Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:43:58 -0400, joevan
wrote:

Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

Forgot the link.
http://www.flushmate.com/Installation/

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.


*The web site says that it cannot be fitted into an existing gravity fed
toilet. Get yourself a new low water toilet with a large discharge opening.
I bought a Toto Drake a few years ago and love the flushing power. The guts
inside are the same as any other toilet. I think the discharge opening is
3".

The church building I attend, has several Sloan Flushmate.
They had a run of bad tanks, the tanks leak. Then, the tanks
get waterlogged, and don't flush. The church had to replace
at least two of the tanks, in warranty. I'd be cautious
about that change. Have a spare tank, available to put in.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"joevan" wrote in message
...
Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish
toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too
A quart of water dumped into the bowl just as the flush is started
makes everything go down easily. Been doing that for a while.

joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43 am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too
A quart of water dumped into the bowl just as the flush is started
makes everything go down easily. Been doing that for a while.

What happens when your pour a BUCKET of water in the bowl without flushing?

This is the standard test; report the results.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too
I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

On Aug 22, 11:37*am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

I am not familiar with a sloan flushmate

But heres what goes wrong with a regular toilet.

it fails to flush solids well, when flushed water just swirls around
in the bowl.....

heres whats wrong...... the interior bowl rim passages have sludged
up, poor flow makes the toilet flush poorly.

buy a gallon of muriatic acid, wear safety glasses leave windows open.
gloves are a good idea but not essential. put a funnel in the open end
of the dip tube, where the hose with water goes inside the tank.

turn water off flush toilet repeatedly. the less water in the bowl the
better.

take a deep breathe pour a quart or so of muriatic acid down in the
funnel.

leave the room wait 15 minutes and repeat more acid.

wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally 10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

On Aug 22, 11:37*am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

It sounds like you have an older toilet that is meant to use
a specific amount of water per flush that someone had modded
with baffles or adjusted the water level in the tank with the fill
valve to use less water than it is designed/intended for...

Replace toilet with one designed to be low-flow flush...

~~ Evan

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 07:43:58 -0400, joevan wrote:

Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

I installed one about 15 years ago, to replace an old high-flush toilet
that clogged up too frequently. I replaced the entire toilet with a
Gerber Ultra-Flush (Flushmate guts) that was highly recommended in CR. I
was originally concerned about reliability and cost to repair. (This is
the bathroom my wife mostly uses, and she decided she REALLY wanted that
model.) So far my fears have mostly not been realized. The repair rate is
about the same or better than other toilets I've had. I had to replace
the flush valve (NOT the tank) twice, once due to a manufacturing defect,
and more recently due to flakey flushing. If you're a DIYer, it's pretty
easy, but the parts are more expensive than the common variety, and not
as available.

The toilet is VERY effective. I don't think it's ever clogged or required
an extra flush.

You should be aware it's fairly noisy when it flushes! A loud whooshing
sound lasting 2 or three seconds. I suspect the neighbors know whenever
we flush. Once we had a family for a visit and one of the kids didn't
flush because the noise was too scary. We're used to it now, so hardly
notice it, but it's definitely an attention-getter.

Personally I would lean toward getting one of the high-rated regular
toilets, due mainly to the noise issue. But if performance is the main
priority and you can live with the noise, it is a good choice.

You do realize that federal law restricts toilets to 1.6 gal
per flush. You're in violation of federal law, which might
result in arrest, conviction, and fine or prison time. Yes,
Uncle Sam is letting all kinds of people in the south
border, but you can be imprisoned for using too much flush
water.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"joevan" wrote in message
...


if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a
quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

A quart of water dumped into the bowl just as the flush is
started
makes everything go down easily. Been doing that for a
while.

I sure hope the bucket only held 1.6 gallons of water.
Wouldn't want to be imprisoned, you know.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"joevan" wrote in message
news
if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a
quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

the existing toilet is likely slugged up in its interior passages,
easily solved by using some acid that dissolves the crud

On Aug 22, 5:16*am, "John Grabowski" wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

*The web site says that it cannot be fitted into an existing gravity fed
toilet. *Get yourself a new low water toilet with a large discharge opening.
I bought a Toto Drake a few years ago and love the flushing power. *The guts
inside are the same as any other toilet. *I think the discharge opening is
3".

