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Jules Richardson May 16th 12 02:56 PM

mower engine blowout again
 

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules

Stormin Mormon[_7_] May 16th 12 03:44 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
Bother, that looks like a total catastrophic failure.

Closest I've had, was a generator that threw a rod.
But, mine was enought to result in some very
out of character crude language, as I realized my
mistake. Oh, well.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Jules Richardson" wrote in message
...

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules



Jon Danniken[_6_] May 16th 12 04:10 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
Jules Richardson wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights
(with a bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside
the crankcase)


Just wrap some duct tape around it, you'll be fine.

Jon



Oren[_2_] May 16th 12 05:27 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:10:01 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

Jules Richardson wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights
(with a bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside
the crankcase)


Just wrap some duct tape around it, you'll be fine.

Jon


I was thinking it could be used as a boat anchor.

Oren[_2_] May 16th 12 05:44 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:56:44 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson
wrote:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)


If the rod cap on the crank journal gave way ("things bouncing around
inside") you have crank damage from the rod, so to speak...

Steve Barker[_6_] May 16th 12 07:30 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On 5/16/2012 8:56 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules



nice. it's not your daddys briggs anymore.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Fat-Dumb and Happy May 16th 12 08:43 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
Jules Richardson wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules


Be sure to salvage that air cleaner screw and spacer....

so[_2_] May 16th 12 08:44 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On May 16, 6:56*am, Jules Richardson
wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

*http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules


I've heard JB Weld can work wonders.

[email protected] May 16th 12 08:47 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:30:36 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 5/16/2012 8:56 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules



nice. it's not your daddys briggs anymore.


I noticed that the old Briggs push mowers with 2 to 5 HP engines will
last forever, even if they are not kept up properly, but the larger
Briggs engines are notorious for blowing rods, no matter how well you
care for them. Of course that includes all the lawn tractors because
they all have at least 8hp engines, often up to 20hp.



gregz May 17th 12 01:15 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
"Jon Danniken" wrote:
Jules Richardson wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights
(with a bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside
the crankcase)


Just wrap some duct tape around it, you'll be fine.

Jon


Duct tape and wd-40 .

Greg

RonB[_2_] May 17th 12 01:20 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On May 16, 8:56*am, Jules Richardson
wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

*http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules


UUuuuuhhhh. Which part of that is collateral damage?

Jules Richardson May 17th 12 01:26 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:43:49 -0500, Fat-Dumb and Happy wrote:
Be sure to salvage that air cleaner screw and spacer....


Good, isn't it? :-) The original screw sheared, and that was a quick fix
using the only thing I had in the junk box with the right threads; I
figured I'd find a replacement later, which was two years ago now.

RonB[_2_] May 17th 12 01:41 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On May 16, 7:26*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:43:49 -0500, Fat-Dumb and Happy wrote:
* Be sure to salvage that air cleaner screw and spacer....


Good, isn't it? :-) *The original screw sheared, and that was a quick fix
using the only thing I had in the junk box with the right threads; I
figured I'd find a replacement later, which was two years ago now.


If you stuck a rope in the spark plug hole and back out the.....
well, ..... that other hole, it might make a pretty good boat anchor.

RonB

[email protected] May 17th 12 03:27 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 14:47:26 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:30:36 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 5/16/2012 8:56 AM, Jules Richardson wrote:

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules



nice. it's not your daddys briggs anymore.


I noticed that the old Briggs push mowers with 2 to 5 HP engines will
last forever, even if they are not kept up properly, but the larger
Briggs engines are notorious for blowing rods, no matter how well you
care for them. Of course that includes all the lawn tractors because
they all have at least 8hp engines, often up to 20hp.

Larger (just bought a 24).

Stormin Mormon[_7_] May 17th 12 04:03 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
Naah, it's got to be gorilla tape.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"gregz" wrote in message
...
http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights
(with a bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside
the crankcase)


Just wrap some duct tape around it, you'll be fine.

Jon


Duct tape and wd-40 .

Greg



[email protected] May 17th 12 04:54 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:44:12 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:56:44 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson
wrote:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)


If the rod cap on the crank journal gave way ("things bouncing around
inside") you have crank damage from the rod, so to speak...

LLOKS like the rod and cap are still intact???

Oren[_2_] May 17th 12 05:24 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 23:54:14 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:44:12 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:56:44 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson
wrote:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)


If the rod cap on the crank journal gave way ("things bouncing around
inside") you have crank damage from the rod, so to speak...

LLOKS like the rod and cap are still intact???


I see one bolt :-\

EXT May 17th 12 10:30 PM

mower engine blowout again
 

"Jules Richardson" wrote in message
...

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)


Yeah, they keep running forever, until they stop.


Jules Richardson May 23rd 12 04:27 AM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:56:44 +0000, Jules Richardson wrote:

Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg


I thought I'd follow up on this, having torn it all down. The root
failure seems to be the hole for the oil slinger bracket wearing and
elongating - that meant the oil slinger teeth were no longer meshing with
the drive gear properly. The fragments of the top support and bearing for
the synchro balance weights show signs of major overheat, presumably due
to oil starvation. One that support failed, the lower support couldn't
handle the load by itself and quickly failed too - this left the weights
flapping around, and which point the crank collided with them and threw
them out of the engine...

cheers

Jules

[email protected] July 11th 12 01:39 PM

mower engine blowout again
 
On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:56:44 PM UTC+2, Jules Richardson wrote:
Must be something in the air... following the 'mower engine blowout'
thread a few weeks ago, my trusty ol' mid-'80s B&S lawn tractor engine
decided to call it quits yesterday:

http://www.patooie.com/temp/eng.jpg

Upon initial inspection the valvegear and crank seem to have escaped
damage, so I think the failure was limited to the balance weights (with a
bit of collateral damage due to things bouncing around inside the
crankcase)

cheers

Jules


Jules, can you mail me, i have a XD88/20 and some other nice stuff like boot/install tape.


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