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Wilfred Xavier Pickles August 17th 11 10:49 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 

Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?

Thx,
Will

Oren[_2_] August 17th 11 11:25 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:49:49 -0500, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:


Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?

Thx,
Will


These are from Kwikset for the dead bolt.

http://www.amazon.com/Kwikset-Security-Deadbolt-3222-01-CP/dp/B000BCDI4C

Not familiar with ones for the knob-set. You could use longer screws
on those.

Pre-drill for the longer screws as you can break them off.

RicodJour[_2_] August 17th 11 11:47 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Aug 17, 5:49*pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?


To be secure you really have to reinforce both sides - the door and
the jamb. There's also the visual deterent. Your door will look
tougher to get into so they'll be less likely to try and go for an
easier target.

Check Amazon for:
Security Strike, Brushed Nickel 6"H x 1-1/8"W by Mintcraft $8.32
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 4 1/2" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $7.79
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 9" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $9.76

Please note I came in right in the middle of your budget range at
around $30. I expect extra points when you do your grading. ;)

R

George Jetson[_3_] August 18th 11 08:28 AM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
"RicodJour" wrote in message
...
On Aug 17, 5:49 pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their
doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need
to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy
duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws
driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the
usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?


To be secure you really have to reinforce both sides - the door and
the jamb. There's also the visual deterent. Your door will look
tougher to get into so they'll be less likely to try and go for an
easier target.

Check Amazon for:
Security Strike, Brushed Nickel 6"H x 1-1/8"W by Mintcraft $8.32
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 4 1/2" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $7.79
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 9" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $9.76

Please note I came in right in the middle of your budget range at
around $30. I expect extra points when you do your grading. ;)

R


I have seen a door kicked in twice and even the cheapest Kwicksets held
while the wood frame split. I used a 6' x 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/8" piece of angle
iron screwed in behind the molding with 3 1/2" deck screws. some grinding
around the strike plate was required. Add another 12 or so screws around
the perimeter if the door frame wasn't screwed in real well the first time.
Add small steel plates sandwiched around the locks if the door is not strong
enough.

It took me about 3 hrs but the next guys really gonna work up a sweat
kicking his way in. Cost about $15 per door.

If you don't mind the ghetto look put an extra deadbolt down low that says
go away and try the neighbors.

--
They can have my command prompt when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.


bob haller August 18th 11 12:50 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Aug 18, 3:28*am, "George Jetson" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote in message

...
On Aug 17, 5:49 pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:





Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.


When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their
doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.


Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need
to
reinforce my locks.


I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.


I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy
duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws
driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.


I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the
usual
case).


Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?


To be secure you really have to reinforce both sides *- the door and
the jamb. *There's also the visual deterent. *Your door will look
tougher to get into so they'll be less likely to try and go for an
easier target.

Check Amazon for:
Security Strike, Brushed Nickel 6"H x 1-1/8"W by Mintcraft $8.32
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 4 1/2" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $7.79
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 9" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $9.76

Please note I came in right in the middle of your budget range at
around $30. *I expect extra points when you do your grading. *;)

R

I have seen a door kicked in twice and even the cheapest Kwicksets held
while the wood frame split. *I used a 6' x 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/8" piece of angle
iron screwed in behind the molding with 3 1/2" deck screws. *some grinding
around the strike plate was required. *Add another 12 or so screws around
the perimeter if the door frame wasn't screwed in real well the first time.
Add small steel plates sandwiched around the locks if the door is not strong
enough.

It took me about 3 hrs but the next guys really gonna work up a sweat
kicking his way in. *Cost about $15 per door.

If you don't mind the ghetto look put an extra deadbolt down low that says
go away and try the neighbors.

--
They can have my command prompt when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


spend money on the strike plate f you want.........

but get a deadbolt with a LONG arm that goes not only in the sstrike
plate but into the framing...

this will slow them down a lot. but remember they may just look for
another way:(

a yappy dog can do wonders to discourage intruders, so can a alarm
system or just signs warning of alarm system........


Stormin Mormon August 18th 11 02:02 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
As you mention Lowe's, this will help with the deadbolt:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_14604-76018-...B&face tInfo=

I've seen reinforced strike plates for deadbolts. Don't
bother trying to get one for both locks, just do the
deadbolt. If you want a quick and simple, you can pilot
hole and then anchor the deadbolt strike with 3 inch
galvanized deck screws in place of the tiny screws the lock
provided.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote
in message
...

Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door
locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set
locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with
the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I
got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear
doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a
deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 "
between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a
single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8
3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store,
called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I
need (the usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per
door, installing
myself?

Thx,
Will



jamesgangnc[_3_] August 18th 11 02:09 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Aug 17, 5:49*pm, Wilfred Xavier Pickles
wrote:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the usual
case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door, installing
myself?

* Thx,
* Will


Longer screws on the deadbolt lock plate are the fastest and cheapest
solution.

At some point it's not worth it since a couple of crowbars will
probably open any of your windows. Just slip one under each side and
pry up. The window latches will pull out.

TWayne August 18th 11 05:55 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
In ,
Wilfred Xavier Pickles typed:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door
locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just
knob-set locks on their doors. Burglars got more active,
folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats
what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in
rear doors. I need to reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a
deadbolt. Old lite strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long.
There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a
single very heavy duty strike plate to handle both locks
on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven into the 2
2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware
store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what
I need (the usual case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per
door, installing myself?

Thx,
Will


That's good for the strike plates it would appear. But don't forget the door
itself; is it hearty enough to withstand a good hit? How about the hinges?
How about the door frame all the way aroun d?