Same here. That toilet is awesome.

Only problem I have had with it is my wife. For some reason she holds
the flush handle then the valve doesn't seat properly and I find the
valve leaking by. Much yelling, screaming etc that thee was nothing
wrong with the toilet and it will work just firn if you will just LET
GO OF THE FREAKING HANDLE!

Harry K

On Aug 23, 8:17*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
You do realize that federal law restricts toilets to 1.6 gal
per flush. You're in violation of federal law, which might
result in arrest, conviction, and fine or prison time. Yes,
Uncle Sam is letting all kinds of people in the south
border, but you can be imprisoned for using too much flush
water.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"joevan" wrote in message

...



if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a
quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

A quart of water dumped into the bowl just as the flush is
started
makes everything go down easily. Been doing that for a
while.

You do realize that the 1.6 gallon per flush applies to the
engineering and design of toilets being sold for new construction
and remodel projects only...

There is nothing that makes older existing toilets that
use either 3 or 5 gallons per flush illegal, nor any prohibition
against flushing a low flow toilet more than once which would
use more than 1.6 gallons of water on emptying the bowl...

~~ Evan

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:17:13 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You do realize that federal law restricts toilets to 1.6 gal
per flush. You're in violation of federal law, which might
result in arrest, conviction, and fine or prison time. Yes,
Uncle Sam is letting all kinds of people in the south
border, but you can be imprisoned for using too much flush
water.

I've not seen a person locked up for flushing with too much water.
Prison cells have not been retrofitted with 1.6 gallon toilets.

I have seen people locked up for "harassing a bear" and stealing
government fish, though.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:37*am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43*am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? *We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

I am not familiar with a sloan flushmate

But heres what goes wrong with a regular toilet.

it fails to flush solids well, when flushed water just swirls around
in the bowl.....

heres whats wrong...... the interior bowl rim passages have sludged
up, poor flow makes the toilet flush poorly.

buy a gallon of muriatic acid, wear safety glasses leave windows open.
gloves are a good idea but not essential. put a funnel in the open end
of the dip tube, where the hose with water goes inside the tank.

turn water off flush toilet repeatedly. the less water in the bowl the
better.

take a deep breathe pour a quart or so of muriatic acid down in the
funnel.

leave the room wait 15 minutes and repeat more acid.

wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally 10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.


In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy toilet".

On Aug 23, 2:32*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:





On Aug 22, 11:37 am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43 am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

I am not familiar with a sloan flushmate

But heres what goes wrong with a regular toilet.

it fails to flush solids well, when flushed water just swirls around
in the bowl.....

heres whats wrong...... the interior bowl rim passages have sludged
up, poor flow makes the toilet flush poorly.

buy a gallon of muriatic acid, wear safety glasses leave windows open.
gloves are a good idea but not essential. put a funnel in the open end
of the dip tube, where the hose with water goes inside the tank.

turn water off flush toilet repeatedly. the less water in the bowl the
better.

take a deep breathe pour a quart or so of muriatic acid down in the
funnel.

leave the room wait 15 minutes and repeat more acid.

wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally 10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy toilet".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

you probably meant neautrilize the acid.

be careful of violent reactions if trying this. add a basic very
slowly, like baking soda...slowly, a little at a time.

i used to launch rockets with baking sda and vinegar with the right
load they could go pretty high

On Aug 23, 3:15*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Aug 23, 2:32*pm, Oren wrote:



On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:37 am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43 am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

I am not familiar with a sloan flushmate

But heres what goes wrong with a regular toilet.

it fails to flush solids well, when flushed water just swirls around
in the bowl.....

heres whats wrong...... the interior bowl rim passages have sludged
up, poor flow makes the toilet flush poorly.

buy a gallon of muriatic acid, wear safety glasses leave windows open.
gloves are a good idea but not essential. put a funnel in the open end
of the dip tube, where the hose with water goes inside the tank.

turn water off flush toilet repeatedly. the less water in the bowl the
better.

take a deep breathe pour a quart or so of muriatic acid down in the
funnel.

leave the room wait 15 minutes and repeat more acid.

wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally 10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy toilet".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

you probably meant neautrilize the acid.

be careful of violent reactions if trying this. add a basic very
slowly, like baking soda...slowly, a little at a time.

i used to launch rockets with baking sda and vinegar with the right
load they could go pretty high

That's what he means...you only need to spell it right! ;^)

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:15:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:


reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy toilet".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

you probably meant neautrilize the acid.


