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On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote:
Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...n=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill |
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On Aug 1, 8:14*pm, Red Green wrote:
Some discussion of Cu & AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...706&freewheel=.... Fools! They should have taken the condensors too. If you pull the coil out of the case you get $3.65 a pound. |
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Bill Gill wrote in :
On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote: Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...06&freewheel=9 0634&sitesection=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill some theifs don't survive the attempt.... B-) time to put anti-tamper mine fields around power substations. Maybe exploding dye packs to stain the thieves and the stolen metal for later identification. thieves also steal brass pipe valves,air conditioner units,catalytic converters from under PU trucks,and I've seen rebar cages around some of those items to prevent theft. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com |
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Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of
copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! |
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On 8/2/2011 7:05 AM, Jim Yanik wrote:
thieves also steal brass pipe valves,air conditioner units,catalytic converters from under PU trucks,and I've seen rebar cages around some of those items to prevent theft. We've had a rash of catalytic converter thefts around here. MY friend on the next street over had his stolen from his 4Runner. Toyota trucks are favorite targets. It takes them only a minute with a battery powered reciprocating saw. There are several solutions that make it enough of a pain to get the converter that they move on to other targets. http://www.catclamp.com/how.php http://store.winner-intl.com/the-cat-cuff-p27.aspx http://www.cat-lock.com/ None of these would deter a determined thief with unlimited time, but are probably enough to get them to move down the street to the next vehicle. I wound aircraft cable around mine and locked it to the frame. The cables are difficult to cut with the reciprocating saw because they move around so much when cutting. That's what the video of trying to saw a Cat-Cuff also shows. A tight, immobile cable, is easy to cut. |
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On 8/2/2011 11:52 AM, SMS wrote:
On 8/2/2011 7:05 AM, Jim Yanik wrote: thieves also steal brass pipe valves,air conditioner units,catalytic converters from under PU trucks,and I've seen rebar cages around some of those items to prevent theft. We've had a rash of catalytic converter thefts around here. MY friend on the next street over had his stolen from his 4Runner. Toyota trucks are favorite targets. It takes them only a minute with a battery powered reciprocating saw. There are several solutions that make it enough of a pain to get the converter that they move on to other targets. http://www.catclamp.com/how.php http://store.winner-intl.com/the-cat-cuff-p27.aspx http://www.cat-lock.com/ None of these would deter a determined thief with unlimited time, but are probably enough to get them to move down the street to the next vehicle. I wound aircraft cable around mine and locked it to the frame. The cables are difficult to cut with the reciprocating saw because they move around so much when cutting. That's what the video of trying to saw a Cat-Cuff also shows. A tight, immobile cable, is easy to cut. They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. -- aem sends... |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, aemeijers wrote:
On 8/2/2011 11:52 AM, SMS wrote: On 8/2/2011 7:05 AM, Jim Yanik wrote: thieves also steal brass pipe valves,air conditioner units,catalytic converters from under PU trucks,and I've seen rebar cages around some of those items to prevent theft. We've had a rash of catalytic converter thefts around here. MY friend on the next street over had his stolen from his 4Runner. Toyota trucks are favorite targets. It takes them only a minute with a battery powered reciprocating saw. There are several solutions that make it enough of a pain to get the converter that they move on to other targets. http://www.catclamp.com/how.php http://store.winner-intl.com/the-cat-cuff-p27.aspx http://www.cat-lock.com/ None of these would deter a determined thief with unlimited time, but are probably enough to get them to move down the street to the next vehicle. I wound aircraft cable around mine and locked it to the frame. The cables are difficult to cut with the reciprocating saw because they move around so much when cutting. That's what the video of trying to saw a Cat-Cuff also shows. A tight, immobile cable, is easy to cut. They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. It seems to be working down here. There was quite a rash of AC thefts a couple of years ago but I've heard nothing in the (local) news recently. As you note, just force the junk dealers to take IDs for any scrap bought over the counter. Photographs would help, too. |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, aemeijers
wrote: They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. Las Vegas will (honorable scrap yards) take a thumb print, copy of license and if the money paid reaches a set amount checks are issued in lieu of cash. Some crooks haul material to California instead. |
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Oren wrote in news:fu6h37t3iksnl22gif3a3i0h0l3thuljro@