Wilfred Xavier Pickles August 18th 11 07:01 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:47:15 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour wrote:

To be secure you really have to reinforce both sides - the door and
the jamb. There's also the visual deterent. Your door will look
tougher to get into so they'll be less likely to try and go for an
easier target.


Well, I tend to agree re visuals.

Check Amazon for:
Security Strike, Brushed Nickel 6"H x 1-1/8"W by Mintcraft $8.32
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 4 1/2" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $7.79
Door Reinforcer, 4" x 9" Brushed Nickel by Mintcraft $9.76


This stuff might work OK on the front door ...

Please note I came in right in the middle of your budget range at
around $30. I expect extra points when you do your grading. ;)


Not until the assignment is finished. The Strike, Brushed Nickel 6"H
will not clear the strike on the knob-set on the rear door, hence
cannot be used there. Eh?

Thx,
Will

aemeijers August 18th 11 11:40 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On 8/18/2011 12:55 PM, Twayne wrote:
In ,
Wilfred Xavier typed:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door
locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just
knob-set locks on their doors. Burglars got more active,
folks added deadbolts, mostly with the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats
what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in
rear doors. I need to reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a
deadbolt. Old lite strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long.
There is about 1 1/2 " between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a
single very heavy duty strike plate to handle both locks
on each door using 6 or 8 3.5" screws driven into the 2
2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware
store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what
I need (the usual case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per
door, installing myself?

Thx,
Will


That's good for the strike plates it would appear. But don't forget the door
itself; is it hearty enough to withstand a good hit? How about the hinges?
How about the door frame all the way aroun d?


(sorry for the direct reply- still fighting with Tbird.)

Strike plates won't help with a typical thin-jambed wood front door from
that era. A solid kick will shatter the door where it is drilled out for
the knob and deadbolt. Unless there is a charming old wood door the
house would look wrong without, just buy a quality steel-clad prehung
door and install it, and be done with it. Make sure it is installed and
shimmed and insulated properly. Another advantage- unless you want the
ability to have the door open for air on those few balmy spring and fall
days, you can deep-six the entire storm door. The heat savings alone
will pay for the door in a few years.

--
aem sends...

HeyBub[_3_] August 19th 11 11:21 AM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
Wilfred Xavier Pickles wrote:
Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set locks on
their doors. Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly
with the little Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats
what I got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear doors. I
need to reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a deadbolt. Old
lite strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 "
between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a single very
heavy duty strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or
8 3.5" screws driven into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.

I checked Lowes and HD online, stopped by 1 hardware store, called a
locksmith. Doesn't look like they have anything like what I need (the
usual case).

Any ideas? Whats the best I could do for, say, $20-40 per door,
installing myself?


Don't know about your particular geometry, but here are a couple of
associated, low-cost, tips:

1. Modest computer skills - and browsing through Google Images - can yield a
"Protected by Blackwater Alarm System" or similar which can be printed on a
transparent label and stuck on your windows and such.

2. 12-gauge shells are about two for a dollar.

3. Motion sensitive lights or motion sensitive recorded dog barks might
help.

4. You might look into how reactive armor works. As I understand, when a
projectile (boot) strikes the reactive armor, the armor explodes violently
destroying the projectile (foot).

5. There are door reinforcement mechanisms that range from a simple drop bar
to a bar that drops down from the door diagonally into a floor anchor. Some
apartment dwellers in New York use a mechanism similar to one found on a
safe; turn the handle and pins extend to all four sides of the door
(probably more than $30, though).

6. Remove one screw from each hinge and replace with a nail that extends
past the hinge about 1". Cut the head off the nail and drill a hole on the
other hinge's face to correspond with the nail. When the door closes, this
resulting metal rod enters the hole and strengthens the hinge side of the
door. This is a modest way of protecting a door with outside-accessible
hinges.



N8N August 19th 11 09:54 PM

Reinforced (door) strike plates
 
On Aug 18, 9:02*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
As you mention Lowe's, this will help with the deadbolt:
* *http://www.lowes.com/pd_14604-76018-...tId=3406786&Nt...

I've seen reinforced strike plates for deadbolts. Don't
bother trying to get one for both locks, just do the
deadbolt. If *you want a quick and simple, you can pilot
hole and then anchor the deadbolt strike with 3 inch
galvanized deck screws in place of the tiny screws the lock
provided.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Wilfred Xavier Pickles" wrote
in messagenews:fodo47p7bo6kds8jppjv9np4oecuuu5e2r@4ax .com...

Little brick bungalow in a midwest US city. Quikset door
locks.

When I moved in 25+ years ago, everybody had just knob-set
locks on their doors.
Burglars got more active, folks added deadbolts, mostly with
the little
Mickey-Mouse screws holding lite strike plates. Thats what I
got now.

Burglars keep getting worse and worse, just kicking in rear
doors. I need to
reinforce my locks.

I got front and rear doors, each with a knob-set and a
deadbolt. Old lite
strike plates are about 2 1/4 " long. There is about 1 1/2 "
between the
plates on the rear door, about 3" betwixt on the front.

I figure I'd be reasonably secure if I could get, say, a
single very heavy duty
strike plate to handle both locks on each door using 6 or 8
3.5" screws driven
into the 2 2x4's in the door frame.


That's the most important thing, long screws that will reach into the
framing. don't forget to replace a couple of the screws in at least
the top and bottom hinge as well. You should predrill the holes to
prevent splitting.

If you want something that gives a more imposing appearance, there's
also metal plates that wrap around the door in the area of the
deadbolt. But really making sure that the strike plates and hinges
are anchored to the framing is Step One in upgrading your security.

good luck

nate


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