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Central heat and air condition will not stop blowing
I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the
blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. I messed around and it went off. Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix. Thanks! |
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On Apr 28, 9:02*pm, "Tamara Lynn" wrote:
I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. *Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. *I messed around and it went off. *Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix.. Thanks! Find the circuit breaker for the heater/AC and turn it off that way for starters. |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:02:05 -0500, "Tamara Lynn"
wrote: I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. I messed around and it went off. Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix. Thanks! I had a furnace/AC blower that wouldn't stop blowing. Apparently the computer board got its electronics scrambled somehow. The fix was to unplug the furnace and leave it unplugged for several minutes (I used 10 minutes). Then when I plugged it back in all was working well again and has been now for several months. Kinda like rebooting a crashed computer I guess... |
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"AJL" wrote: On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:02:05 -0500, "Tamara Lynn" wrote: I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. I messed around and it went off. Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix. Thanks! I had a furnace/AC blower that wouldn't stop blowing. Apparently the computer board got its electronics scrambled somehow. The fix was to unplug the furnace and leave it unplugged for several minutes (I used 10 minutes). Then when I plugged it back in all was working well again and has been now for several months. Kinda like rebooting a crashed computer I guess... Thanks, I will try that. I just can't figure out if the problem is the thermostat or unit, so I will try both. |
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On Apr 29, 9:40*am, "Tamara Lynn" wrote:
"AJL" wrote: On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:02:05 -0500, "Tamara Lynn" wrote: I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. *Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. *I messed around and it went off. *Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix. Thanks! I had a furnace/AC blower that wouldn't stop blowing. Apparently the computer board got its electronics scrambled somehow. The fix was to unplug the furnace and leave it unplugged for several minutes (I used 10 minutes). Then when I plugged it back in all was working well again and has been now for several months. Kinda like rebooting a crashed computer I guess... Thanks, I will try that. *I just can't figure out if the problem is the thermostat or unit, so I will try both.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. |
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wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. |
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On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. |
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"Duesenberg" wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. I should have just rented a husband! lol T |
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On 04/29/2012 07:44 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. I should have just rented a husband!lol T That's a very real possibility on a system that old. I had the same thing happen one especially hot day. For a complete solution I needed to adjust the fan limit switch to not come on until it reached a somewhat higher temperature (my furnace is in the attic, and here in Texas it can reach 150 up there on a hot day, which is where the switch had been set to turn on the fan during heating season). |
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:02:05 -0500, "Tamara Lynn"
wrote: I had a "hard" power outage a couple of nights ago and all the sudden the blower keeps coming back on randomly, even though I have the Honeywell controller in the off postion (between heat and air) and the other on auto (not on). I opened my windows to enjoy the nice weather and about once an hour it will start blowing for a few minutes then stop. Before that, it wouldn't stop at all, but someone told me to make sure the doors in on the system in the garage were on tight. I messed around and it went off. Now it just comes on occasionally. My electric bill is going to be more than my budget if I can't find a fix. Thanks! Pull the fuse or trip the breaker to off. |
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On Apr 29, 9:18*pm, cjt wrote:
On 04/29/2012 07:44 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: *wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: * wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. *When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. *May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. *Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. *So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. *At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. *I should have just rented a husband!lol T That's a very real possibility on a system that old. *I had the same thing happen one especially hot day. *For a complete solution I needed to adjust the fan limit switch to not come on until it reached a somewhat higher temperature (my furnace is in the attic, and here in Texas it can reach 150 up there on a hot day, which is where the switch had been set to turn on the fan during heating season).- Hide quoted text - If the attic is getting that hot, why blame the pilot light? Those temps would make any furnace using a simple thermo switch for the blower to go on. Not to mention what those temps would be doing to your roof. |
