Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

As the Army says:

If it walks shoot it.
If it talks, salute it.
If it doesn't move, paint it green.

As congress says:

If it works, outlaw it.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. Not in the
Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a
scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as
we know it. As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of
light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that
general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved,
incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

On Nov 14, 1:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and
will hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and
enforce the rules. At that point I will finally be willing to invite
them to wipe my ass for me but until then get your damn regulations
off my back and out of my house.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:05:44 -0800, BobR wrote:
So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

Depressing, isn't it?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and will
hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and enforce
the rules.

It'll be Made-in-China electronic toilet paper, too - the equivalent of
wiping your ass on a Kindle...

On Nov 14, 6:13*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:05:44 -0800, BobR wrote:
So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

Depressing, isn't it?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and will
hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and enforce
the rules.

It'll be Made-in-China electronic toilet paper, too - the equivalent of
wiping your ass on a Kindle...

So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?


Yes thats what you get when Wallmart led the charge over seas to get
you cheaper products .

On Nov 14, 7:21*pm, jim wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:13*pm, Jules Richardson

wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:05:44 -0800, BobR wrote:
So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

Depressing, isn't it?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and will
hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and enforce
the rules.

It'll be Made-in-China electronic toilet paper, too - the equivalent of
wiping your ass on a Kindle...

*So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can

transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

Yes thats what you get when Wallmart led the charge over seas to get
you cheaper products .

Walmart simply gave the majority of people exactly what they wanted,
cheap products at a cheap price. Most people don't care where its
produced, rather its of quality or not so long as it's CHEAP.

Meh. Wal-Mart is just giving their customers what they demand: the cheapest products possible, regardless of their cost to our souls.

On Nov 14, 6:13*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:05:44 -0800, BobR wrote:
So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

Depressing, isn't it?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and will
hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and enforce
the rules.

It'll be Made-in-China electronic toilet paper, too - the equivalent of
wiping your ass on a Kindle...

Other then in a cold room what is the problem it is only a light bulb

First they came for the light bulbs, and I didn't speak up
because I had CFL.
Then, they came for the gasoline, turning it to gasohol. I
didn't speak up, because I could still drive.
Then, they came for the R-12 freon, and I didn't speak up
because I had R-134a.
Then, they came for the assault weapons, and I didn't speak
up because I'm a hunter.
Then, they came to microchip my dog, and I didn't speak up
because I'm not a dog.
Then, they came for me. I was sitting in the dark, my car
wouldn't start, I had warm beer, I was out of ammo, and what
the heck, I needed a microchip in my right hand to buy more
beer.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"jim" wrote in message
...


It'll be Made-in-China electronic toilet paper, too - the
equivalent of
wiping your ass on a Kindle...

Other then in a cold room what is the problem it is only a
light bulb

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:43:29 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

First they came for the light bulbs, and I didn't speak up
because I had CFL.
Then, they came for the gasoline, turning it to gasohol. I
didn't speak up, because I could still drive.
Then, they came for the R-12 freon, and I didn't speak up
because I had R-134a.
Then, they came for the assault weapons, and I didn't speak
up because I'm a hunter.
Then, they came to microchip my dog, and I didn't speak up
because I'm not a dog.
Then, they came for me. I was sitting in the dark, my car
wouldn't start, I had warm beer, I was out of ammo, and what
the heck, I needed a microchip in my right hand to buy more
beer.

Excellent!

On Nov 14, 3:05*pm, BobR wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

So what is next on the governments list of let's end this so we can
transfer all the production to China, India, or someplace else?

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and
will hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and
enforce the rules.

***The bidet people are behind this, mark my words!

HB

[...]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:57:09 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson
wrote:

I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and
will hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and
enforce the rules.

***The bidet people are behind this, mark my words!

HB

_Sheryl Crow’s solution to deforestation: Wipe with one square of TP_

On Nov 15, 11:04*am, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:57:09 -0800 (PST), Higgs Boson

wrote:
I expect any day now they will set a new rule in place that you are
limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when you take a crap and
will hire thousands of watchdog government employees to watch you and
enforce the rules.

***The bidet people are behind this, mark my words!

HB

_Sheryl Crow’s solution to deforestation: Wipe with one square of TP_

I would bet a years pay that what she says and what she does are two
very different things.

I wouldn't take/lose that bed, even with odds.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"BobR" wrote in message
...


_Sheryl Crow's solution to deforestation: Wipe with one
square of TP_

I would bet a years pay that what she says and what she does
are two
very different things.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:05:01 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/



No time to read it. I have to run to the store to pick up something.
Maybe a dozen somethings.

On Nov 14, 7:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

harry wrote:

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

"But," you may say, "CFLs reduce our demand for electricity!" Yes, and
computers, electric cars, and a mania for toasted strawberry pop-tarts
continues to drive demand up. More power generation will be needed next week
or next year. At best, limiting consumer choices by mandating CFLs or
prune-flavored poptarts merely delays the real solution.

