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Hank[_6_] January 20th 12 03:40 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank

Steve Barker[_6_] January 20th 12 03:55 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank


why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Oren[_2_] January 20th 12 04:40 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.

I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.

I would use them If I could :-/

[email protected] January 20th 12 04:56 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank

I've used foam ones - and they work. I've used the ones with the cone
as well, and they REALLY work. Unless the sewer backs up it is
virtually impossible for water to leak out - even if sewer gas could
get out.

Oren[_2_] January 20th 12 05:05 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.

I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.

I would use them If I could :-/


Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.

The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.

Hank[_6_] January 21st 12 03:51 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 20, 12:05*pm, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.


I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.


I would use them If I could :-/


Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.

The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.


I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.

Hank

Hank[_6_] January 21st 12 03:54 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 20, 10:55*am, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


why fix something that's not broke? *The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.

Hank ~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!


Steve Barker[_6_] January 21st 12 04:37 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.

Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. fatass!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Harry K January 21st 12 04:59 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 7:51*am, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 12:05*pm, Oren wrote:





On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.


I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.


I would use them If I could :-/


Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.


The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.


I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.

Hank- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. Greatest invention since sliced
bread. Pull and replace toilet without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.

Harry K

Hank[_6_] January 21st 12 05:36 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 11:59*am, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51*am, Hank wrote:





On Jan 20, 12:05*pm, Oren wrote:


On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.


I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.


I would use them If I could :-/


Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.


The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.


I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.


Hank- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. *Greatest invention since sliced
bread. *Pull and replace toilet *without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. *I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.

Harry K


After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.

Hank ~~~~~ going waxless from now on

Hank

TWayne January 21st 12 05:37 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
In ,
Steve Barker typed:
On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve
wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement
for the toilets wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last
forever and do the job simply.

--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an
answer. Your reply was useless and a waste of time for
all. Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the
toilet tight to the floor this time. fatass!


Why a "fatass" claim? What he said was right. You post was a waste of time
and ether.



Steve Barker[_6_] January 21st 12 05:50 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 11:37 AM, Twayne wrote:
In ,
Steve typed:
On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve
wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement
for the toilets wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last
forever and do the job simply.

--
Steve Barker

Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an
answer. Your reply was useless and a waste of time for
all. Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the
toilet tight to the floor this time. fatass!


Why a "fatass" claim? What he said was right. You post was a waste of time
and ether.


because 99 times out of a hundred a loose toilet is because of overly
large people using them. It's just a simple fact.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

[email protected] January 21st 12 09:24 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:37:43 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.

Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. fatass!

Totally uncalled for, Steve. Alternatives to the wax ring are
becoming available for a good reason. The new stuff works. Better than
the wax ring.
I think this is a good forum to discuss these new innovations on.
You don't still drive on steel wheels and drag a stick to stop, or
wipe your ass with your left thumb, do you????

[email protected] January 21st 12 09:26 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:36:23 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

On Jan 21, 11:59Â*am, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51Â*am, Hank wrote:





On Jan 20, 12:05Â*pm, Oren wrote:


On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. Â*I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. Â*I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.


I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.


I would use them If I could :-/


Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.


The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.


I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.


Hank- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. Â*Greatest invention since sliced
bread. Â*Pull and replace toilet Â*without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. Â*I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.

Harry K


After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.

Hank ~~~~~ going waxless from now on

Hank

Up here they ALL have. Home Despot carries them. Home Hardware carries
them, Mark's Supply (big wholesaler) carries them. One-Stop Plumbing
carries them -----------.

[email protected] January 21st 12 09:27 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:50:27 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 1/21/2012 11:37 AM, Twayne wrote:
In ,
Steve typed:
On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve
wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement
for the toilets wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last
forever and do the job simply.

--
Steve Barker

Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an
answer. Your reply was useless and a waste of time for
all. Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the
toilet tight to the floor this time. fatass!


Why a "fatass" claim? What he said was right. You post was a waste of time
and ether.


because 99 times out of a hundred a loose toilet is because of overly
large people using them. It's just a simple fact.


As you are wont to say --- CITE???

Steve Barker[_6_] January 21st 12 10:07 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 3:24 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:37:43 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker

Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.

Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. fatass!