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wrote in message ... On Apr 29, 9:18 pm, cjt wrote: On 04/29/2012 07:44 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. I should have just rented a husband!lol T That's a very real possibility on a system that old. I had the same thing happen one especially hot day. For a complete solution I needed to adjust the fan limit switch to not come on until it reached a somewhat higher temperature (my furnace is in the attic, and here in Texas it can reach 150 up there on a hot day, which is where the switch had been set to turn on the fan during heating season).- Hide quoted text - If the attic is getting that hot, why blame the pilot light? Those temps would make any furnace using a simple thermo switch for the blower to go on. Not to mention what those temps would be doing to your roof. 150 is not good for anything to operate. I'd have that attic very well ventilated to get it down near ambient. Big fan at one end, big opening at the other. |
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"cjt" wrote: On 04/29/2012 07:44 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. I should have just rented a husband!lol T That's a very real possibility on a system that old. I had the same thing happen one especially hot day. For a complete solution I needed to adjust the fan limit switch to not come on until it reached a somewhat higher temperature (my furnace is in the attic, and here in Texas it can reach 150 up there on a hot day, which is where the switch had been set to turn on the fan during heating season). So you had it turned up high enough to fan the flames? ;-) I have an attic fan that comes on at a certain temp. At first that was what I thought was happening, until I went in the attic and found that was not the problem. Since I pulled the batteries in the thermostat and doused the natural gas pilot, the problem has went away. Thanks to everyone who answered my post! T |
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On 4/30/2012 9:43 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
wrote: On 04/29/2012 07:44 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: On 4/29/2012 7:29 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: Just temporarily disconnect the thermostat if you want to rule that out. I pulled the batteries out of the thermostat for 10-15 seconds. When I put them back in, the fan immediately kicked on and finally shut off. Check to see if there is an LED light blinking on the furnace unit. There could be an error code. May be minor, may be major, may be nothing at all. Worth investigating. My Lennox system is 30 years old, I think before they got LED. :-) Anyway, I went out and turned the pilot light to the heat (gas) and then turned off the gas to the unit. So far the fan hasn't came back on. crosses fingers Perhaps the heat on the flame on the pilot heated the central system, and it kicked on just to disperse that heat. At least that is what I am hoping for...sigh. I should have just rented a husband!lol T That's a very real possibility on a system that old. I had the same thing happen one especially hot day. For a complete solution I needed to adjust the fan limit switch to not come on until it reached a somewhat higher temperature (my furnace is in the attic, and here in Texas it can reach 150 up there on a hot day, which is where the switch had been set to turn on the fan during heating season). So you had it turned up high enough to fan the flames? ;-) I have an attic fan that comes on at a certain temp. At first that was what I thought was happening, until I went in the attic and found that was not the problem. Since I pulled the batteries in the thermostat and doused the natural gas pilot, the problem has went away. Thanks to everyone who answered my post! T It's good to hear your system lasted that long but you might want to look into getting a new one and have someone look at your duct work too. |
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"gonjah" wrote: It's good to hear your system lasted that long but you might want to look into getting a new one and have someone look at your duct work too. I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T |
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"Tamara Lynn" wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. |
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On 4/30/2012 10:23 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Tamara Lynn" wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. Yup. I had a HVAC tech come out yesterday for maintenance and he only charged $70. I'd charge a lot more. Tamara: If you try to budget in a small amount in your monthly budget at least you'd have something for a major breakdown. That's how we did ours and it wasn't anywhere near as old as yours. A new system might save you a bit on your electric bill too. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote: "Tamara Lynn" wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot. lol |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote: 150 is not good for anything to operate. I'd have that attic very well ventilated to get it down near ambient. Big fan at one end, big opening at the other. I have my attic fan set at about 100 degrees, which lowers my energy bills. |
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On 4/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
"Ed wrote: "Tamara wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot.lol That $85 sounds like a min charge and not at all unusual. You're an accountant so so know what "opportunity cost" is. If you don't want to pay the min charge, don't have them come out. They have to have some form of protection. I always ask what the min service charge is upfront. It's good to know the hourly rate after that too. BTW: AFAIK, Freon is only going to get more expensive. I don't get upset about markups until they get past 100% but it's common to go well over that. |
