing is one solenoid activating but the
other one hanging up and humming? But if that were the case, why wouldn't
the motor start, especially in Air Fluff Only mode?

Darn, thought I figured it out while I was typing this, but now I'm not so
sure.

Any idea what to look for? Thanks!

Domicile Dude August 12th 12 02:58 AM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 
On 8/11/2012 9:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1

Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the other,
with no problems today.

The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts itself
down, here's what happens:


Maybe blocked airflow? Check the complete dryer vent exhaust system for
lint build-up.


[email protected] August 12th 12 06:20 AM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:19:46 PM UTC-7, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1



Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the other,

with no problems today.



The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying cycle

is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down

and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with no

problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts itself

down, here's what happens:



With the timer control set to any of the heat cycles, (high heat auto, low

heat auto or timed dry) I can hear a relay or solenoid actuate and i can

hear a hum from the unit while I hold the switch in, but the motor doesn't

start turning.



With the control set to the Air Fluff Only setting, there is no relay sound

or humming, just a whole bunch of silence.



I did one more test: when the dryer was running properly and in the Cool

Down period of High Heat Auto, I turned the timer control back into the

area where the heat would be on. When I did this I heard the same relay

sound that I hear when Start button is pressed but the unit doesn't start..

A few seconds later I could hear the gas turn on.



I believe that there is a pair of solenoids for the gas valve. Is it

possible that the noise I'm hearing is one solenoid activating but the

other one hanging up and humming? But if that were the case, why wouldn't

the motor start, especially in Air Fluff Only mode?



Darn, thought I figured it out while I was typing this, but now I'm not so

sure.



Any idea what to look for? Thanks!


First thing I would check:

Get your voltage tester, pull the plug of the dryer out from the receptacle just enough so that you can get the voltage tester electrodes on to the blades of the plug. Turn on the dryer and see what voltage you’re getting while the dryer is running. The voltage that you’re getting at the receptacle may sometimes be too low and causing the motor to overheat and shut-down. Are you having brown-outs where you are?
Other things that can cause a motor to overheat are the drum binding or sticking, overloading the dryer, bearing on the motor being worn-out etc.

harryagain August 12th 12 07:48 AM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1

Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the other,
with no problems today.

The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying
cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts itself
down, here's what happens:

With the timer control set to any of the heat cycles, (high heat auto, low
heat auto or timed dry) I can hear a relay or solenoid actuate and i can
hear a hum from the unit while I hold the switch in, but the motor doesn't
start turning.

With the control set to the Air Fluff Only setting, there is no relay
sound
or humming, just a whole bunch of silence.

I did one more test: when the dryer was running properly and in the Cool
Down period of High Heat Auto, I turned the timer control back into the
area where the heat would be on. When I did this I heard the same relay
sound that I hear when Start button is pressed but the unit doesn't start.
A few seconds later I could hear the gas turn on.

I believe that there is a pair of solenoids for the gas valve. Is it
possible that the noise I'm hearing is one solenoid activating but the
other one hanging up and humming? But if that were the case, why wouldn't
the motor start, especially in Air Fluff Only mode?

Darn, thought I figured it out while I was typing this, but now I'm not so
sure.

Any idea what to look for? Thanks!

Sounds like there is an overheat cutout.
Maybe it's overheating or maybe the cutout itself is faulty.

Is there a filter that may be blocked causing overheat



DerbyDad03 August 12th 12 09:04 PM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 
Domicile Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2012 9:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1

Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the other,
with no problems today.

The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts itself
down, here's what happens:


Maybe blocked airflow? Check the complete dryer vent exhaust system for lint build-up.


I just finished cleaning the entire exhaust system - interior ducting,
exhaust hose and exterior vent.

As expected, there was lint in every place I checked/cleaned, but there
didn't seem to be enough for a blockage. In any case, the air flow should
be better than before.

Since the problem was very intermittent, I'll just have to wait and see.

WW[_2_] August 13th 12 02:52 PM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Domicile Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2012 9:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1

Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the
other,
with no problems today.

The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying
cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with
no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts
itself
down, here's what happens:


Maybe blocked airflow? Check the complete dryer vent exhaust system for
lint build-up.


I just finished cleaning the entire exhaust system - interior ducting,
exhaust hose and exterior vent.

As expected, there was lint in every place I checked/cleaned, but there
didn't seem to be enough for a blockage. In any case, the air flow should
be better than before.

Since the problem was very intermittent, I'll just have to wait and see.

Sounds like the motor overload (due to heat) Klixon is tripping. This takes
time to reset as the motor must cool. Did you take air pressure to clean the
motor. That solves problem some times. Retired appliance serviceman. WW


DerbyDad03 August 13th 12 03:51 PM

Estate Gas Dryer - Intermittently Stops, Then Won't Start
 
On Aug 13, 9:52*am, "WW" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" *wrote in message

...





Domicile Dude wrote:
On 8/11/2012 9:19 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Estate Gas Dryer by Whirlpool, Model TGDS740PQ1


Dryer runs fine 95% of the time. Dried 6 loads, one right after the
other,
with no problems today.


The problem is that on rare occasions, it will stop before the drying
cycle
is over and I can't restart it right away. If I wait until it cools down
and press the Start button it will start up and complete the cycle with
no
problems. However, if I press the Start button right after it shuts
itself
down, here's what happens:


Maybe blocked airflow? Check the complete dryer vent exhaust system for
lint build-up.


I just finished cleaning the entire exhaust system - interior ducting,
exhaust hose and exterior vent.

As expected, there was lint in every place I checked/cleaned, but there
didn't seem to be enough for a blockage. In any case, the air flow should
be better than before.

Since the problem was very intermittent, I'll just have to wait and see.


Sounds like the motor overload (due to heat) *Klixon is tripping. This takes
time to reset as the motor must cool. Did you take air pressure to clean the
motor. That solves problem some times. Retired appliance serviceman. WW- Hide quoted text -

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I did not clean the motor itself, but I cleaned the entire exhaust
system, even removing the internal ducting to get to the blower fins.

I'm assuming the clumps of lint that I found on the blower fins were
the result of laying the unit face down and having debris fall out of
the internal duct. The clumps weren't stuck to the fins, just lying on
top of them.

If the shutdown problem occurs again, I'll attack the motor next.

Thanks for the suggestion.


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