4ax.com: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, aemeijers wrote: They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. Las Vegas will (honorable scrap yards) take a thumb print, copy of license and if the money paid reaches a set amount checks are issued in lieu of cash. Some crooks haul material to California instead. Dumb asses! They could make more $ bringing 100w incandescents. |
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On 8/2/2011 8:57 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, wrote: They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. Las Vegas will (honorable scrap yards) take a thumb print, copy of license and if the money paid reaches a set amount checks are issued in lieu of cash. Some crooks haul material to California instead. Well, you aren't gonna do much to discourage industrial-scale metal harvesting, but few thieves have that kind of front money to set it up as an ongoing operation. And the ones with any brain cells know state border means federal time, if nailed. But the scrap yard as pawn shop rules do mostly weed out the kids, and the low-lifes with bills to pay or a habit to feed, and access to a pickup truck or old station wagon. And hanging the occasional scrap dealer out in public, when obvious stuff like manhole covers or new copper is found in his yard, gets the message across to the other yards pretty quickly. Those cranes and that railroad siding cost a lot of bucks, and no owner will tolerate a counter guy making a few bucks on the side, if it means the place gets padlocked while the cops do a wall-to-wall check of the yard. -- aem sends.... |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:36:46 GMT, Red Green
wrote: Oren wrote in news:fu6h37t3iksnl22gif3a3i0h0l3thuljro@ 4ax.com: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, aemeijers wrote: They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. Las Vegas will (honorable scrap yards) take a thumb print, copy of license and if the money paid reaches a set amount checks are issued in lieu of cash. Some crooks haul material to California instead. Dumb asses! They could make more $ bringing 100w incandescents. Sellin' 100w bulbs requires tooth impressions from the seller and anybody he has ever known. |
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Bill Gill wrote: On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote: Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...n=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill Hmm, In China a guy got killed(zapped) trying to do that. |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:05:21 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote:
Bill Gill wrote: On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote: Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...n=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill Hmm, In China a guy got killed(zapped) trying to do that. Closer to home, last month a guy tried to remove the feeds from what he assumed was an abandoned factory in an industrial park here in NE PA. Snap, crackle, pop and sizzle for him too. General consensus around here was, "Gee. That's too bad." |
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On 8/3/2011 6:08 AM, JKevorkian wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:05:21 -0600, Tony wrote: Bill Gill wrote: On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote: Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...n=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill Hmm, In China a guy got killed(zapped) trying to do that. Closer to home, last month a guy tried to remove the feeds from what he assumed was an abandoned factory in an industrial park here in NE PA. Snap, crackle, pop and sizzle for him too. General consensus around here was, "Gee. That's too bad." Trouble is, he probably already reproduced. -- aem sends.... |
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JKevorkian wrote in
: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:05:21 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote: Bill Gill wrote: On 8/1/2011 7:14 PM, Red Green wrote: Some discussion of Cu& AC thefts recently. http://landing.newsinc.com/shared/vi...2706&freewheel =90634&sitesection=fayetteville Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. Bill Hmm, In China a guy got killed(zapped) trying to do that. Closer to home, last month a guy tried to remove the feeds from what he assumed was an abandoned factory in an industrial park here in NE PA. Snap, crackle, pop and sizzle for him too. General consensus around here was, "Gee. That's too bad." And closer to home here in VT, todays action. http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...=2011108050313 |
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On 8/2/2011 9:01 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:36:46 GMT, Red wrote: wrote in news:fu6h37t3iksnl22gif3a3i0h0l3thuljro@ 4ax.com: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:29:25 -0400, wrote: They KNOW the cure for scrap metal thieves- eliminate the market. Make scrap yards keep log books and get ID from all walk-in sellers, about like a pawn shop. Several states have put that into effect, and it seems to work. Las Vegas will (honorable scrap yards) take a thumb print, copy of license and if the money paid reaches a set amount checks are issued in lieu of cash. Some crooks haul material to California instead. Dumb asses! They could make more $ bringing 100w incandescents. Sellin' 100w bulbs requires tooth impressions from the seller and anybody he has ever known. What?! No DNA sample required? ^_^ TDD |
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On 8/2/2011 10:15 AM, Bill wrote:
Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! The electric utilities should have traps set up with someone watching a video monitor with their hand on a remote control to turn on the high voltage when the vermin climbs over the fence. I can see substations becoming giant bug zappers. ^_^ TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote in news:j2tmr6$a7c$1
@dont-email.me: On 8/2/2011 10:15 AM, Bill wrote: Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! The electric utilities should have traps set up with someone watching a video monitor with their hand on a remote control to turn on the high voltage when the vermin climbs over the fence. I can see substations becoming giant bug zappers. ^_^ TDD It wouldn't require them to have someone watching. Just set up a web page with a button that energizes it. The whole world will compete for the winning click. |
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On 8/22/2011 3:00 PM, Red Green wrote:
The Daring wrote in news:j2tmr6$a7c$1 @dont-email.me: On 8/2/2011 10:15 AM, Bill wrote: Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! The electric utilities should have traps set up with someone watching a video monitor with their hand on a remote control to turn on the high voltage when the vermin climbs over the fence. I can see substations becoming giant bug zappers. ^_^ TDD It wouldn't require them to have someone watching. Just set up a web page with a button that energizes it. The whole world will compete for the winning click. Yea, like that Internet hunting site that had the disabled and shut-ins shooting deer by remote control over The Web. ^_^ TDD |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
... On 8/22/2011 3:00 PM, Red Green wrote: The Daring wrote in news:j2tmr6$a7c$1 @dont-email.me: On 8/2/2011 10:15 AM, Bill wrote: Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! The electric utilities should have traps set up with someone watching a video monitor with their hand on a remote control to turn on the high voltage when the vermin climbs over the fence. I can see substations becoming giant bug zappers. ^_^ TDD It wouldn't require them to have someone watching. Just set up a web page with a button that energizes it. The whole world will compete for the winning click. Yea, like that Internet hunting site that had the disabled and shut-ins shooting deer by remote control over The Web. ^_^ TD Bring popcorn, but you may have to heat it over an open flame til the power is back on. I heard they couldn't even tell the victim's sex until after the autopsy. The remaining wire thieves have been alot more careful since. Person apparently electrocuted at Akron's Rolling Acres Mall Beacon Journal staff Published: April 12, 2011 - 02:40 PM Police and fire crews responding to a reported explosion at the shuttered former Rolling Acres Mall discovered a burning body in the parking lot Tuesday afternoon. Authorities believe someone attempting to remove recyclable materials from the mall somehow came into contact with electrical wires and was electrocuted. Rescue workers have been unable to remove the body until the electrical service is shut off. -- They can have my command prompt when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. |
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On 8/22/2011 10:26 PM, George Jetson wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... On 8/22/2011 3:00 PM, Red Green wrote: The Daring wrote in news:j2tmr6$a7c$1 @dont-email.me: On 8/2/2011 10:15 AM, Bill wrote: Well, here in Tulsa thieves stole several hundred feet of copper wire from a live power substation. They knocked out power to thousands of people in the middle of a heat wave. Personally I don't think I want to go cutting a live wire at 7,000 volts or higher. The electric company in my area has not seemed overly concerned about wire theft from its power poles and substations. I wondered why they were not doing anything??? Then I read about a few people getting electrocuted doing this... Seems they know the problem will take care of itself over time! The electric utilities should have traps set up with someone watching a video monitor with their hand on a remote control to turn on the high voltage when the vermin climbs over the fence. I can see substations becoming giant bug zappers. ^_^ TDD It wouldn't require them to have someone watching. Just set up a web page with a button that energizes it. The whole world will compete for the winning click. Yea, like that Internet hunting site that had the disabled and shut-ins shooting deer by remote control over The Web. ^_^ TD Bring popcorn, but you may have to heat it over an open flame til the power is back on. I heard they couldn't even tell the victim's sex until after the autopsy. The remaining wire thieves have been alot more careful since. Person apparently electrocuted at Akron's Rolling Acres Mall Beacon Journal staff Published: April 12, 2011 - 02:40 PM Police and fire crews responding to a reported explosion at the shuttered former Rolling Acres Mall discovered a burning body in the parking lot Tuesday afternoon. Authorities believe someone attempting to remove recyclable materials from the mall somehow came into contact with electrical wires and was electrocuted. Rescue workers have been unable to remove the body until the electrical service is shut off. I saw a horrible picture of the body of a dead wire thief hanging from a power pole in The Ukraine. I assume it was a man, hard to tell, who came into contact with the high voltage lines during an attempt to steal the wire. It was in a remote area so there's no telling how long the corpse had been hanging there. UGH! What a way to go! :-( TDD |
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