Totally uncalled for, Steve. Alternatives to the wax ring are
becoming available for a good reason. The new stuff works. Better than
the wax ring.
I think this is a good forum to discuss these new innovations on.
You don't still drive on steel wheels and drag a stick to stop, or
wipe your ass with your left thumb, do you????



no, no and no. But the steel wheels do have their advantages on
tractors. The farmers in force when the rubber came along thought it
was a pussified stupid idea. The steel ones still have better traction.
And the was ring still works fine and lasts forever as long as the
toilet does not rock like a rocking horse.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Vic Smith January 21st 12 11:20 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:07:11 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:


no, no and no. But the steel wheels do have their advantages on
tractors. The farmers in force when the rubber came along thought it
was a pussified stupid idea. The steel ones still have better traction.
And the was ring still works fine and lasts forever as long as the
toilet does not rock like a rocking horse.


I never had a wax ring leak.
But the first time I do I'll use the new seals.
There's no guarantee a wax ring will work even if the toilet doesn't
rock. Tile work, etc,
Just use what works. Not a big deal.

--Vic

JimT[_2_] January 21st 12 11:39 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 11:36 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 21, 11:59 am, Harry wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51 am, wrote:





On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?
Hank
I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.
I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.
I would use them If I could :-/
Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.
The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.
I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.
Hank- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. Greatest invention since sliced
bread. Pull and replace toilet without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.

Harry K

After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.

Hank~~~~~ going waxless from now on

Hank


A $10 gasket for one that does the same thing for $1? Oh well. I've been
able to get a wax gasket to work even on bumpy floors. I always have
shims on hand though. Trick is to attach the gasket to the toilet first
and don't rock the toilet. I seat the gasket then use a level and shims
to finish the job.

Tony Miklos[_2_] January 22nd 12 12:39 AM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 5:07 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/21/2012 3:24 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:37:43 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:

Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?

Hank

why fix something that's not broke? The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.

--
Steve Barker

Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.

Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!



Well "DUH" back at ya! Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. fatass!

Totally uncalled for, Steve. Alternatives to the wax ring are
becoming available for a good reason. The new stuff works. Better than
the wax ring.
I think this is a good forum to discuss these new innovations on.
You don't still drive on steel wheels and drag a stick to stop, or
wipe your ass with your left thumb, do you????



no, no and no. But the steel wheels do have their advantages on
tractors. The farmers in force when the rubber came along thought it was
a pussified stupid idea. The steel ones still have better traction. And
the was ring still works fine and lasts forever as long as the toilet
does not rock like a rocking horse.


Wax rings seemed to go bad in old mobile homes a lot. I think if they
are left closed up for a few hot sunny days, it gets so hot inside that
the wax softens, it doesn't quite melt, but it gets soft enough to sag
and loose it's seal. That's just my guess why they go bad, I know the
floors were solid and the toilet didn't wobble.

Oren[_2_] January 22nd 12 12:52 AM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:51:18 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.

Hank


Thanks for posting this brand - Sani Seal (SS).

This is newer than a "waxless" I tried years ago (Fluidmaster).

FM is a well made waxless toilet ring. It would not fit, but the SS
will be my next try. I watched the video and was impressed.

I guess they both prevent sewer gas seeping from below. :-/

Harry K January 22nd 12 05:15 AM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 3:39*pm, JimT wrote:
On 1/21/2012 11:36 AM, Hank wrote:





On Jan 21, 11:59 am, Harry *wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51 am, *wrote:


On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?
Hank
I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.
I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.
I would use them If I could :-/
Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.
The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.
I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.
Hank- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. *Greatest invention since sliced
bread. *Pull and replace toilet *without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. *I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.


Harry K

After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.


Hank~~~~~ going waxless from now on


Hank


A $10 gasket for one that does the same thing for $1? Oh well. I've been
able to get a wax gasket to work even on bumpy floors. I always have
shims on hand though. Trick is to attach the gasket to the toilet first
and don't rock the toilet. I seat the gasket then use a level and shims
to finish the job.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


When your wax ring can be reused as can the waxless type...

Harry K

Harry K January 22nd 12 05:19 AM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 2:07*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/21/2012 3:24 PM, wrote:





On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:37:43 -0600, Steve Barker
*wrote:


On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve * wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


why fix something that's not broke? *The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.


--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.


Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!


Well "DUH" back at ya! *Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. *fatass!

* Totally uncalled for, Steve. *Alternatives to the wax ring are
becoming available for a good reason. The new stuff works. Better than
the wax ring.
I think this is a good forum to discuss these new innovations on.
You don't still drive on steel wheels and drag a stick to stop, or
wipe your ass with your left thumb, do you????


no, no and no. *But the steel wheels do have their advantages on
tractors. *The farmers in force when the rubber came along thought it
was a pussified stupid idea. *The steel ones still have better traction..
* And the was ring still works fine and lasts forever as long as the
toilet does not rock like a rocking horse.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Steel does not have better treaction than rubber. If it did you would
for sure see it being used at tractor pulls. I doubt if you can even
buy new steel wheels for tractors these days.

Harry K

JimT[_2_] January 22nd 12 05:48 AM

Toilet wax ring
 
On 1/21/2012 11:15 PM, Harry K wrote:
On Jan 21, 3:39 pm, wrote:
On 1/21/2012 11:36 AM, Hank wrote:





On Jan 21, 11:59 am, Harry wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51 am, wrote:
On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?
Hank
I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.
I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.
I would use them If I could :-/
Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.
The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.
I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.
Hank- Hide quoted text -
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I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. Greatest invention since sliced
bread. Pull and replace toilet without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.
Harry K
After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.
Hank~~~~~ going waxless from now on
Hank

A $10 gasket for one that does the same thing for $1? Oh well. I've been
able to get a wax gasket to work even on bumpy floors. I always have
shims on hand though. Trick is to attach the gasket to the toilet first
and don't rock the toilet. I seat the gasket then use a level and shims
to finish the job.- Hide quoted text -

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When your wax ring can be reused as can the waxless type...

Harry K


Change a lot of toilets do ya?

Hank[_6_] January 22nd 12 12:25 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 6:39*pm, JimT wrote:
On 1/21/2012 11:36 AM, Hank wrote:





On Jan 21, 11:59 am, Harry *wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51 am, *wrote:


On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?
Hank
I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.
I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.
I would use them If I could :-/
Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.
The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.
I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.
Hank- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. *Greatest invention since sliced
bread. *Pull and replace toilet *without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. *I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.


Harry K

After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.


Hank~~~~~ going waxless from now on


Hank


A $10 gasket for one that does the same thing for $1? Oh well. I've been
able to get a wax gasket to work even on bumpy floors. I always have
shims on hand though. Trick is to attach the gasket to the toilet first
and don't rock the toilet. I seat the gasket then use a level and shims
to finish the job.


I get your point. I guess if a person has the experience of installing
wax rings, then go for the $1 wax ring. But for those of us who are
DIY'ers and don't want to learn the "trick" (as you put it), this may
be a better solution. I have to wonder how many wax rings have been
installed incorrectly only to have to pull the toilet and do it again?
How many trips to the store to get another wax ring after a person
screws up the first one? The $1 wax ring could end up costing you more
in gas and time than the $10. But, to each their own.

Hank ~~~~~ not a sani-seal rep :-)

Hank[_6_] January 22nd 12 12:29 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 7:52*pm, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:51:18 -0800 (PST), Hank
wrote:

I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.


Hank


Thanks for posting this brand - Sani Seal (SS).

This is newer than a "waxless" I tried years ago (Fluidmaster).

FM is a well made waxless toilet ring. It would not fit, but the SS
will be my next try. I watched the video and was impressed.

I guess they both prevent sewer gas seeping from below. :-/


You're welcome. My original intent was to find someone who has used
this specific product. Since I didn't find them here, I thought I
would try it anyway. At the rsik of jinxing myself, it seems to be
working fine and very forgiving in the install.