No, "neutralize" is what I meant (grin)

be careful of violent reactions if trying this. add a basic very
slowly, like baking soda...slowly, a little at a time.

Yes.


i used to launch rockets with baking sda and vinegar with the right
load they could go pretty high

You probably meant baking "soda" and vinegar :-/

Pour some white vinegar down the overflow tube before you leave the
house for the day, then use a .22 caliber gun-cleaning brush to clean
out the rim holes.
Also, make sure nobody is using a "disinfectant" in the tank. Not only
can it change the flush characteristics into the negative direction,
it can
also muck up the rim holes.

Research terms "toiletology" and "fluidmaster". Look for "blue goo".

On Aug 23, 2:32*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:32:56 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:



On Aug 22, 11:37 am, joevan wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:16:10 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Aug 22, 7:43 am, joevan wrote:
Has anyone here experience with them? We have a sluggish toilet and
would like to put a flushmate pressure unit in the tank.

does you toilet flush solids poorly normally? try flushing with a
bucket of water.....

if that flushes well post your answer and i will post a quick easy
fix, thats cheap too

I did a pail of water and it went down just fine.

I am not familiar with a sloan flushmate

But heres what goes wrong with a regular toilet.

it fails to flush solids well, when flushed water just swirls around
in the bowl.....

heres whats wrong...... the interior bowl rim passages have sludged
up, poor flow makes the toilet flush poorly.

buy a gallon of muriatic acid, wear safety glasses leave windows open.
gloves are a good idea but not essential. put a funnel in the open end
of the dip tube, where the hose with water goes inside the tank.

turn water off flush toilet repeatedly. the less water in the bowl the
better.

take a deep breathe pour a quart or so of muriatic acid down in the
funnel.

leave the room wait 15 minutes and repeat more acid.

wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally 10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10 bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy toilet".

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:17:13 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You do realize that federal law restricts toilets to 1.6 gal
per flush. You're in violation of federal law, which might
result in arrest, conviction, and fine or prison time. Yes,
Uncle Sam is letting all kinds of people in the south
border, but you can be imprisoned for using too much flush
water.

They'll probably put a toilet-cam on his. He'll get a violation after every
flush.

Did Obama get legislation, naturalizing all the illegal
acids?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...


wait 15 more minutes. turn water back on and flush normally
10 to 15
times to dilute any remaining acid.

reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but your
probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.


In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in the
bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

Wouw, thes is turnink into a spellang clas.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:15:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller

wrote:


reportedly people have done this on a septic tank but
your probably
better off to do this by pulling the toilet.

In lieu of removing the toilet, naturalize the acid in
the bowl BEFORE
flushing the water.

although t sounds extreme it really isnt and works fast
to clean the
toilet passages.

a bunch of posters here have done this its safe cheap 10
bucks or less
and effective........

Yes, I have used this method and it works for a "lazy
toilet".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

you probably meant neautrilize the acid.


No, "neutralize" is what I meant (grin)

be careful of violent reactions if trying this. add a basic
very
slowly, like baking soda...slowly, a little at a time.

Yes.


i used to launch rockets with baking sda and vinegar with
the right
load they could go pretty high

You probably meant baking "soda" and vinegar :-/

You havn't noticed? That's the box with the blinking red
light.....

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:17:13 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You do realize that federal law restricts toilets to 1.6
gal
per flush. You're in violation of federal law, which might
result in arrest, conviction, and fine or prison time. Yes,
Uncle Sam is letting all kinds of people in the south
border, but you can be imprisoned for using too much flush
water.

They'll probably put a toilet-cam on his. He'll get a
violation after every
flush.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:28:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Did Obama get legislation, naturalizing all the illegal
acids?

Nope, just an executive order.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:30:20 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You havn't noticed? That's the box with the blinking red
light.....
I was wondering about that blinking light. Now I know what it's for.
Thanks for cluing me in. : o)

Be sure to always flush your toilet clockwise, if you're in
the northern hemisphere.

And never pour extra water in the bowl. The 1.6 GPF is
saving the planet.

You can harass a bear, or steal a fish instead.