And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong
problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem
at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many
incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

"But," you may say, "CFLs reduce our demand for
electricity!" Yes, and
computers, electric cars, and a mania for toasted strawberry
pop-tarts
continues to drive demand up. More power generation will be
needed next week
or next year. At best, limiting consumer choices by
mandating CFLs or
prune-flavored poptarts merely delays the real solution.

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:17:44 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

Don't forget that little pipeline from Canuckistan.

I doubt the pipeline would be needed, if we had our own
drilling and refineries. And the Alaska pipline put into
full service.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:17:44 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

Don't forget that little pipeline from Canuckistan.

On Nov 15, 12:17*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

m...

It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong
problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem
at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many
incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

"But," you may say, "CFLs reduce our demand for
electricity!" Yes, and
computers, electric cars, and a mania for toasted strawberry
pop-tarts
continues to drive demand up. More power generation will be
needed next week
or next year. At best, limiting consumer choices by
mandating CFLs or
prune-flavored poptarts merely delays the real solution.

Which is?

On Nov 15, 9:11*am, harry wrote:
On Nov 15, 12:17*pm, "Stormin Mormon"





wrote:
And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

om...

It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong
problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem
at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many
incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

"But," you may say, "CFLs reduce our demand for
electricity!" Yes, and
computers, electric cars, and a mania for toasted strawberry
pop-tarts
continues to drive demand up. More power generation will be
needed next week
or next year. At best, limiting consumer choices by
mandating CFLs or
prune-flavored poptarts merely delays the real solution.

Which is?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Getting the idiots who run a totally disfunctional government out of
the business of micromanaging every aspect of our lives.

harry wrote:
On Nov 15, 12:17 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"HeyBub" wrote in message

m...

It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong
problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem
at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many
incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

"But," you may say, "CFLs reduce our demand for
electricity!" Yes, and
computers, electric cars, and a mania for toasted strawberry
pop-tarts
continues to drive demand up. More power generation will be
needed next week
or next year. At best, limiting consumer choices by
mandating CFLs or
prune-flavored poptarts merely delays the real solution.

Which is?

Duh! Build more power plants (and I don't mean wind, geothermal, or trying
to run this country off of sunbeams).

Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

Less than 1% of the oil consumed in the U.S. is used for electric power
generation.

On 11/15/2011 10:46 AM, HeyBub wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, the need for more petroleum refineries. And drilling
and pumping oil from the US areas, including off shore.

Less than 1% of the oil consumed in the U.S. is used for electric power
generation.


Not to mention that the US actually exports more oil than it imports.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:21:44 AM UTC-5, HeyBub wrote:
It's the silliness of government trying to solve the wrong problem, which,
if they stayed completely out of it, wouldn't be a problem at all.

In the instant case, the difficulty is not too many incandescent bulbs; the
problem is too few power plants.

Fair enough—I'm willing to bet our tech sucks up more electricity than our light bulbs.

But let's be clear: the problem is our inability/unwillingness to create the least environmentally detrimental power system. Oil and coal plants generate mega-tons of pollutants and toxic metal by-products (with no "half-life, by the way: mercury is still toxic millennia later); nuclear plants' fuel is dangerous, as is the general construction of them in, oh, I don't know, earthquake- and tsunami-prone areas; hydroelectric dams interfere with the natural flow of fish and other water life; solar requires too many acres/miles^2 to generate too little wattage; and wind farms fluctuate too much (not to mention they're going to attack us someday: http://xkcd.com/556/)

There are two ways to tackle the issue, kinda like a home budget - increase revenue/generation or decrease spending/consumption. At least light bulbs are a step in one direction.

On Nov 15, 3:43*am, harry wrote:
On Nov 14, 7:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of *the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Actually, Americans are more than willing to accept the new technology
when it truely represents something better but totally resent having
those decisions dictated to them. When a new technology reaches the
point that it becomes the most viable solution, people will naturally
accept it without having the government shove it up their ass. Until
that point is reached, it should not be the position of government to
force the issue when in many cases they are doing a great deal of harm
rather than good.

Hear, hear!

Written like a true free market conservative.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"BobR"
wrote in message
...

When a new technology reaches the point that
it becomes the most viable solution, people will
naturally accept it without having the government
shove it up their ass.

On Nov 15, 4:46*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Hear, hear!

Written like a true free market conservative.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"BobR"
wrote in ...

When a new technology reaches the point that
it becomes the most viable solution, people will
naturally accept it without having the government
shove it up their ass.