Hank

Harry K January 22nd 12 04:06 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Jan 21, 9:48*pm, JimT wrote:
On 1/21/2012 11:15 PM, Harry K wrote:





On Jan 21, 3:39 pm, *wrote:
On 1/21/2012 11:36 AM, Hank wrote:


On Jan 21, 11:59 am, Harry * *wrote:
On Jan 21, 7:51 am, * *wrote:
On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, * *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:40:51 -0800, * *wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:40:44 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?
Hank
I would love to use them as they use an O-ring and can be reused when
to fixture is removed. *I tried one in the master bath, but the drain
pipe has a shallow sweep. *I could not get the unit to seat deep
enough to flush with the floor.
I haven't checked to see if they have modified these waxless units to
work in that situation.
I would use them If I could :-/
Meant to say, the one I tried was a Fluidmaster brand that inserted
into the pipe. Even adjustable I could not get it short enough.
The Sani-Seal looks like a good product and is short, but without the
O-ring.
I ordered the Sani-seal a couple days ago and got it yesterday. No
leaks yet, but time will tell. This product is very user friendly,
easy to install and looks like it will do the job. As of now, I highly
suggest it instead of the wax ring.
Hank- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I can't speak to the "sani - seal" but I have used a 'waxless toilet
seal', don't recall the brand name. *Greatest invention since sliced
bread. *Pull and replace toilet *without changing it, no scraping
cruddy wax, no residue left on floor when toilet is pulled, etc. *I
don't know why anyone would use the wax ones except in cases such as
Oren mentioned.
Harry K
After going to Home Depot, Lowes, and the local hardware and plumbing
supply stores, except for Lowes, no one in my area (Central Ohio), had
anything other than the wax ring. They had tons of those. Lowes
carried one waxless type but I didn't like the way it worked. Maybe
the price is why, I don't know. Just seemed strange to me that even
the plumbing supply stores had nevedr even heard of waxless rings.
Hank~~~~~ going waxless from now on
Hank
A $10 gasket for one that does the same thing for $1? Oh well. I've been
able to get a wax gasket to work even on bumpy floors. I always have
shims on hand though. Trick is to attach the gasket to the toilet first
and don't rock the toilet. I seat the gasket then use a level and shims
to finish the job.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -

When your wax ring can be reused as can the waxless type...


Harry K


Change a lot of toilets do ya?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, but the one I used it on around 15 years ago has been pulled once
and re-installed. No mess, no scraping, now wriggling around trying
to get it solid, no shimming, etc. Guess some people are too enamored
of the old way of doing things. Still driving a Model T are you?

Harry K

[email protected] January 22nd 12 09:05 PM

Toilet wax ring
 
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:19:02 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:

On Jan 21, 2:07Â*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/21/2012 3:24 PM, wrote:





On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:37:43 -0600, Steve Barker
Â*wrote:


On 1/21/2012 9:54 AM, Hank wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:55 am, Steve Â* wrote:
On 1/20/2012 9:40 AM, Hank wrote:


Has anybody tried the "Sani-Seal" no wax replacement for the toilets
wax ring?


Hank


why fix something that's not broke? Â*The wax seals last forever and do
the job simply.


--
Steve Barker


Unlike you, I ask a question because I want to find an answer. Your
reply was useless and a waste of time for all.


Hank~~~~~ had a leaking wax ring...............duh!


Well "DUH" back at ya! Â*Try a new was ring and keep the toilet tight to
the floor this time. Â*fatass!
Â* Totally uncalled for, Steve. Â*Alternatives to the wax ring are
becoming available for a good reason. The new stuff works. Better than
the wax ring.
I think this is a good forum to discuss these new innovations on.
You don't still drive on steel wheels and drag a stick to stop, or
wipe your ass with your left thumb, do you????


no, no and no. Â*But the steel wheels do have their advantages on
tractors. Â*The farmers in force when the rubber came along thought it
was a pussified stupid idea. Â*The steel ones still have better traction.
Â* And the was ring still works fine and lasts forever as long as the
toilet does not rock like a rocking horse.

--
Steve Barker
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Steel does not have better treaction than rubber. If it did you would
for sure see it being used at tractor pulls. I doubt if you can even
buy new steel wheels for tractors these days.

Harry K

Under VERY LIMITTED conditions steel cleated wheels can have better
traction than rubber, but in the VAST MAJORITY of situations one would
encounter with a farm tractor, rubber wins hands down.

However, I was not talking tractors. I was talking basic
transportation. Yes, some of the very conservative Amish sects still
run on iron tires on their buggies - where traction is not an issue -
and a few still run with steel wheels on tractors - believe it or
not..

Most of the world has progressed though, to using rubber tires (and
even air filled), use friction brakes to stop, and use toilet paper to
wipe their hiney.

Progress happens.


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