DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   Home Repair (https://www.diybanter.com/home-repair/)
-   -   tree hooks (https://www.diybanter.com/home-repair/338744-tree-hooks.html)

Deodiaus April 12th 12 11:03 PM

tree hooks
 
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.

Frank[_13_] April 12th 12 11:49 PM

tree hooks
 
On 4/12/2012 6:03 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


I'd think dropping a half ton on your yard from 20 feet might not be
good for stuff either. Good tree cutter would tie it off to prevent
damage on dropping.

Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 13th 12 12:21 AM

tree hooks
 
If your regular tree guy declined, there is a message in that.

I'd be wanting to cut off a couple feet at a time, rather than drop the half
ton branch all at once. That said, I'm just talking to myself, and none of
this is to be considered legal advice.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Deodiaus" wrote in message
...
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.



Larry Fishel April 13th 12 12:56 AM

tree hooks
 
This might seem obvious, but I have trouble imagining that a pro would
even think about cutting this branch off all at once...

I've done this myself by climbing out on the branch with a chainsaw
and cutting off a section at a time (not enough at once to risk
catapulting myself across the yard). Even though it wasn't that high,
I tied myself off to the branch...on the correct side of the cut. :)

This was a thick, healthy branch where I had no question about it
holding me. I still wouldn't exactly recommend this approach...

Larry Fishel April 13th 12 01:05 AM

tree hooks
 
Oh, and if I needed this done and didn't enjoy climbing as much, I'd
rent a cherry picker or hire someone who had one. I'd still cut it
into sections (would have to be done later anyway).

Dan Espen[_2_] April 13th 12 01:08 AM

tree hooks
 
Frank writes:

On 4/12/2012 6:03 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


I'd think dropping a half ton on your yard from 20 feet might not be
good for stuff either. Good tree cutter would tie it off to prevent
damage on dropping.


Indeed.

I'm not in the tree business, but I know they prefer to be able to
bring equipment in. The more they can bring in, the cheaper they
can do the job. If there is access, some plywood sheets or other
material should distribute the load to prevent damage.

We had lots of damage here from branches falling off in the October
snow storm.

--
Dan Espen

bob haller April 13th 12 02:00 AM

tree hooks
 
On Apr 12, 7:21*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If your regular tree guy declined, there is a message in that.

I'd be wanting to cut off a couple feet at a time, rather than drop the half
ton branch all at once. That said, I'm just talking to myself, and none of
this is to be considered legal advice.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Deodiaus" wrote in message

...
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. *I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. *How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? *I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


pole saws generally go to 10 to 15 feet.it might be possible to buy a
longer one

or you could use a rope chain saw. its hunk of chain saw chain with
a rope on either end.... add extra rope and you could stand far enough
away from the falling limb that it wouldnt be a hazard.

you would need to throw a stone with a string attached over the limb
scheduled for removal. it will be hard work since the chain will cut
slowly being only hand powered. plus the limb will likely tear rather
than cut clear. this will necessiate multiple cuts


Tegger[_3_] April 13th 12 02:04 AM

tree hooks
 
Deodiaus wrote in news:8859c77c-f7c1-40e8-9ec8-
:

I have a guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work.



He did???? WHY? Were you arguing about the price? Is he a one-man show?

It doesn't matter whether the branch weighs 10,000 lbs or 1 lb. /Any/ tree
guy knows how to take them down properly.

I've watched them take down 100-year-old oaks with branches that must be
100,000 lbs each. For a tree like that, they bring in a crew. That way
there's enough manpower for one guy to do the cutting while the others
control the piece and bring it down safely. They're cutting it bit-by-bit,
from the outside in, eventually leaving only the trunk behind. And this in
the middle of an old part of town with alleys, narrow streets, cars
everywhere, and houses close together.

--
Tegger

Harry K April 13th 12 04:47 AM

tree hooks
 
On Apr 12, 3:03*pm, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. *I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. *How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? *I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


No, there is no such attachement that I know of (30+ years of semi
pro chainsawing).

You might try renting a powered "man lift" and cut it off standing in
that. In general, unless you are very familiar with chainsaws, you
shouldn't even attempt to do it yourself.

Harry K

dadiOH[_3_] April 13th 12 01:21 PM

tree hooks
 
Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


Take big branches off in sections. Manageble sections.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico




Frank[_13_] April 13th 12 02:09 PM

tree hooks
 
On 4/12/2012 8:08 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
writes:

On 4/12/2012 6:03 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


I'd think dropping a half ton on your yard from 20 feet might not be
good for stuff either. Good tree cutter would tie it off to prevent
damage on dropping.


Indeed.

I'm not in the tree business, but I know they prefer to be able to
bring equipment in. The more they can bring in, the cheaper they
can do the job. If there is access, some plywood sheets or other
material should distribute the load to prevent damage.

We had lots of damage here from branches falling off in the October
snow storm.


We had a lot of pine branches down near the house a few years ago due to
snow so we had half dozen cut down. My tree guy sent in a crew of
cutters that downed the trees and ground branches. Then he brought in a
hauler to take heavy trunks but before driving over front lawn he put
down large plastic mats. When he was done the lawn was hardly touched.
Previous years, he took down a large maple near the house and had a guy
climb the tree with a chain saw, tie of branches to lower to ground
without damaging house or nearby rail fence.

A few years ago a 75 year old neighbor died when a downed tree he was
cutting fell on him. I also met a tree cutter that had a bad fall and a
life of drug addiction followed. It is a dangerous business.

Then I know of el cheapo tree cutters, couple of guys with pick up and
chain saw, that have dropped trees on driveways cracking them not to
mention that they have no liability insurance.