Well we've all seen where "free market" forces gets us.
And you want moreof it nincompoop?
The "free market" is not run for your benifit. Haven't you worked that
out yet?

harry wrote:

Well we've all seen where "free market" forces gets us.
And you want moreof it nincompoop?
The "free market" is not run for your benifit. Haven't you worked that
out yet?

But there's nothing preventing me from taking advantage of the free market,
no matter how it is constructed.

On Nov 16, 1:10*am, harry wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:46*pm, "Stormin Mormon"





wrote:
Hear, hear!

Written like a true free market conservative.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"BobR"
wrote in ...

When a new technology reaches the point that
it becomes the most viable solution, people will
naturally accept it without having the government
shove it up their ass.

Well we've all seen where "free market" forces gets us.
And you want moreof it nincompoop?
The "free market" is not run for your benifit. Haven't you worked that
out yet?-

There is no "Free Market" and there never has been. The government
has been screwing up the free market for decades and each time they
have things have only gotten worse. You are not seeing the results of
a free market, you are seeing the results of a government run by a
bunch of burro-crap idiots that attempts to micromanage every aspect
of the economy while not haveing enought common sense to balance their
own damn checkbook.

On Nov 15, 10:46*am, BobR wrote:
On Nov 15, 3:43*am, harry wrote:



On Nov 14, 7:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it.. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of *the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Actually, Americans are more than willing to accept the new technology
when it truely represents something better but totally resent having
those decisions dictated to them. *When a new technology reaches the
point that it becomes the most viable solution, people will naturally
accept it without having the government shove it up their ass. *Until
that point is reached, it should not be the position of government to
force the issue when in many cases they are doing a great deal of harm
rather than good.

A-lamps may consume more energy but they are not toxic to the
environment when they burn out and get thrown away... CFL's are
not the answer...

Perhaps one day when LED based lamps come down in price...

As far as the "new technology" argumentation -- people don't mind
adopting new technologies, the problem is whey greedy oil barons
buy up patents on new alternative energy systems and strangle
the development of energy technologies which diverge away from
using oil...

Ford could start production anytime (they have had this technology
since the late 1990's and have even tested it on large private fleets
so it does work just as well as gasoline) on vehicles which need only
5 parts under the hood different from current production models
for the current ICE based power plant to burn hydrogen gas...

Hybrid cars are wonderful, but they pollute -- producing the battery
causes pollution, then if/when the battery fails because of the
usage pattern of the vehicle or adverse environmental conditions,
the cost of replacing the battery is so much that most people
will trash the car...

So why has this not happened yet ? Patents and contracts,
fueling station operators are prohibited by contract from selling
any other fuels than the ones provided to them through their
supply chain...

Good new ideas exist for paths into the future -- no one in
Congress, business or the scientific community is powerful
enough to go up against the oil companies...

~~ Evan

On Nov 15, 4:35*pm, Evan wrote:
On Nov 15, 10:46*am, BobR wrote:





On Nov 15, 3:43*am, harry wrote:

On Nov 14, 7:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of *the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Actually, Americans are more than willing to accept the new technology
when it truely represents something better but totally resent having
those decisions dictated to them. *When a new technology reaches the
point that it becomes the most viable solution, people will naturally
accept it without having the government shove it up their ass. *Until
that point is reached, it should not be the position of government to
force the issue when in many cases they are doing a great deal of harm
rather than good.

A-lamps may consume more energy but they are not toxic to the
environment when they burn out and get thrown away... *CFL's are
not the answer...

Perhaps one day when LED based lamps come down in price...

As far as the "new technology" argumentation -- people don't mind
adopting new technologies, the problem is whey greedy oil barons
buy up patents on new alternative energy systems and strangle
the development of energy technologies which diverge away from
using oil...

Ford could start production anytime (they have had this technology
since the late 1990's and have even tested it on large private fleets
so it does work just as well as gasoline) on vehicles which need only
5 parts under the hood different from current production models
for the current ICE based power plant to burn hydrogen gas...

Hybrid cars are wonderful, but they pollute -- producing the battery
causes pollution, then if/when the battery fails because of the
usage pattern of the vehicle or adverse environmental conditions,
the cost of replacing the battery is so much that most people
will trash the car...

So why has this not happened yet ? *Patents and contracts,
fueling station operators are prohibited by contract from selling
any other fuels than the ones provided to them through their
supply chain...

Good new ideas exist for paths into the future -- no one in
Congress, business or the scientific community is powerful
enough to go up against the oil companies...

~~ Evan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Only f***g half wit Yanks "throw stuff away". elsewhere, they are
recycled and the mercury is recovered for reuse.

Politicians and big business are hand in glove to rip off the masses/
99%.

harry wrote:

Only f***g half wit Yanks "throw stuff away". elsewhere, they are
recycled and the mercury is recovered for reuse.

That's the most bizarre thing I've heard so far today. What process could
economically recover five milligrams of mercury from a CFL?

