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micky February 22nd 12 05:50 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft

Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....

In a regular plane, the pilot can look over his left shoulder and see
what's back there, and if he adjusts his right sideview mirror right,
he can see what's back there on the right side. He can turn the
plane slightly and see what is around him 360^ He can lift his head
and through a clear canopy, he can see what is above him.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes. I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?

harry February 22nd 12 06:02 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
On Feb 22, 5:50*pm, micky wrote:
OT *Drones, or unmanned aircraft

*Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....

In a regular plane, the pilot can look over his left shoulder and see
what's back there, and if he adjusts his right sideview mirror right,
he can see what's back there on the right side. * He can turn the
plane slightly and see what is around him 360^ *He can lift his head
and through a clear canopy, he can see what is above him.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes. *I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. * Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?


The plan is pointless if the aircraft is remote controlled. If it
flys completely automatically ie no pilot anywhere.that's something
else.

Some aircraft can do this now almost.

notbob February 22nd 12 06:06 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
On 2012-02-22, micky wrote:

Is any of this true with unmanned planes.


It would think you would have as many views as the number of vid cams
yer UAV can hump around. How many do you want? Worried about
tailgaters?

nb


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[email protected][_2_] February 22nd 12 06:18 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
On Feb 22, 12:50*pm, micky wrote:
OT *Drones, or unmanned aircraft

*Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....

In a regular plane, the pilot can look over his left shoulder and see
what's back there,


He can see to the left and slightly behind, but
not what's farther back or directly behind.


and if he adjusts his right sideview mirror right,
he can see what's back there on the right side.


What right sideview mirror? Might find one on
some plane that someone has added, but I
don't think it's common.





He can turn the
plane slightly and see what is around him 360^ *He can lift his head
and through a clear canopy, he can see what is above him.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes.


No. The unmanned plane can't turn 360. It just
flies straight forever. To get back to where it took
off from it has to have enough fuel to circle the
earth.



*I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. * Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?


No, more likely you're trolling.

Don Phillipson[_3_] February 22nd 12 07:42 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
"micky" wrote in message
...

Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....


When we think of it, we notice fully automatic trains still
carry drivers.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



micky February 22nd 12 08:21 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:18:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 22, 12:50*pm, micky wrote:
OT *Drones, or unmanned aircraft

*Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....

In a regular plane, the pilot can look over his left shoulder and see
what's back there,


He can see to the left and slightly behind, but
not what's farther back or directly behind.


and if he adjusts his right sideview mirror right,
he can see what's back there on the right side.


What right sideview mirror? Might find one on


Like they have on the F-16.

some plane that someone has added, but I
don't think it's common.






He can turn the
plane slightly and see what is around him 360^ *He can lift his head
and through a clear canopy, he can see what is above him.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes.


No. The unmanned plane can't turn 360. It just
flies straight forever. To get back to where it took
off from it has to have enough fuel to circle the
earth.


Oh.


*I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. * Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?


No, more likely you're trolling.


No, I really wonder about this.

gregz February 23rd 12 04:28 AM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
micky wrote:
OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft

Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....

In a regular plane, the pilot can look over his left shoulder and see
what's back there, and if he adjusts his right sideview mirror right,
he can see what's back there on the right side. He can turn the
plane slightly and see what is around him 360^ He can lift his head
and through a clear canopy, he can see what is above him.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes. I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?


Back 40 years ago I was in a unmanned plane group in the army. Those flew
about 200 mph. If you let it fly, it would go in a straight line by
gyroscope. If it lost signal, motor would shut off and chute deployed.

Other jet aircraft were also flown nearby. Radar would be used to fly them.
Pretty much clear desert range.

We flew for Vulcan training. 100 round per second shells. Sometimes they
could never hit the plane and we would fake a hit. RCAT fort bliss,
mcgregor range nm.

Greg

G. Morgan[_9_] February 23rd 12 03:20 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
micky wrote:

Is any of this true with unmanned planes. I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down.


I think the mission flight is pre-programmed, and mostly on
autopilot. The operator locates and destroys the target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE0Ad...eature=related


Stormin Mormon[_7_] February 23rd 12 03:20 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
After watching the train movie "unstoppable", I'm glad there is a redundant
engineer.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477080/
That movie was a bit spooky. It had a lot of the ingredients of an all time
hit movie (in my view). Starts off the movie wtih a bunch of conflict. The
train takes the attention, and a couple of unlikely comrades rapidly decide
to act together for the good of all.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...

When we think of it, we notice fully automatic trains still
carry drivers.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)





G. Morgan[_9_] February 23rd 12 03:24 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
harry wrote:

Some aircraft can do this now almost.


There are many passenger jets that can taxi, take-off, fly to the
destination and land itself, and have the ability to auto taxi.

A modern 747 can do all that, and its computer is preloaded with
every possible landing runway in the world that can accommodate the
large plane.


[email protected] February 23rd 12 03:52 PM

OT Drones, or unmanned aircraft
 
On Feb 22, 12:50*pm, micky wrote:
OT *Drones, or unmanned aircraft

*Heard on Kojo Nnambi that unmanned aircraft for commericial (and
private?) use will be legal next year, and got to thinking.....


They're "legal" NOW, as in there are no laws against them.

The FAA is trying to regulate them so they aren't flying willy-nilly
in the airspace with people-carrying airplanes. Some idiot will
inevitably decide it'd be fun to take a joyride through the pattern at
a major municipal airport, thinking nothing bad will happen, and
inadvertently take down an A380 full of fuel and passengers. They
think regulations will stop that.

Is any of this true with unmanned planes. *I have the feeling the
pilot can see straight ahead, and if it has a down-pointed camera,
straight down. * Am I piloting the Hy-un-dry of unmanned planes?


Depends on the purpose of the airplane. Some only have forward-facing
cameras. Some have an array of cameras. Some have a camera on a gimbal
in the airplane that follows the pilot's head movements.

These regulations are going to hurt the guy with a toy plane in his
backyard the most. The FAA loves to write vague, sweeping regulations,
and right now what they want to regulate includes any sort of remotely-
piloted aircraft at any altitude.


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