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"gonjah" gonjah.net wrote: That $85 sounds like a min charge and not at all unusual. You're an accountant so so know what "opportunity cost" is. If you don't want to pay the min charge, don't have them come out. They have to have some form of protection. I always ask what the min service charge is upfront. It's good to know the hourly rate after that too. I should clarify that $85 in my area is not a bad charge. My point is I don't have the money to have some one come out. (hence, my post) I usually pay the yearly fee early for them to come out and check things out, etc. Seems like lately they are coming out for foolish things, instead of servicing the system and I wanted to make sure it wasn't something silly I just overlooked. My old A/C guy could diagnois my problem on the phone, but he finally retired. He service the unit for most of the thirty years. (Before I owned it.) I can paint, roof a home, change an electrical outlet, repair a post and panel on my stockade fence, replace a sink faucet, just to name a few... BTW: AFAIK, Freon is only going to get more expensive. I don't get upset about markups until they get past 100% but it's common to go well over that. T |
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On 4/30/2012 3:19 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
"gonjah"gonjah.net wrote: That $85 sounds like a min charge and not at all unusual. You're an accountant so so know what "opportunity cost" is. If you don't want to pay the min charge, don't have them come out. They have to have some form of protection. I always ask what the min service charge is upfront. It's good to know the hourly rate after that too. I should clarify that $85 in my area is not a bad charge. My point is I don't have the money to have some one come out. (hence, my post) I usually pay the yearly fee early for them to come out and check things out, etc. Seems like lately they are coming out for foolish things, instead of servicing the system and I wanted to make sure it wasn't something silly I just overlooked. My old A/C guy could diagnois my problem on the phone, but he finally retired. He service the unit for most of the thirty years. (Before I owned it.) I was wondering about that. Someone gave it a lot of TLC. I can paint, roof a home, change an electrical outlet, repair a post and panel on my stockade fence, replace a sink faucet, just to name a few... Necessity is the mother of invention. BTW: AFAIK, Freon is only going to get more expensive. I don't get upset about markups until they get past 100% but it's common to go well over that. T |
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On Apr 30, 11:41*am, "Tamara Lynn" wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote: "Tamara Lynn" wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. *I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. *I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. *But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. *It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. *In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. *I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. *I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. *Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. *I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot. *lol- Hide quoted text - I agree that it's very easy for a dishonest repair guy to pad the bill for an extra pound of freon. But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering how you would know. Did you weigh the system before and after he serviced it? |
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"Tamara Lynn" wrote As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot. lol Call it BS if you want, but that is a typical minimum charge in many areas for a service call. You don't have to break down the cost, but that is what they charge. Want weekend service? Figure 160+ Maybe they have better paid accountants. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote: Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. You must live in NYC for it to be that high of a price. :-) T |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote: Maybe they have better paid accountants. I hope so... T |
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"gonjah" gonjah.net wrote: On 4/30/2012 3:19 PM, Tamara Lynn wrote: I usually pay the yearly fee early for them to come out and check things out, etc. Seems like lately they are coming out for foolish things, instead of servicing the system and I wanted to make sure it wasn't something silly I just overlooked. My old A/C guy could diagnois my problem on the phone, but he finally retired. He service the unit for most of the thirty years. (Before I owned it.) I was wondering about that. Someone gave it a lot of TLC. I agree! I can paint, roof a home, change an electrical outlet, repair a post and panel on my stockade fence, replace a sink faucet, just to name a few... Necessity is the mother of invention. Exactly! T |
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wrote I agree that it's very easy for a dishonest repair guy to pad the bill for an extra pound of freon. But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering how you would know. Did you weigh the system before and after he serviced it? Like I should tell YOU how to rip customers off? lol For years it was either NO freon or half a pound. Then comes along 2 pounder. Next year nothing, etc. for a couple of years...then I talked to the orginal guy and he told me the charge was bullsit. T |
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On Apr 30, 6:26*pm, "Tamara Lynn" wrote:
wrote I agree that it's very easy for a dishonest repair guy to pad the bill for an extra pound of freon. *But I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering how you would know. Did you weigh the system before and after he serviced it? Like I should tell YOU how to rip customers off? lol For years it was either NO freon or half a pound. *Then comes along 2 pounder. *Next year nothing, etc. for a couple of years...then I talked to the orginal guy and he told me the charge was bullsit. T Now I see. It's either they hose you for 1/2 a pound or they hose you for 2 pounds. I don't have that problem because for 25 years I haven't had the routine yearly service. I just remove the leaves, change the filters and make sure it starts up. |