Unless you're talking about small children in Sri Lanka scraping the broken
glass with a scalpel...


Politicians and big business are hand in glove to rip off the masses/
99%.

Who else would you have them rip off?

On Nov 15, 3:46*pm, BobR wrote:
On Nov 15, 3:43*am, harry wrote:





On Nov 14, 7:05*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

Opinion piece on the demise of the 100-watt bulb.

"Because the end of days is drawing nigh. *Not in the Biblical sense, but in
the Environmental Protection Agency sense: there were only a scant eight
weeks (now only seven) before the end of the light bulb as we know it.. *As
of January 1, 2012, Americans will have their freedom of light bulb choice
snuffed out by an omnibus 2007 law requiring that general-purpose bulbs be
25% more energy-efficient than the current, justly-beloved, incandescent
bulb."

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-end-of-t...-as-we-knowit/

Long gone in Europe. The 60W is the current one going here.
I haven'thad an incandescent lamp for years. I still have some of *the
first CFLs to come out.
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Actually, Americans are more than willing to accept the new technology
when it truely represents something better but totally resent having
those decisions dictated to them. *When a new technology reaches the
point that it becomes the most viable solution, people will naturally
accept it without having the government shove it up their ass. *Until
that point is reached, it should not be the position of government to
force the issue when in many cases they are doing a great deal of harm
rather than good.- Hide quoted text -

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Americans are the most stick-in-the-mud Westen society on earth. You
only have to see the rantings on here.
If something isn't happening in their back yard, it isn't happening at
all.
Especially technologywise.

And don't assume things are going to get "better". They aren't. You
need to be making arrangements right now. And CFLs is a small part of
it.

On 11/16/2011 1:57 AM, harry wrote:
(snip)
Americans are the most stick-in-the-mud Westen society on earth. You
only have to see the rantings on here.
If something isn't happening in their back yard, it isn't happening at
all.
Especially technologywise.

And don't assume things are going to get "better". They aren't. You
need to be making arrangements right now. And CFLs is a small part of
it.

Must be comforting having your nanny-state government make all your
decisions for you.

--
aem sends...

On Nov 17, 3:35*am, aemeijers wrote:
On 11/16/2011 1:57 AM, harry wrote:
(snip)

Americans are the most stick-in-the-mud Westen society on earth. You
only have to see the rantings on here.
If something isn't happening in their back yard, it isn't happening at
all.
Especially technologywise.

And don't assume things are going to get "better". *They aren't. *You
need to be making arrangements right now. And CFLs is a small part of
it.

Must be comforting having your nanny-state government make all your
decisions for you.

--
aem sends...

Better than a fascist state run by retards.

Just been watching the parade of new republican retard presidential
hopefuls on the TV.
Several that think waterboarding is OK.
I wonder if they've had it done to them?
The PC sub-normal woman. (Relative of Palin-cow?)
The PC black guy with dementia who's never heard of Libya or Barak
Obama.
(We especially love him over here).
His interlude with dementia has been played to death on the news on
BBC, Aljazeera, Russian TV, France 24 TV and Euroland TV. He was
even on Chinese TV
And you wonder why the rest of the world thinksYanks are crazy?

Not one had a suggestion as to what had to be done to fix things. Just
bluster and aspiration.

Or, more likely, they are hiding the truth from you. Which is you're
all going to hell on a handcart. (So are we over here).


There is a reason for all this charade. It's so the votes will all be
channeled to the candidate that the wealthy fascist uppper class wants
in power.
Heh Heh. Compared with most of this lot, even Bush-evil-retard was an
intellectual giant.

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:43:29 AM UTC-5, harry wrote:
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

You're making an assumption that 'Murrica can be hauled into the present. Prosecution Exhibit 1 that we haven't: our refusal to adopt the Metric system.

On 11/23/2011 8:15 AM, Kyle wrote:
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:43:29 AM UTC-5, harry wrote:
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Prosecution Exhibit 1 that we haven't: our refusal to adopt the Metric system.

Most professionals do use the metric system...because it's better.

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:17:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:14:38 -0500, Moe Gasser
wrote:

On 11/23/2011 8:15 AM, Kyle wrote:
On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:43:29 AM UTC-5, harry wrote:
How is Americans have to be hauled kicking and whinging into the
present?

Prosecution Exhibit 1 that we haven't: our refusal to adopt the Metric system.

Most professionals do use the metric system...because it's better.

I have a tape measure with both on it. I use one or the other,
depending on what I am doing.

If you are dividing a given distance into equal parts, metric beats
the hell out of the english system.
You also find out pretty fast that 1/2" plywood is really 12mm so you
are forced into metric.

Except that it's 48" x 96". ;-)

Forced into metric? No, 15/32" is good enough. The thickness isn't precise
anyhow, so anything critical has to be hand-fit.