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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material,
aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Hi, Al will last longer, fire resistant as well. When this house was built in '94 Al. was installed, it still looks good. Vinyl is weak against hail storm too. |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote:
I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. It goes up easily and looks great. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Sep 14, 10:47*am, Tony Hwang wrote:
ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? There really is very little difference in installation with the fascia cover. Aluminum soffit can span a bit more than vinyl as it's more rigid. There will be a bigger difference in appearance from surface texture (faux wood grain versus smooth, for example) than between vinyl and aluminum. Similar textures look pretty much the same from the ground. Hi, Al will last longer, fire resistant as well. When this house was built in '94 Al. was installed, it still looks good. Vinyl is weak against hail storm too. Aluminum will last longer than vinyl? Vinyl fascia doesn't hold up to hail? Huh? Aluminum will last a long time, sure, but the paint on the aluminum will start chalking long before the aluminum gives up the ghost. Fascia covers are mainly an aesthetic thing - if you lose the paint, you lose a lot of the benefit. That won't happen with vinyl. A fascia cover is fully supported. Fully supported vinyl is just as strong as fully supported aluminum. However hail can dent aluminum even if it's fully supported, but it won't dent vinyl. Soffits never get hit by hail. R |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Sep 14, 10:56*am, "
wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. *Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. *Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. *It goes up easily and looks great. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. Thanks everyone. I never heard of Vinyl-clad aluminum. How is it better than plain aluminum? I also though you cut aluminum coil with metal snipers. I have two questions: 1. How to bend aluminum? I don't have any specialized equipment. 2. How to patch aluminum seams to look good? Should I use caulk? |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Sep 14, 10:43*am, ls02 wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:56*am, " wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. *Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. *Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. *It goes up easily and looks great. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. Thanks everyone. I never heard of Vinyl-clad aluminum. How is it better than plain aluminum? I also though you cut aluminum coil with metal snipers. I have two questions: 1. How to bend aluminum? I don't have any specialized equipment. 2. How to patch aluminum seams to look good? Should I use caulk? Yep, those making recommendations didn't read the last part of your message. Although aluminum and vinyl clad aluminum are the better products, they are also harder to install for the average homeowner. You need to rent/borrow a metal brake to bend the aluminum. You also need to make exact measurements and carefully plan out compound bends. In other words you need the tools & experience to do a decent job yourself. Vinyl is much easier to install for the average homeowner. |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Sep 14, 10:59*am, Red wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:43*am, ls02 wrote: On Sep 14, 10:56*am, " wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. *Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. *Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. *It goes up easily and looks great.. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. Thanks everyone. I never heard of Vinyl-clad aluminum. How is it better than plain aluminum? I also though you cut aluminum coil with metal snipers. I have two questions: 1. How to bend aluminum? I don't have any specialized equipment. 2. How to patch aluminum seams to look good? Should I use caulk? Yep, those making recommendations didn't read the last part of your message. *Although aluminum and vinyl clad aluminum are the better products, they are also harder to install for the average homeowner. You need to rent/borrow a metal brake to bend the aluminum. *You also need to make exact measurements and carefully plan out compound bends. *In other words you need the tools & experience to do a decent job yourself. *Vinyl is much easier to install for the average homeowner.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Baloney. I did AL soffits and fascia using stock big-box AL and never had to bend anything. Took some planning, but all I used were tinnersnips and a power drill and stainless steel screws. Hail damage not likely, vinyl will deteriorate with time, painting will not help. AL will need repainting at some point in time, but the basic material will not weaken with time. |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
RicodJour writes:
