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radiotom January 28th 12 08:38 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - Bluworld of Water. Now you'll notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil

hr(bob) [email protected] January 28th 12 09:46 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On Jan 28, 1:38*pm, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil

--
radiotom


Wow - They are pricey!! I would look at some very closely to see how
they are built, what size pump they use, etc. Cellphone cameras are
very usefull for doing that. From what I have sem, the top tube has a
series of tiny holes to distribute the water evenly. But, I am not
sure if they use regular tap water or some special concoction.

Good luck and let us know what you do, it's always good to learn
something new, and maybe usefulG.

[email protected][_2_] January 28th 12 10:13 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On Jan 28, 3:46*pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote:
On Jan 28, 1:38*pm, radiotom wrote:





Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!


Neil


--
radiotom


Wow - They are pricey!! * I would look at some very closely to see how
they are built, what size pump they use, etc. *Cellphone cameras are
very usefull for doing that. *From what I have sem, the top tube has a
series of tiny holes to distribute the water evenly. *But, I am not
sure if they use regular tap water or some special concoction.

Good luck and let us know what you do, it's always good to learn
something new, and maybe usefulG.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Probably moderately hard to make one. Probably much harder to make
one that's stainless, copper, etc with a
nice polished, finished contemporary look like the ones in the pics
that the company is selling. You have the
appropriate tools to cut, fit, weld, finish the stainless?

Anybody in China knocking these off for $1000 yet?

mike January 28th 12 10:30 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 11:38 AM, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil

Consider it a novelty item. Looks good initially, but has unintended
consequences and the "new" wears off rapidly.

Do you really want/need the increased humidity. Not very useful if you
have to turn it off to keep the mold down or the windows from dripping
in winter.

Who's gonna clean it when it fogs up with bacteria?

What's it cost to replace the floor where it leaks.

Do you put something in it to keep bacteria/mold from growing?
What happens when the dog drinks it?

Is the cat gonna pee in it?

You might find that the sound makes you want to pee all the time.

I'd bet some googling would find you a screen saver that put the waterfall
on the "big screen" and made some gurgling sounds. Or a fireplace
in winter.

If I were intent on building something, I'd start with a recording of
a waterfall, some lights, a fan and some plastic wrap that fluttered
over a picture of a waterfall. You can buy such an item already made.
I see 'em all the time at garage sales after the "new" wore off.


JimT[_2_] January 28th 12 10:56 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 3:30 PM, mike wrote:
On 1/28/2012 11:38 AM, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil

Consider it a novelty item. Looks good initially, but has unintended
consequences and the "new" wears off rapidly.

Do you really want/need the increased humidity. Not very useful if you
have to turn it off to keep the mold down or the windows from dripping
in winter.

Who's gonna clean it when it fogs up with bacteria?


Assuming there are no fish a little chlorine and PR10000 would take care
of critters. I'd keep an eye on PH too.


What's it cost to replace the floor where it leaks.


That would be my concern particularly with wood or carpet.


Do you put something in it to keep bacteria/mold from growing?
What happens when the dog drinks it?

Is the cat gonna pee in it?

You might find that the sound makes you want to pee all the time.


Prostate problems?


I'd bet some googling would find you a screen saver that put the
waterfall
on the "big screen" and made some gurgling sounds. Or a fireplace
in winter.


I have an aquarium and the sound of the protein skimmer can be annoying.
I'd think this thing would be about as exciting as a aquarium. Fun for a
couple of months then: "What was I thinking?" Craigslist time.


If I were intent on building something, I'd start with a recording of
a waterfall, some lights, a fan and some plastic wrap that fluttered
over a picture of a waterfall. You can buy such an item already made.
I see 'em all the time at garage sales after the "new" wore off.


Or like mentioned above. Chinese knock offs.

You might be able to build one out of scraps. Make some plans and take
them to a metal shop.


pussy whipped January 28th 12 11:09 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 2:38 PM, radiotom wrote:
My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...?tid=sm_btn_tw

An outbreak of Legionnaires’ disease in Wisconsin has been linked to a
decorative water wall in a hospital lobby, according to a study
published Tuesday that suggested the popular architectural feature can
pose dangers in a health-care setting, especially for people with
weakened immune systems.

dadiOH[_3_] January 28th 12 11:26 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw
it in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok.
My wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!


I don't think it would be all that hard. IF you are able to do metal work,
that is; if not, I don't think it would be terribly expensive to have the
metal work done by a shop.

Basically, you would need...

1. A watertight pan to hold the water

2. A non-rusting frame attached to the pan to hold the panel

3. A submersible pump

4. Probably a filter.

The hard part is figuring out what you want. Vertical panel or inclined?
Glass? Metal? Smooth or maybe with angled troughs so the water will run
down to the next below it.

You need a pan big enough for stability (especially if you have a cat :)

You need a way to get the panel out of the frame without wrecking everything

You need room in the frame for tubing. Small, flexible plastic tubing such
as that used for aquarium accessories might be good.

A way to drain it could be useful

Gotta be able to clean it.

Might need to add some chlorine to the water.
_________________

The above aren't necessarily suggestions, just sort of thinking out load.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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Jim Elbrecht January 29th 12 03:02 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
radiotom wrote:


Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!


I think mike made a pretty good list of what could go wrong. In
spite of that-- I still think water is cool. I built an outdoor
'pond' with a little waterfall a few years ago & it is well the
little amount of effort to keep it going.

For indoors, though, I'll bet you could get a lot of advice on an
aquarium group/forum.

Jim

DanG[_2_] January 29th 12 04:11 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 1:38 PM, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil






Electrician buddy of mine spent countless hours creating a water feature
on the patio with 1/2'ed whiskey barrels, stone work, exotic plantings,
etc. That was several years back and he just hasn't had the heart to
tear it back out, though it hasn't run since about two weeks after he
completed it. The constant sound of the pumps and the splashing water
drove them nuts, so they turned it all off.

--


___________________________________

Keep the whole world singing . . .
Dan G
remove the seven

Robert Neville January 29th 12 05:22 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
radiotom wrote:

Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated.


Commercial ones are extremely expensive. I wanted a wall fountain (not free
standing) for a new house a few years ago. Something about 30x72 would run $2000
or more. Ended up building one myself that turned out quite well, but it wasn't
easy the first time. Now that I've made all the mistakes, it would be much
easier to do another one!

http://www.mewsgirl.com/fountain.jpg


JimT[_2_] January 29th 12 05:30 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 10:22 PM, Robert Neville wrote:
wrote:

Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated.

Commercial ones are extremely expensive. I wanted a wall fountain (not free
standing) for a new house a few years ago. Something about 30x72 would run $2000
or more. Ended up building one myself that turned out quite well, but it wasn't
easy the first time. Now that I've made all the mistakes, it would be much
easier to do another one!

http://www.mewsgirl.com/fountain.jpg


Looks nice. What was the major expense?

Robert Neville January 29th 12 05:49 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
JimT wrote:

http://www.mewsgirl.com/fountain.jpg


Looks nice. What was the major expense?


Thank you - there was no one expensive item. All together, I probably put in
$300 worth of materials, including the pump and lighting.

Building it up was pretty complex and probably just a little overkill. Started
with 1/2" plywood with 1/4" hardiboard on top, then used epoxy thinset to set
the tile. Used some 2x3 galvanized roofing drip strip painted brown to set the
side edges.

The top and bottom boxes are just basic white wood. Started out with 1/8"
plexiglass with the seams set in silicone caulk in the bottom, but couldn't get
it water tight. A seamless black bin bag works just fine. The pump is a magnetic
fountain pump. The trick is to get one rated for the lift and volume of water.

Built a PVC T shaped distributor pipe at the top with smaller to larger holes
drilled out to keep the flow the same across. Had a sheet metal shop bend a
couple of pieces of metal to hold the pipe and provide a sloped shelf for the
water to follow.

It works fine, but the killer is the weight. When you add up the tile,
hardiboard and plywood, you're probably talking 150 pounds. I had the sheet
metal shop build me a bracket for the wall and back of the fountain. It takes
two guys to lift it. If I did it again I'd just do a French cleat, but that
wouldn't change the weight.

Jon Danniken[_4_] January 29th 12 08:40 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
dadiOH wrote:
I don't think it would be all that hard. IF you are able to do metal

work, that is; if not, I don't think it would be terribly expensive
to have the metal work done by a shop.

Basically, you would need...

1. A watertight pan to hold the water

2. A non-rusting frame attached to the pan to hold the panel

3. A submersible pump

4. Probably a filter.

The hard part is figuring out what you want. Vertical panel or
inclined? Glass? Metal? Smooth or maybe with angled troughs so the
water will run down to the next below it.

You need a pan big enough for stability (especially if you have a cat
:)
You need a way to get the panel out of the frame without wrecking
everything
You need room in the frame for tubing. Small, flexible plastic
tubing such as that used for aquarium accessories might be good.

A way to drain it could be useful

Gotta be able to clean it.

Might need to add some chlorine to the water.
_________________

The above aren't necessarily suggestions, just sort of thinking out
load.


