Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

In most homes the refrigerator is the second-largest user of
electricity (13.7%), right after the air conditioner (16%). (Dept. of
Energy) With most appliances you save energy by using them less, but
you can't very well do that with your fridge. The main way to save
money with your fridge is to use an efficient model. New fridges
aren't just a little more efficient, they're incredibly more
efficient. A 1986-era 18 c.f. fridge uses 1400 kWh a year, while a
modern energy-efficient model uses only 350 kWh -- a whopping 75%
reduction. At 15¢ kWh, trading in a pre-1986 fridge for a new
efficient one would save about $158 a year in electricity costs. And
some older fridges are even worse than the average. One reader
estimates her savings to be $238 per year for trading in her 1979
fridge for a 2004 model.

One big caveat: All the figures on this page are with any ice maker
turned OFF. When the icemaker is on then usage could be as much as
double. (Consumer Reports) If you trade in an old fridge without an
icemaker for an icemaker-equipped fridge, and you run the icemaker,
you might not see any savings.

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...igerators.html

Metspitzer wrote:
Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

In most homes the refrigerator is the second-largest user of
electricity (13.7%), right after the air conditioner (16%). (Dept. of
Energy) With most appliances you save energy by using them less, but
you can't very well do that with your fridge. The main way to save
money with your fridge is to use an efficient model. New fridges
aren't just a little more efficient, they're incredibly more
efficient. A 1986-era 18 c.f. fridge uses 1400 kWh a year, while a
modern energy-efficient model uses only 350 kWh -- a whopping 75%
reduction. At 15¢ kWh, trading in a pre-1986 fridge for a new
efficient one would save about $158 a year in electricity costs. And
some older fridges are even worse than the average. One reader
estimates her savings to be $238 per year for trading in her 1979
fridge for a 2004 model.

One big caveat: All the figures on this page are with any ice maker
turned OFF. When the icemaker is on then usage could be as much as
double. (Consumer Reports) If you trade in an old fridge without an
icemaker for an icemaker-equipped fridge, and you run the icemaker,
you might not see any savings.

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...igerators.html

They also usually have door heater off. My 1977 fridge without ice maker
and opened once a day, uses $120 a year, $.13kwh. My 1995? Fridge uses $65
a year. Ice maker broke, and I think door heater off. I can't turn off
my1977 door heater, thinking of disconnecting it. I assume a modern unit
should use less than $50 year, average top bottom door units.

Greg

Metspitzer wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

Yes, we know that.

We knew that over a month ago, when this thread ended.

Why are you re-hashing it?

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...igerators.html

Check my posts on April 2 and April 10 when - I first mentioned - the
above URL.

On Wed, 09 May 2012 21:32:15 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

Metspitzer wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

Yes, we know that.

We knew that over a month ago, when this thread ended.

Why are you re-hashing it?

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...igerators.html

Check my posts on April 2 and April 10 when - I first mentioned - the
above URL.

I did not see it. I will.
Thanks

On 5/9/2012 9:50 PM, Metspitzer wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2012 21:32:15 -0400, Home wrote:

Metspitzer wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

Yes, we know that.

We knew that over a month ago, when this thread ended.

Why are you re-hashing it?

http://michaelbluejay.com/electricit...igerators.html

Check my posts on April 2 and April 10 when - I first mentioned- the
above URL.

I did not see it. I will.
Thanks
Ya, I posted a question about a month ago seeking info on, if it might
be worth replacing a 38 year old working freezer. Someone suggested
that I use a Kill-A-Watt to check it out. I did that and found that the
freezer used about $110 electricity ($0.11/KWH here) per year. Of
course, in my case, it would take years for a new replacement freezer to
pay for itself, so the old freezer continues to plod along and will,
until it breaks.

On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:12:44 -0400, Art Todesco wrote:
Ya, I posted a question about a month ago seeking info on, if it might
be worth replacing a 38 year old working freezer. Someone suggested
that I use a Kill-A-Watt to check it out. I did that and found that the
freezer used about $110 electricity ($0.11/KWH here) per year. Of
course, in my case, it would take years for a new replacement freezer to
pay for itself, so the old freezer continues to plod along and will,
until it breaks.

Same sort of deal with our fridge (built in 1977) - it would take a long
time for a replacement to pay for itself; much longer than I expect the
lifespan of a modern one to be. I'm up in the frozen north, too; part of
our domestic heating load is electric, so for quite a few months of the
year any heat output from the running of the ancient fridge is still
providing a useful service.