Remember to naturalize your illegal acids.

Obama truly cares about saving the planet, by fining you for
using your toilet. Ask any EPA guy.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"joevan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:30:20 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You havn't noticed? That's the box with the blinking red
light.....
I was wondering about that blinking light. Now I know what
it's for.
Thanks for cluing me in. : o)

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:25:45 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You can harass a bear, or steal a fish instead.

Remember to naturalize your illegal acids.

Hey. Get your own material. Stop stealing mine wink

Sorry. I owe you a bunch of these



so people will know I'm quoting.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:25:45 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

You can harass a bear, or steal a fish instead.

Remember to naturalize your illegal acids.

Hey. Get your own material. Stop stealing mine wink

Very disappointed with Sloan Flushmate. 3 years ago I bought 3 pressure assisted toilets for my home and 8 for my business. The toilets are made by American standard with a Sloan Flushmate pressure tank. Just recently I received a recall card. Apparently the tank can crack at the seams and even explode. So I called with the S/N and they send me a repair kit. When I opened the box I started laughing, then I got angry. They had a pressure regulator and straps to go around the tank. Obviously they do not trust the regulator and this is why they send the straps. I’m surprised they did not send duct Tape.
I called Flushmate and they gave me the run around telling me it was approved by so and so and she even through a few government departments in there.
I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand by their product, I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.
I got a pressure assisted toilets for a reason. Save water and still do the job with the assistance of pressure. So now I have to install a pressure regulator and drop the pressure, so now my toilets will not do the job that where intended to do. The flushmate employee was telling me that they will do the job, trust me they don’t. Dropping the pressure from the house to the toilet from 60 PSI to 25 PSI has a big difference.

For some reason, my church has a LOT of these. The maint guys tell me they
break often, and are constant stream of complaint calls.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

wrote in message
...
Very disappointed with Sloan Flushmate. 3 years ago I bought 3 pressure
assisted toilets for my home and 8 for my business. The toilets are made by
American standard with a Sloan Flushmate pressure tank. Just recently I
received a recall card. Apparently the tank can crack at the seams and even
explode. So I called with the S/N and they send me a repair kit. When I
opened the box I started laughing, then I got angry. They had a pressure
regulator and straps to go around the tank. Obviously they do not trust the
regulator and this is why they send the straps. I’m surprised they did not
send duct Tape.
I called Flushmate and they gave me the run around telling me it was
approved by so and so and she even through a few government departments in
there.
I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand
by their product, I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought
Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.
I got a pressure assisted toilets for a reason. Save water and still do the
job with the assistance of pressure. So now I have to install a pressure
regulator and drop the pressure, so now my toilets will not do the job that
where intended to do. The flushmate employee was telling me that they will
do the job, trust me they don’t. Dropping the pressure from the house to the
toilet from 60 PSI to 25 PSI has a big difference.

wrote in message
...
Very disappointed with Sloan Flushmate. 3 years ago I bought 3 pressure
assisted toilets for my home and 8 for my business. The toilets are made by
American standard with a Sloan Flushmate pressure tank. Just recently I
received a recall card. Apparently the tank can crack at the seams and even
explode. So I called with the S/N and they send me a repair kit. When I
opened the box I started laughing, then I got angry. They had a pressure
regulator and straps to go around the tank. Obviously they do not trust the
regulator and this is why they send the straps. I’m surprised they did not
send duct Tape.
I called Flushmate and they gave me the run around telling me it was
approved by so and so and she even through a few government departments in
there.
I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand
by their product, I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought
Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.
I got a pressure assisted toilets for a reason. Save water and still do the
job with the assistance of pressure. So now I have to install a pressure
regulator and drop the pressure, so now my toilets will not do the job that
where intended to do. The flushmate employee was telling me that they will
do the job, trust me they don’t. Dropping the pressure from the house to the
toilet from 60 PSI to 25 PSI has a big difference.


Rather surprisingly They sell/sold these in the UK too. They are a years
old firm, we had no problems with them. They were tank fed but in a ten
floor building, so worked at 50 psi or so. We always had good service from
the company, they worked direct from the USA. The only parts ever needed
were new diaphragms. The rest was very substantial bronze castings. All
very nicely machined up.