You know what I was thinking is to start with the panel from an old
bath/shower door. You'd have tempered glass for safety, and it'd be rated
for water duty right off the bat.

Jon




Mr. Austerity January 29th 12 10:31 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote:
On Jan 28, 1:38 pm, radiotom wrote:





Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(
http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!
Neil
--
radiotom

Wow - They are pricey!! I would look at some very closely to see how
they are built, what size pump they use, etc. Cellphone cameras are
very usefull for doing that. From what I have sem, the top tube has a
series of tiny holes to distribute the water evenly. But, I am not
sure if they use regular tap water or some special concoction.

Good luck and let us know what you do, it's always good to learn
something new, and maybe usefulG.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Probably moderately hard to make one. Probably much harder to make
one that's stainless, copper, etc with a
nice polished, finished contemporary look like the ones in the pics
that the company is selling. You have the
appropriate tools to cut, fit, weld, finish the stainless?

Anybody in China knocking these off for $1000 yet?


I've got something like it now, it's called an upstairs leaking toilet.

Pointer January 30th 12 11:08 PM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 1/28/2012 2:38 PM, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Fountains/products/29/). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil




Waterfalls have lead to legionnaires disease in hospitals.



radiotom February 5th 12 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pointer (Post 2794762)
On 1/28/2012 2:38 PM, radiotom wrote:
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
(Indoor Water Fountains, Indoor Waterfalls - Bluworld HOMelements. Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil




Waterfalls have lead to legionnaires disease in hospitals.


Hey, thanks for all the replies! You guys are a hoot:) You've certainly given me something to think about, I think I could handle building something. As for maintenance, I guess that'll be the wife. Yeah right. Some great advice.

The Daring Dufas[_7_] February 5th 12 07:13 AM

DIY Indoor Waterfall?
 
On 2/4/2012 5:27 PM, radiotom wrote:
Pointer;2794762 Wrote:
On 1/28/2012 2:38 PM, radiotom wrote:-
Ok, I've been lurking for awhile but I have a question that I've been
posting to other forums too, collecting ideas, so I thought I'd throw
it
in here too. I wasn't sure where to post it but I hope this is Ok. My
wife and I recently went on a home tour and one of the homes had an
indoor waterfall. Now my wife is really on a kick to have one of our
own. Here's the kind of thing she's looking at - 'Bluworld of Water'
('Indoor Water Fountains, Indoor Waterfalls - Bluworld HOMelements'
(http://shop.bluworldusa.com/All-Foun...products/29/)). Now you'll
notice that these thing are quite expensive. I know she doesn't really
expect me to go out and buy one, she knows how cheap I am, but I would
love to get her one for our anniversary. So, what I'm thinking is, how
hard could it be to make one of these? I'm looking for suggestion and
ideas, any opinions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Neil



-
Waterfalls have lead to legionnaires disease in hospitals.



Hey, thanks for all the replies! You guys are a hoot:) You've certainly
given me something to think about, I think I could handle building
something. As for maintenance, I guess that'll be the wife. Yeah right.
Some great advice.


Just make sure you maintain your wife, you don't want her calling on
someone else for proper maintenance. ^_^

TDD

johnyeros October 22nd 12 10:17 PM

Sorry to resurrect a dead horse. But I'm interested in building something like this.

What was the pump size you used for this and how tall is that waterwall?

Very awesome !
Thanks :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Neville (Post 2793485)
JimT wrote:

http://www.mewsgirl.com/fountain.jpg


Looks nice. What was the major expense?


Thank you - there was no one expensive item. All together, I probably put in
$300 worth of materials, including the pump and lighting.

Building it up was pretty complex and probably just a little overkill. Started
with 1/2" plywood with 1/4" hardiboard on top, then used epoxy thinset to set
the tile. Used some 2x3 galvanized roofing drip strip painted brown to set the
side edges.

The top and bottom boxes are just basic white wood. Started out with 1/8"
plexiglass with the seams set in silicone caulk in the bottom, but couldn't get
it water tight. A seamless black bin bag works just fine. The pump is a magnetic
fountain pump. The trick is to get one rated for the lift and volume of water.

Built a PVC T shaped distributor pipe at the top with smaller to larger holes
drilled out to keep the flow the same across. Had a sheet metal shop bend a
couple of pieces of metal to hold the pipe and provide a sloped shelf for the
water to follow.

It works fine, but the killer is the weight. When you add up the tile,
hardiboard and plywood, you're probably talking 150 pounds. I had the sheet
metal shop build me a bracket for the wall and back of the fountain. It takes
two guys to lift it. If I did it again I'd just do a French cleat, but that
wouldn't change the weight.



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