I'm not sure what I'll do when the old fridge does finally fail in some
terminal way... I doubt it's possible to buy a modern fridge with a 35
year warranty :-)

cheers

Jules

On Sat, 12 May 2012 15:23:08 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson
wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:12:44 -0400, Art Todesco wrote:
Ya, I posted a question about a month ago seeking info on, if it might
be worth replacing a 38 year old working freezer. Someone suggested
that I use a Kill-A-Watt to check it out. I did that and found that the
freezer used about $110 electricity ($0.11/KWH here) per year. Of
course, in my case, it would take years for a new replacement freezer to
pay for itself, so the old freezer continues to plod along and will,
until it breaks.

Same sort of deal with our fridge (built in 1977) - it would take a long
time for a replacement to pay for itself; much longer than I expect the
lifespan of a modern one to be. I'm up in the frozen north, too; part of
our domestic heating load is electric, so for quite a few months of the
year any heat output from the running of the ancient fridge is still
providing a useful service.

Absolutely. Although that means when the AC is on, that's more heat
to remove. Of course I only use the AC 10 days a year, in baltimore
(I used to call myself mm when I posted)

Another thing I like is that this one, from 1979, a Sears (whirlpool?)
seems indestructible. A mouse got stuck in the fan and for weeks the
fan at the bottom didn't blow. I thought that would make something
burn out, but that was 10+ years ago. Other times people have left
things in front of the front bottom air vents, for days at a time, and
that doesn't seem to hurt it.

Plus of course, it's harvest gold, and no fridge I could replace it
with in harvest gold would be much newer.

I'm not sure what I'll do when the old fridge does finally fail in some
terminal way... I doubt it's possible to buy a modern fridge with a 35
year warranty :-)

Probably not. And in Harvest Gold. But maybe if I google, I can find
one.

cheers

Jules

On Wed, 09 May 2012 21:05:26 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

In most homes the refrigerator is the second-largest user of
electricity (13.7%), right after the air conditioner (16%). (Dept. of
Energy) With most appliances you save energy by using them less, but
you can't very well do that with your fridge. The main way to save
money with your fridge is to use an efficient model. New fridges
aren't just a little more efficient, they're incredibly more
efficient. A 1986-era 18 c.f. fridge uses 1400 kWh a year, while a

My refrigerator dont use any electricity. I unplugged it a couple years
ago. I dont cook at home. I only used the fridge for beverages. In
the winter they stay cold on my back porch. In summer there is a spring
on my property that keeps my cans cold. It's a little inconvenient to
have to walk to the spring, but it saves money. I have considered
buying one of those small apartment sized fridges that are about 2 or 3
cu ft. I dont know how much power they take when they are so small.
I'd assume much less than a large fridge.

On Mon, 14 May 2012 01:42:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 09 May 2012 21:05:26 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

In most homes the refrigerator is the second-largest user of
electricity (13.7%), right after the air conditioner (16%). (Dept. of
Energy) With most appliances you save energy by using them less, but
you can't very well do that with your fridge. The main way to save
money with your fridge is to use an efficient model. New fridges
aren't just a little more efficient, they're incredibly more
efficient. A 1986-era 18 c.f. fridge uses 1400 kWh a year, while a

My refrigerator dont use any electricity. I unplugged it a couple years
ago. I dont cook at home. I only used the fridge for beverages. In
the winter they stay cold on my back porch. In summer there is a spring
on my property that keeps my cans cold. It's a little inconvenient to
have to walk to the spring, but it saves money. I have considered
buying one of those small apartment sized fridges that are about 2 or 3
cu ft. I dont know how much power they take when they are so small.
I'd assume much less than a large fridge.

We always bought beer at a stores that would let us fill our coolers
with ice free.

On Mon, 14 May 2012 11:14:12 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

On Mon, 14 May 2012 01:42:02 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 09 May 2012 21:05:26 -0400, Metspitzer
wrote:

Refrigerators are a big chunk of home energy use

In most homes the refrigerator is the second-largest user of
electricity (13.7%), right after the air conditioner (16%). (Dept. of
Energy) With most appliances you save energy by using them less, but
you can't very well do that with your fridge. The main way to save
money with your fridge is to use an efficient model. New fridges
aren't just a little more efficient, they're incredibly more
efficient. A 1986-era 18 c.f. fridge uses 1400 kWh a year, while a

My refrigerator dont use any electricity. I unplugged it a couple years
ago. I dont cook at home. I only used the fridge for beverages. In
the winter they stay cold on my back porch. In summer there is a spring
on my property that keeps my cans cold. It's a little inconvenient to
have to walk to the spring, but it saves money. I have considered
buying one of those small apartment sized fridges that are about 2 or 3
cu ft. I dont know how much power they take when they are so small.
I'd assume much less than a large fridge.

We always bought beer at a stores that would let us fill our coolers
with ice free.

Damn, that must go back to the 1950's....
Now a days there are no freebies. other than the phony ones where you
got to text something on your cell (so they can collect personal data),
and you never hear who wins (cuz no one does).....