Some things are best left to the pros.

TimR[_2_] April 13th 12 02:29 PM

tree hooks
 
On Apr 12, 7:56*pm, Larry Fishel wrote:
I've done this myself by climbing out on the branch with a chainsaw
and cutting off a section at a time (not enough at once to risk
catapulting myself across the yard). Even though it wasn't that high,
I tied myself off to the branch...on the correct side of the cut. :)


I had a friend seriously injured using a similar method.

He was on a ladder, and the ladder was on the correct side of the cut.

But he didn't predict that when the weight of the limb was removed,
the remaining part on the ladder side would spring up.

Best to know what you're doing before you try this stuff at home.

Tomsic[_2_] April 13th 12 03:23 PM

tree hooks
 

"Frank" wrote in message
...
On 4/12/2012 8:08 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
writes:

On 4/12/2012 6:03 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.

I'd think dropping a half ton on your yard from 20 feet might not be
good for stuff either. Good tree cutter would tie it off to prevent
damage on dropping.


Indeed.

I'm not in the tree business, but I know they prefer to be able to
bring equipment in. The more they can bring in, the cheaper they
can do the job. If there is access, some plywood sheets or other
material should distribute the load to prevent damage.

We had lots of damage here from branches falling off in the October
snow storm.


We had a lot of pine branches down near the house a few years ago due to
snow so we had half dozen cut down. My tree guy sent in a crew of cutters
that downed the trees and ground branches. Then he brought in a hauler to
take heavy trunks but before driving over front lawn he put down large
plastic mats. When he was done the lawn was hardly touched.
Previous years, he took down a large maple near the house and had a guy
climb the tree with a chain saw, tie of branches to lower to ground
without damaging house or nearby rail fence.

A few years ago a 75 year old neighbor died when a downed tree he was
cutting fell on him. I also met a tree cutter that had a bad fall and a
life of drug addiction followed. It is a dangerous business.

Then I know of el cheapo tree cutters, couple of guys with pick up and
chain saw, that have dropped trees on driveways cracking them not to
mention that they have no liability insurance.

Some things are best left to the pros.


Agree. My new house was damaged -- bent window and broken siding -- when a
landscaper working next door decided to cut down a dead tree. He didn't
know how to tie the tree and didn't know how to cut the tree so that it
would fall in a particular direction. Use an expert.

Tomsic



Stormin Mormon[_7_] April 13th 12 03:29 PM

tree hooks
 
Sorry to hear that tree fellers have caused damage.

Some tree guys will also climb up, and saw off a few branches. So that the
tree is totally known to be heavy on one side, and the weight on the forward
side pulls the tree in the direction that's desired.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Tomsic" wrote in message
...


Then I know of el cheapo tree cutters, couple of guys with pick up and
chain saw, that have dropped trees on driveways cracking them not to
mention that they have no liability insurance.

Some things are best left to the pros.


Agree. My new house was damaged -- bent window and broken siding -- when a
landscaper working next door decided to cut down a dead tree. He didn't
know how to tie the tree and didn't know how to cut the tree so that it
would fall in a particular direction. Use an expert.

Tomsic





Larry Fishel April 13th 12 07:12 PM

tree hooks
 
On Apr 13, 9:29*am, TimR wrote:
On Apr 12, 7:56*pm, Larry Fishel wrote:

I've done this myself by climbing out on the branch with a chainsaw
and cutting off a section at a time (not enough at once to risk
catapulting myself across the yard). Even though it wasn't that high,
I tied myself off to the branch...on the correct side of the cut. :)


I had a friend seriously injured using a similar method.

He was on a ladder, and the ladder was on the correct side of the cut.

But he didn't predict that when the weight of the limb was removed,
the remaining part on the ladder side would spring up.

Best to know what you're doing before you try this stuff at home.


Yeah, while like I said, I don't exactly recommend my approach, I felt
safer climbing than using a ladder. Too many things can go wrong (like
the part you just cut swinging and taking the ladder out, or hitting
the ground and bouncing.)


[email protected] April 14th 12 12:43 AM

tree hooks
 
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:49:44 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 4/12/2012 6:03 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a tree limb I want cut off.
It is about a 1000 lbs branch at a 30 degree incline off the vertical
and 20 ft off the ground.
I was wondering if there is an attachment one could make to a tree
which would hold a chain saw which would complete the cut. I have a
guy who cuts my trees, but turned down the work. How much should I
offer for that sort of job?
I know that people suspend themselves off trees or ladders, but I'd
feel much better if someone
were to just build a mechanism which holds a chain saw in place which
just completes a cut.
Is there such a thing? I have seen attachments to a backhoe but I
don't want anything like that in my hard because of the irrigation and
sewer lines in the yard.
I'd feel much better knowing that everyone is far away from the tree
when the branch falls off.


I'd think dropping a half ton on your yard from 20 feet might not be
good for stuff either. Good tree cutter would tie it off to prevent
damage on dropping.


All the OP needs to do is park his car under the limb when it falls.
The car will absorb the shock of the fall and that will avoid doing
damage to the lawn. because the car springs and tires will absorb the
impact. :)


Deodiaus April 14th 12 11:16 PM

tree hooks
 
I think it was a question of money and time.
He works as a lawn guy, so I think he doesn't think it is worth his
time to do this work at this time. I think he would be more inclined
to do this work either for more money or during the off-season. I
should have asked him 3 months ago.
BTW, he did cut down another tree earlier in the week.

On 12. Apr, 18:21 h., "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
If your regular tree guy declined, there is a message in that.





All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:11 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter