This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."


---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

On Nov 27, 11:24*am, Red Green wrote:
This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

We've always had these drones, even in my generation. Trouble is, they
bred more rapidly to produce a larger segment of the population. And
they vote, with the catastrophic results we now have.
The pendulum will swing, and the results won't be PC nor pretty.
Pepper spray at the UC-Davis campus is one small beginning; there will
be still more as the real costs of the stupidity exceed public common
sense tolerance of bad behavior.
My suggestion to the fools is to show their cojones by occupying
Sturgis next summer.

Joe

On Nov 27, 9:24*am, Red Green wrote:
This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? That sounds very condescending. We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up & smell the cyanide!

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.


HB

On Nov 28, 1:54*am, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Nov 27, 9:24*am, Red Green wrote:





This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? *That sounds very condescending. *We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.


Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? *Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. *Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up & smell the cyanide!


These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. *It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

On Nov 28, 11:02*am, BobR wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:54*am, Higgs Boson wrote:









On Nov 27, 9:24*am, Red Green wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? *That sounds very condescending. *We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? *Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. *Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up & smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. *It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?
From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB

On 11/28/2011 4:32 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:02 am, wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:54 am, Higgs wrote:









On Nov 27, 9:24 am, Red wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom& Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? That sounds very condescending. We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up& smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?
From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB

and it appears the 99 ers are failing royally.

On Nov 28, 3:32*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:02*am, BobR wrote:





On Nov 28, 1:54*am, Higgs Boson wrote:

On Nov 27, 9:24*am, Red Green wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? *That sounds very condescending. *We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? *Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. *Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up & smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. *It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?

No, didn't even remotely imply that I was but then you either knew
that and simply decided to be an ass.

From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB-

Information? No, just Bull****. No shift at all, just a bunch of
lunatics with nothing better to do.

On Nov 28, 5:24*pm, tel0prompter wrote:
On 11/28/2011 4:32 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:





On Nov 28, 11:02 am, *wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:54 am, Higgs *wrote:

On Nov 27, 9:24 am, Red *wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom& *Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? *That sounds very condescending. *We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? *Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. *Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up& *smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. *It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?
*From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB

and it appears the 99 ers are failing royally.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The "99"ers were never representing the other 99% just the 1% at the
opposite end of the scale and even that was a farce.

On Nov 28, 3:32*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Nov 28, 11:02*am, BobR wrote:





On Nov 28, 1:54*am, Higgs Boson wrote:

On Nov 27, 9:24*am, Red Green wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom & Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? *That sounds very condescending. *We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? *Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. *Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up & smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. *It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?
From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://www.theunlikelyconservative.com/

We've been asked not to feed the trolls.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"BobR" wrote in message
...

Information? No, just Bull****. No shift at all, just a
bunch of
lunatics with nothing better to do.

On 11/28/2011 5:45 PM, BobR wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:24 pm, wrote:
On 11/28/2011 4:32 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:





On Nov 28, 11:02 am, wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:54 am, Higgs wrote:

On Nov 27, 9:24 am, Red wrote:

This guy should get some kind of writing award for this. I posted a reply
and asked him if he's really Andy Rooney posting from the grave.

---------------------------------

The OWS Youth Perspective:

"I have grown up in a world where it is politically incorrect and socially
unacceptable for anyone to be better, faster, stronger or smarter than
anyone else, a world where every kid on every team gets a trophy and nobody
get's a bad grade at school. My parents behave like children themselves and
borrowed through home equity loans and credit card debt to fund a lifestyle
beyond our family's true means to support. They demanded no accounatbility
from me and have protected my feelings at all costs. I have been given
everything I ever asked for. I never had a summer job. I never saw anyone
"save up" for anything. I take technology for granted. I have no
understanding of history, morals, or values.
Now that the credit bubble has burst and Mom& Dad can't protect me anymore
I am clueless as to how to make my way in the world so I will do what I
have always done: I will whine and complain that it's "no fair" until I get
what I want."

---------------------------------
Chester [on Yahoo]
This person has hidden their profile.

***How do you know the Occupiers fit the profile you have
constructed? That sounds very condescending. We should be grateful
that these brave young people had the cojones to get out there and at
least TRY to bring attention to the criminal shafting we have been
getting for the last 'n'years from a plutocracy that is swiftly and
systematically reducing us to peon status.

Brave? young people my ass.

Didn't you notice that from its tiny beginnings, the Movement quickly
spread all over the country and abroad? Some people don't get the
message until the safe falls on their heads. Things are NOT the same
as back where your thinking is stuck. Wake up& smell the cyanide!