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On 04/30/2012 10:02 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
wrote: It's good to hear your system lasted that long but you might want to look into getting a new one and have someone look at your duct work too. I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T I once had a "professional" come out who disconnected every wire he could find, then called me over, pointed at the mess he'd made, and said, "It's ruined, we'll have to replace the whole unit." I sent him packing. But in the end he had done so much damage that I actually DID have to replace the whole unit, at considerable cost. Since then I do my own servicing. |
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On 04/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote:
"Ed wrote: "Tamara wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot.lol HVAC seems to attract crooks, IMHO. |
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On 4/30/2012 8:46 PM, cjt wrote:
On 04/30/2012 10:02 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote: wrote: It's good to hear your system lasted that long but you might want to look into getting a new one and have someone look at your duct work too. I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T I once had a "professional" come out who disconnected every wire he could find, then called me over, pointed at the mess he'd made, and said, "It's ruined, we'll have to replace the whole unit." I sent him packing. But in the end he had done so much damage that I actually DID have to replace the whole unit, at considerable cost. Since then I do my own servicing. It really pays to check references. I have no desire to fix my own HVAC when there are plenty of qualified techs that do honest work and can get the job done in a fraction of the time. YMMV. |
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On 4/30/2012 8:48 PM, cjt wrote:
On 04/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote: "Ed wrote: "Tamara wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot.lol HVAC seems to attract crooks, IMHO. Conjecture you can't back up with any meaningful stats. Fact is, most of these techs work for companies that have no interest in screwing anybody because they live an die by their reputations just like any business. |
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On May 1, 2:45*am, gonjah gonjah.net wrote:
On 4/30/2012 8:48 PM, cjt wrote: On 04/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote: "Ed *wrote: "Tamara *wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. *I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. *I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. *But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. *It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. |
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On Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:26:19 AM UTC-4, Tamara Lynn wrote:
online manual that doesn't seem to help http://www.honeywellcentral.com/ssi/...30B_manual.pdf It won't, because you have a problem that the designers of the system never intended the average homeowner to diagnose and fix themselves. IMHO this is one of those times that "if you have to ask, it's best to call in a professional." It actually costs NOTHING to call a professional and ask their opinion. You can always say "Not today, thanks" if they tell you that you should arrange a service call, and try a different outfit. |
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On May 1, 10:26*am, gonjah wrote:
On 5/1/2012 7:40 AM, wrote: On May 1, 2:45 am, gonjahgonjah.net *wrote: On 4/30/2012 8:48 PM, cjt wrote: On 04/30/2012 10:41 AM, Tamara Lynn wrote: "Ed * *wrote: "Tamara * *wrote in message I was told about 16 years ago when I bought the house that the Lennox central heat and air was on its last leg. *I am glad I have waited this long. I have been cheated nearly every time a service 'professional' comes out. One drove a half a mile, slammed the doors shut and billed me $85 for 5 minutes of work. *I am a single mother, now unemployed and can't afford a new unit at this time. *But it is on my wish list...after the election, when I hope to be able to get a job. :-) T Once you get working, think about a new unit. *It may pay for itself with energy savings. Oh, that tech worked more than five minutes, unless he lived next door. And he has a lot of costs to maintain that truck and tools. *In this area, it is about $120 to ring the doorbell. As I said above, it's on my wish list. *I had two bids to buy one at the time I lost my job. *I have to live on meager savings, because my child support is more than $367 per month, which means no foods stamps or healthcare. As to $120 to ring the bell, well that is pure bull****. *Not only am I an accountant, but have owned and ran several businesses over 25 years. I am not going to break down the costs for you, but he was practically next door. The one before him lied about a pound on the freon. I may be a female, but I am not an idiot.lol HVAC seems to attract crooks, IMHO. Conjecture you can't back up with any meaningful stats. Fact is, most of these techs work for companies that have no interest in screwing anybody because they live an die by their reputations just like any business.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Statistics? * I doubt there are any statistics and how you would get any would take quite an effort. It's not like traffic deaths where they are clear and logged. That's what I said. "Conjecture you can't back up with any meaningful stats." Just as you can't back up your claim that they are inherently honest. There are plenty of contractors out there that make a career of screwing customers. Examples being the home improvement guys that contract to do a bathroom, take customers money, do some half-assed work with no permits, then disappear. And that happens plenty of times. I don't think statistics are necessary. Life experience is enough in cases like this. |
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