The mod offered is a reasonable fix. So long as the tank has not actually
split it will be OK. Probably the shock load is the problem as these
valves close. Obviously it is a cock up, must be quite embarrasing.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:42:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote in
Re Sloan
Flushmate:

I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand by their product,

You thought wrong.

I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.

Yes, that is exactly what you should have done and what most people
now do.

When you buy high-price American, you a paying the price *now* for a
*promise* of quality that isn't usually delivered.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:51:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Our firm has filed a class action lawsuit against Flushmate as we believe the "repair kit" does nothing to repair the problems with the flushing system. We are interested in talking to owners of Flushmate III systems housed in toilets by manufacturers such as American Standard, Kohler, Gerber, and others. If you would like to discuss this further, please contact our office toll-free (866) 474-9999 or .



On Monday, July 30, 2012 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Very disappointed with Sloan Flushmate. 3 years ago I bought 3 pressure assisted toilets for my home and 8 for my business. The toilets are made by American standard with a Sloan Flushmate pressure tank. Just recently I received a recall card. Apparently the tank can crack at the seams and even explode. So I called with the S/N and they send me a repair kit. When I opened the box I started laughing, then I got angry. They had a pressure regulator and straps to go around the tank. Obviously they do not trust the regulator and this is why they send the straps. I’m surprised they did not send duct Tape.



I called Flushmate and they gave me the run around telling me it was approved by so and so and she even through a few government departments in there.



I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand by their product, I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.



I got a pressure assisted toilets for a reason. Save water and still do the job with the assistance of pressure. So now I have to install a pressure regulator and drop the pressure, so now my toilets will not do the job that where intended to do. The flushmate employee was telling me that they will do the job, trust me they don’t. Dropping the pressure from the house to the toilet from 60 PSI to 25 PSI has a big difference.

They say that it’s made in The United States but I have serious doubts about it. I think that it’s probably assembled in the US but the parts I’m betting are made in China. I would appreciate it if anyone who has first hand knowledge would either confirm or contradict my theory.

On 8/21/2012 1:46 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:51:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Our firm has filed a class action lawsuit against Flushmate as we believe the "repair kit" does nothing to repair the problems with the flushing system. We are interested in talking to owners of Flushmate III systems housed in toilets by manufacturers such as American Standard, Kohler, Gerber, and others. If you would like to discuss this further, please contact our office toll-free (866) 474-9999 or .



On Monday, July 30, 2012 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:

Very disappointed with Sloan Flushmate. 3 years ago I bought 3 pressure assisted toilets for my home and 8 for my business. The toilets are made by American standard with a Sloan Flushmate pressure tank. Just recently I received a recall card. Apparently the tank can crack at the seams and even explode. So I called with the S/N and they send me a repair kit. When I opened the box I started laughing, then I got angry. They had a pressure regulator and straps to go around the tank. Obviously they do not trust the regulator and this is why they send the straps. I’m surprised they did not send duct Tape.



I called Flushmate and they gave me the run around telling me it was approved by so and so and she even through a few government departments in there.



I try to buy US made products thinking there better made and they will stand by their product, I paid top dollar for those toilets. I should have bought Chinese product for ¼ of the price and just change them every 5-6 years.



I got a pressure assisted toilets for a reason. Save water and still do the job with the assistance of pressure. So now I have to install a pressure regulator and drop the pressure, so now my toilets will not do the job that where intended to do. The flushmate employee was telling me that they will do the job, trust me they don’t. Dropping the pressure from the house to the toilet from 60 PSI to 25 PSI has a big difference.

They say that it’s made in The United States but I have serious doubts about it. I think that it’s probably assembled in the US but the parts I’m betting are made in China. I would appreciate it if anyone who has first hand knowledge would either confirm or contradict my theory.

The pressure regulator in the repair kit does not reduce the pressure in
the tank, it reduces the rate at which the tank is pressurized. It will
take longer to refill the tank between flushes, but that's about it.
Probably they found that pressurizing the tank more slowly reduced the
likelihood of an explosion.

The stainless steel band that goes around the plastic tank keeps the
tank from catastrophically exploding, but it does little or nothing in
terms of stopping leaks in the tank.

Kind of odd that the screw holes for the metal band were already in
place on the plastic tank. I suspect that they were going to include the
band as part of the original product then decided to save money by not
putting it in.