These bunch of morons would follow the Pied Piper right into hell.

Note that it has always been a favorite technique of exploiters
everywhere to send in agents provocateurs to give the [cause] a bad
name so they can denounce it so that oblivious, stuck-in-the-past
types like your good self can react against it. It's classic!

Note also that, last time I looked, we still have a few scraps of
freedom left (going, going, going...) so that anarchists and othe
nasties ARE free to join -- and mess up-- well-intentioned movements.

HB

Yes by all means speak your mind but don't expect the rest of the
world to just automatically accept and agree with your crap.

***I gather you are speaking for the "rest of the world"?
From your response -- calling information "crap" I see that you did
not understand that we are in what they used to call a "paradigm
shift".
Some people can anticipate and adjust; others cannot.

HB

and it appears the 99 ers are failing royally.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The "99"ers were never representing the other 99% just the 1% at the
opposite end of the scale and even that was a farce.

It's quite funny how the P.L.L.C.F. crowd vilifies the banks and
corporations while ignoring the excesses of the elite they worship
so much as they spend taxpayer money like drunken sailors on all
the jumbo jet flights all over the country and the world. Of course
The Messiah needs his golf game to clear his mind while he struggles
with the weight of the world on his shoulders. ^_^

TDD

"The Daring Dufas" wrote

schmatta skipped

It's quite funny how the P.L.L.C.F. crowd vilifies the banks and
corporations while ignoring the excesses of the elite they worship
so much as they spend taxpayer money like drunken sailors on all
the jumbo jet flights all over the country and the world. Of course
The Messiah needs his golf game to clear his mind while he struggles
with the weight of the world on his shoulders. ^_^

It's even funnier how so many people find fault with those they dislike but
overlook the same faults in people they like:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4735360.shtml

The Bush Legacy:

National Debt Increase: $4.9 trillion.

National Debt as of Jan. 15, 2009: $10.6 trillion
Debt when Mr. Bush took office: $5.7 trillion
(Source: U.S. Treasury Dept.)

Number Of All Sporting Events Attended: 98

Number of Cabinet Meetings: 49

Number Of Visits To Camp David: 149, totaling all or part of 487 days.

Number Of Visits To His Texas Ranch: 77, totaling all or part of 490 days.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/0...4226,072-a-Pop


Estimates the cost of those flights:

. . . dimbulbs are still nattering about the cost of this [Obama's] day
trip. Never mind that President Obama has been working for five months
without a vacation, unlike the most vacationing president ever, Junior W.
Bush. Try to google the cost of those 77 trips to Crawford TX on Air Force
One and the information is nowhere to be found. Because it was never
reported. I had to calculate the costs myself.
At a bare minimum, for the flights alone, Bush's 77 vacation trips to
Crawford cost us $226,072 per trip.

That's $17,407,544 so he could ride his bicycle in the woods and clear brush
for the cameras.

The minimum cost per trip to Crawford TX is $226,072. That's just the
estimated cost of flying Air Force One round trip - about two hours of
flight time each way at $56,518 per hour.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents...3550-47530.pdf

THE COST OF PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICAL TRAVEL
PREPARED FOR
REP. HENRY A.WAXMAN
This report assumes that flight operating costs are $56,518 per hour for Air
Force One and $14,552 per hour for Air Force Two. These figures are based on
the per hour cost figures cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000, adjusted for
inflation.

According to the Congressional Research Service, the President's domestic
travel also involves the use of accompanying cargo planes. This report
assumes one cargo plane accompanies the President on each trip at an
operating cost per hour of $6,960. This figure is based on the per-hour cost
cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000 for the C-17 cargo plane, adjusted for
inflation.

Factcheck says:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/pre...vacation-days/

President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential
mansion in the nation's capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation"
trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of
them - all or part of 69 days - came during his first year as president in
2001, according to Knoller.

Nice work if you can get it. I'd like to get a job that comes with 10 weeks
of vacation in the 1st year.

So Dufe, before you start throwing rocks, better look around carefully to
make sure you're not smack in the middle of a big glass house. Bush could
have saved a lot of taxpayer money by spending less time away from the
Whitehouse. That $17 MILLION bill, BTW, is grossly underestimated because
of all the security that had to be maintained at both the Whitehouse AND
Crawford. It's just the bare minimum figure.

I'm sure, by the way you're constantly critical of Obama, that you think you
could do the job without any need for any kind of R&R like golf. I'm also
sure that you believe that you'd have the economy mended and the free world
all patched up by now. To that I say: "Those who can, do, those who cannot,
teach and those that can do neither post to Usenet."

--
Bobby G.

On Nov 30, 10:46*am, "Robert Green"
wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote

schmatta skipped

It's quite funny how the P.L.L.C.F. crowd vilifies the banks and
corporations while ignoring the excesses of the elite they worship
so much as they spend taxpayer money like drunken sailors on all
the jumbo jet flights all over the country and the world. Of course
The Messiah needs his golf game to clear his mind while he struggles
with the weight of the world on his shoulders. ^_^

It's even funnier how so many people find fault with those they dislike but
overlook the same faults in people they like:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/..._legacy/main47...

The Bush Legacy:

National Debt Increase: $4.9 trillion.

National Debt as of Jan. 15, 2009: $10.6 trillion
Debt when Mr. Bush took office: $5.7 trillion
(Source: U.S. Treasury Dept.)

And a mere 2 1/2 years after Obama took office the National Debt has
soared to $14.3 trillion dollars as of June 30. At that rate Obama
will see the debt increase to over $16 trillion dollars by the end of
his first (and hopefully last) term. That will exceed Bush's increase
of 8 years in just 4 years.

However, it is Congress that has spent the money not the President, or
at least it wasn't until Obama took control.

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and
the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the
Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for FY 2008 &
FY 2009 as well as FY 2010 & FY 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused
them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough
on spending increases.

For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush
entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running
until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a
massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that
very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he
signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. The largest
deficit during the Bush Administration was just over $400 billion.
The largest under the Obama Administration stands at $1.75 Trillion
dollars.

But to be fair, I do blame Bush for not telling the Democrats in
Congress to go screw themselves and holding down the debt during his
administration.


Number Of All Sporting Events Attended: 98

Number of Cabinet Meetings: 49

Number Of Visits To Camp David: 149, totaling all or part of 487 days.

Number Of Visits To His Texas Ranch: 77, totaling all or part of 490 days..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/0...ade-77-Trips-t...

Estimates the cost of those flights:

. . . dimbulbs are still nattering about the cost of this [Obama's] day
trip. Never mind that President Obama has been working for five months
without a vacation, unlike the most vacationing president ever, Junior W.
Bush. Try to google the cost of those 77 trips to Crawford TX on Air Force
One and the information is nowhere to be found. Because it was never
reported. I had to calculate the costs myself.
At a bare minimum, for the flights alone, Bush's 77 vacation trips to
Crawford cost us $226,072 per trip.

That's $17,407,544 so he could ride his bicycle in the woods and clear brush
for the cameras.

The minimum cost per trip *to Crawford TX is $226,072. That's just the
estimated cost of flying Air Force One round trip - about two hours of
flight time each way at $56,518 per hour.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents...3550-47530.pdf

THE COST OF PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICAL TRAVEL
PREPARED FOR
REP. HENRY A.WAXMAN
This report assumes that flight operating costs are $56,518 per hour for Air
Force One and $14,552 per hour for Air Force Two. These figures are based on
the per hour cost figures cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000, adjusted for
inflation.

According to the Congressional Research Service, the President's domestic
travel also involves the use of accompanying cargo planes. This report
assumes one cargo plane accompanies the President on each trip at an
operating cost per hour of $6,960. This figure is based on the per-hour cost
cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000 for the C-17 cargo plane, adjusted for
inflation.

Factcheck says:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/pre...vacation-days/

President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential
mansion in the nation's capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation"
trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of
them - all or part of 69 days - came during his first year as president in
2001, according to Knoller.


Really? Is it really a "Vacation" to go home for a few days? Is it
really a "Vacation" when you are still attending to business even
while you are HOME?

Give me a friggen break.


Nice work if you can get it. *I'd like to get a job that comes with 10 weeks
of vacation in the 1st year.

So Dufe, before you start throwing rocks, better look around carefully to
make sure you're not smack in the middle of a big glass house. *Bush could
have saved a lot of taxpayer money by spending less time away from the
Whitehouse. *That $17 MILLION bill, BTW, is grossly underestimated because
of all the security that had to be maintained at both the Whitehouse AND
Crawford. *It's just the bare minimum figure.


I think you might consider taking your own advice.