On Sep 14, 10:47Â*am, Tony Hwang wrote: ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? There really is very little difference in installation with the fascia cover. Aluminum soffit can span a bit more than vinyl as it's more rigid. There will be a bigger difference in appearance from surface texture (faux wood grain versus smooth, for example) than between vinyl and aluminum. Similar textures look pretty much the same from the ground. Hi, Al will last longer, fire resistant as well. When this house was built in '94 Al. was installed, it still looks good. Vinyl is weak against hail storm too. Aluminum will last longer than vinyl? Vinyl fascia doesn't hold up to hail? Huh? Aluminum will last a long time, sure, but the paint on the aluminum will start chalking long before the aluminum gives up the ghost. Fascia covers are mainly an aesthetic thing - if you lose the paint, you lose a lot of the benefit. That won't happen with vinyl. A fascia cover is fully supported. Fully supported vinyl is just as strong as fully supported aluminum. However hail can dent aluminum even if it's fully supported, but it won't dent vinyl. Soffits never get hit by hail. Depends. Vinyl gets brittle as it ages. I lost some in a golf ball hail storm. Aluminum probably would have dented. A whole bunch of the vinyl will be under the eaves and not exposed but there are usually some parts that are exposed. -- Dan Espen |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:56*am, " wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. *Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. *Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. *It goes up easily and looks great. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. Thanks everyone. I never heard of Vinyl-clad aluminum. How is it better than plain aluminum? I also though you cut aluminum coil with metal snipers. It is just that. It's aluminum with a vinyl coating. It has the best qualities of both. No need to use coil stock for what you're doing. I have two questions: 1. How to bend aluminum? I don't have any specialized equipment. For soffits and fascia you don't need to bend anything. Well, *maybe* the end caps, but I had them done at the roofing supply place where I bought the siding. 2. How to patch aluminum seams to look good? Should I use caulk? No. You don't seal them at all. It's gotta be able to move. |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Red wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:43*am, ls02 wrote: On Sep 14, 10:56*am, " wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT), ls02 wrote: I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Aluminum, if you can afford it. *Vinyl-clad aluminum, if you're feeling rich. ;-) Vinyl can sag and can look terrible. *Aluminum is almost as easy to work with. A circular saw (I used a RAS) with a plywood blade in backwards (AND HEARING PROTECTION) cuts it very easily. *It goes up easily and looks great. Soffits and Facia are a piece of cake. Thanks everyone. I never heard of Vinyl-clad aluminum. How is it better than plain aluminum? I also though you cut aluminum coil with metal snipers. I have two questions: 1. How to bend aluminum? I don't have any specialized equipment. 2. How to patch aluminum seams to look good? Should I use caulk? Yep, those making recommendations didn't read the last part of your message. Although aluminum and vinyl clad aluminum are the better products, they are also harder to install for the average homeowner. You need to rent/borrow a metal brake to bend the aluminum. You also need to make exact measurements and carefully plan out compound bends. In other words you need the tools & experience to do a decent job yourself. Vinyl is much easier to install for the average homeowner. Nonsense. I didn't make a single bend. I did have a couple of end caps made for me at the dealer but the layout was a little odd. The soffits and fascia parts are sold in 12'6" sections, IIRC. Just cut to length. The soffits run crosswise so they were cut into 24" pieces and run between a J-channel on the wall and the fascia piece, then interlocked together. Simple! |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
"ls02" wrote in message ... I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? I personally think a combination of vinyl soffit and aluminum fascia is the better choice for the first time DIY person. Other than a cheap plywood blade for your circular saw the only tools you must have are a quality pair of tin snips, a 6" hand brake, and a nailset for the siding nails that nail the fascia in place. The hand brake is used to bend the corners to wrap around and protect the wood under there. Building yourself a slide track to hold the vinyl and track your saw at 90 degrees is desirable. That uses a 24x24 scrap pf plywood and some 1x3 scraps. I can and will upload a photo of one for you if you like. Mine is about 20 years old and has been used a few times. -- Colbyt Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
On 9/14/2011 10:23 AM, ls02 wrote:
I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Bite the bullet and use plastic or aluminum instead of wood. Not a fan of wrapping. Seen too many cases, on this house and others, where you end up with intact wrapping over black gunk where the wood used to be. If the wood is already up, make sure you have weep holes or other paths in the wrap for trapped water to escape, and make sure the soffit does not slope toward the house, or into the wall is where the water will go. (Took me about half an hour of staring at the non-matching kitchen window here, before the light bulb went off, and I figured out why they had to replace it.) -- aem sends... |
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Fascia and soffit: aluminum vs. vinyl
" I need to wrap soffit and fascia on my new addition. What material, aluminum or vinyl looks best, easier to install for an average homeowner? Bite the bullet and use plastic or aluminum instead of wood. Not a fan of wrapping. Seen too many cases, on this house and others, where you end up with intact wrapping over black gunk where the wood used to be. If the wood is already up, make sure you have weep holes or other paths in the wrap for trapped water to escape, and make sure the soffit does not slope toward the house, or into the wall is where the water will go. (Took me about half an hour of staring at the non-matching kitchen window here, before the light bulb went off, and I figured out why they had to replace it.) *I agree. I've seen it many times where the wrapped fascia looks great and the wood behind it is wet and rotting. I guess the wood absorbs moisture and because it is wrapped, the water stays trapped inside. |
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