I'm sure, by the way you're constantly critical of Obama, that you think you
could do the job without any need for any kind of R&R like golf. *I'm also
sure that you believe that you'd have the economy mended and the free world
all patched up by now. *To that I say: "Those who can, do, those who cannot,
teach and those that can do neither post to Usenet."

So that explains why you are pointing to Usenet!


--
Bobby G.


Obama is a dumbass that is starting to make Bush look really smart.

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:28:53 -0800 (PST), BobR
wrote:



Obama is a dumbass that is starting to make Bush look really smart.

Don't you mean Jimmy Carter? :-/

On Nov 30, 3:38*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:28:53 -0800 (PST), BobR

wrote:

Obama is a dumbass that is starting to make Bush look really smart.

Don't you mean Jimmy Carter? :-/

That is a bit more difficult but he is getting there. I still
remember the misery index of the Carter years and the stupid price
controls that just increased inflation. So no, he still hasn't made
Carter look smart, just a little less stupid.

On 11/30/2011 10:46 AM, Robert Green wrote:
"The Daring wrote

schmatta skipped

It's quite funny how the P.L.L.C.F. crowd vilifies the banks and
corporations while ignoring the excesses of the elite they worship
so much as they spend taxpayer money like drunken sailors on all
the jumbo jet flights all over the country and the world. Of course
The Messiah needs his golf game to clear his mind while he struggles
with the weight of the world on his shoulders. ^_^

It's even funnier how so many people find fault with those they dislike but
overlook the same faults in people they like:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4735360.shtml

The Bush Legacy:

National Debt Increase: $4.9 trillion.

National Debt as of Jan. 15, 2009: $10.6 trillion
Debt when Mr. Bush took office: $5.7 trillion
(Source: U.S. Treasury Dept.)

Number Of All Sporting Events Attended: 98

Number of Cabinet Meetings: 49

Number Of Visits To Camp David: 149, totaling all or part of 487 days.

Number Of Visits To His Texas Ranch: 77, totaling all or part of 490 days.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/0...4226,072-a-Pop


Estimates the cost of those flights:

. . . dimbulbs are still nattering about the cost of this [Obama's] day
trip. Never mind that President Obama has been working for five months
without a vacation, unlike the most vacationing president ever, Junior W.
Bush. Try to google the cost of those 77 trips to Crawford TX on Air Force
One and the information is nowhere to be found. Because it was never
reported. I had to calculate the costs myself.
At a bare minimum, for the flights alone, Bush's 77 vacation trips to
Crawford cost us $226,072 per trip.

That's $17,407,544 so he could ride his bicycle in the woods and clear brush
for the cameras.

The minimum cost per trip to Crawford TX is $226,072. That's just the
estimated cost of flying Air Force One round trip - about two hours of
flight time each way at $56,518 per hour.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents...3550-47530.pdf

THE COST OF PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICAL TRAVEL
PREPARED FOR
REP. HENRY A.WAXMAN
This report assumes that flight operating costs are $56,518 per hour for Air
Force One and $14,552 per hour for Air Force Two. These figures are based on
the per hour cost figures cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000, adjusted for
inflation.

According to the Congressional Research Service, the President's domestic
travel also involves the use of accompanying cargo planes. This report
assumes one cargo plane accompanies the President on each trip at an
operating cost per hour of $6,960. This figure is based on the per-hour cost
cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000 for the C-17 cargo plane, adjusted for
inflation.

Factcheck says:

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/pre...vacation-days/

President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential
mansion in the nation's capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation"
trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of
them - all or part of 69 days - came during his first year as president in
2001, according to Knoller.

Nice work if you can get it. I'd like to get a job that comes with 10 weeks
of vacation in the 1st year.

So Dufe, before you start throwing rocks, better look around carefully to
make sure you're not smack in the middle of a big glass house. Bush could
have saved a lot of taxpayer money by spending less time away from the
Whitehouse. That $17 MILLION bill, BTW, is grossly underestimated because
of all the security that had to be maintained at both the Whitehouse AND
Crawford. It's just the bare minimum figure.

I'm sure, by the way you're constantly critical of Obama, that you think you
could do the job without any need for any kind of R&R like golf. I'm also
sure that you believe that you'd have the economy mended and the free world
all patched up by now. To that I say: "Those who can, do, those who cannot,
teach and those that can do neither post to Usenet."

--
Bobby G.


Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, how many times do I have to explain to you that I'm
not a Republican? Republicans disgust me but Democrats are special,
they horrify me. ^_^

TDD