Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Higgs Boson writes:

Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

Baby powder? Does it have a rash?

A picture would help.

I'd be looking to attach a clamp or vise grips
to each and then use the attached parts to gain leverage.

If you can pour water between them, fill the gap and put
the whole thing in the freezer.

--
Dan Espen

On 07/30/2011 04:29 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB
Sledgehammer


--

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB


got an air compressor?
if so, use an air blower between the 2 buckets

On 7/30/2011 5:30 PM, ChairMan wrote:
"Higgs wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB


got an air compressor?
if so, use an air blower between the 2 buckets



You beat me to it. :-)

TDD

if the buckets are metal use a heat lamp pointed at bottom ( heat expands)
outside one then fill inside with cooler water ( cool water will cause it to
contract a bit) this should loosen them up.


.......
"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?


A hose blaster nozzle aimed at the biggest crack between them might inject
enough water pressure to pop them apart.

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Twist em opposite directions, while pulling. That's what we do with those
big orange barrels you see along the roadways.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:29:28 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

You didn't give the water enough time. Submerge the buckets overnight.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:29:28 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

Assuming they're plastic...

Repeatedly swing and strike them against something like a tree. You
want the area at the bottom between them/bottom edge to be the impact
point/s.
-----

- gpsman

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

You got some interesting suggestions that may work. Worst case scenario is
you cut the bottom bucket to allow air in, but save the top (inside) bucket.
Or cut the inside one to vent.

If you are really lucky, you maybe able to drill a hole near the top so the
bucket is not lost and can hold water up to the hole.

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:42:44 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:


"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

You got some interesting suggestions that may work. Worst case scenario is
you cut the bottom bucket to allow air in, but save the top (inside) bucket.
Or cut the inside one to vent.

If you are really lucky, you maybe able to drill a hole near the top so the
bucket is not lost and can hold water up to the hole.

That's half the reason to soak the buckets (to displace the air). Water also
helps lubricate the surfaces.

Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB
Hi,
Fill it up with ice cubes.

It's hard to explain, but I hang onto the outer bucket with
both hands, and use my thumbs to push up on the center
bucket. Might take 30 seconds or so, but I've got the time.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck,
one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying,
banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

I hold the top one by the bail handle, then use a rubber mallet to tap the
top edge of the bottom bucket. I'll wet the inside between them first.
Most times it works unless the buckets are old, and then they just break. I
think they do this on purpose, as it would sure be easy to make them where
they come apart easier.

It's a conspiracy, I tell you!

Steve

Higgs Boson wrote in news:55fbe2c6-60f3-4917-8b55-
:

Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Use the area between the bottoms as a piston. Alternatingly heat and
cool it, while keeping the rim area of the bottom bucket wet with either
water or glycerin (more slippery, doesn't dry up). When you have enough
lubrication, insert a small screwdriver or wire between the buckets to
allow air in. Should work, but it is better to store the buckets with a
small stick between them.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?


The solution might depend on what caused the buckets to become stuck.

* Mere deformation pressure?
* Corrosion?
* Suction?
* Several rivets?

I have drilled a small hole (1/8") in the center of the bottom of the bottom
bucket and used an air tip to blow them apart. It works quite well, though
the bucket doesn't hold water unless you repair the hole. Many bucket uses
do not require water tight.

The bigger issue is what to do to prevent it from happening again. One of
the bestfor me is to hang a rag over the rim of the bucket before stacking
in another. I would appreciate other ideas.


"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

On 7/31/2011 9:56 AM, DanGLT wrote:
....

The bigger issue is what to do to prevent it from happening again. One of
the bestfor me is to hang a rag over the rim of the bucket before stacking
in another. I would appreciate other ideas.
....

The scrap of tubafor or the like in the bottom is simple.

Or, fabricate/attach a permanent lip to the bottom edge as is formed
into many of the plastic ones any more. Easier/simpler w/ straight or
nearly so ones, larger tapers take more of a lip, of course.

Or, same idea but from the other direction, fasten a collar around the
outside to prevent sliding into the other.

--

On 7/31/2011 11:14 AM, dpb wrote:
On 7/31/2011 9:56 AM, DanGLT wrote:
...

The bigger issue is what to do to prevent it from happening again. One of
the bestfor me is to hang a rag over the rim of the bucket before
stacking
in another. I would appreciate other ideas.
...

The scrap of tubafor or the like in the bottom is simple.

Or, fabricate/attach a permanent lip to the bottom edge as is formed
into many of the plastic ones any more. Easier/simpler w/ straight or
nearly so ones, larger tapers take more of a lip, of course.

Or, same idea but from the other direction, fasten a collar around the
outside to prevent sliding into the other.


Like most 5G buckets come out of the mold with in recent years? You can
still nest them, but the inner bucket never goes deeper than the second
lip. Takes up a little more space in the truck and warehouse, but a
worthy tradeoff to avoid them getting coupled like rutting dogs. (or has
that been proven to be a non-urban myth?)

--
aem sends...

On 7/31/2011 7:07 AM, HeyBub wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?


The solution might depend on what caused the buckets to become stuck.

* Mere deformation pressure?
* Corrosion?
* Suction?
* Several rivets?


Some smart ass was playing around with Super Glue.....

TDD

On 7/31/2011 9:56 AM, DanGLT wrote:
I have drilled a small hole (1/8") in the center of the bottom of the bottom
bucket and used an air tip to blow them apart. It works quite well, though
the bucket doesn't hold water unless you repair the hole. Many bucket uses
do not require water tight.

The bigger issue is what to do to prevent it from happening again. One of
the bestfor me is to hang a rag over the rim of the bucket before stacking
in another. I would appreciate other ideas.


"Higgs wrote in message
...
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB



A piece of vinyl plastic or rubber tubing between the buckets when you
nest them.

TDD

In ,
Higgs Boson typed:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are
stuck, one inside the other. I and other neighbors,
strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying,
banging, even pouring water around the rim of the bottom
one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Describe the buckets & what they're made of an you might get more than
guesses.

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:11:25 -0400, "Twayne"
wrote:

In ,
Higgs Boson typed:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are
stuck, one inside the other. I and other neighbors,
strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying,
banging, even pouring water around the rim of the bottom
one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB

Describe the buckets & what they're made of an you might get more than
guesses.


Facts? You want facts? Don't let facts interfere with the writhing of
a good guesses :-/

Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB
Olive oil(in the gap between them!!)

On Jul 30, 10:02*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. *I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. *Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? *Or...?

HB

Hi,
Fill it up with ice cubes.

.....and heat up the outside.

Jimmie

Sjouke Burry wrote the following:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB
Olive oil(in the gap between them!!)
and some balsamic vinegar, shredded lettuce, sliced cucumbers, sliced
radish, cubed tomatoes, chopped bell peppers, and sliced onions.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:57:06 -0400, willshak
wrote:

Olive oil(in the gap between them!!)

and some balsamic vinegar, shredded lettuce, sliced cucumbers, sliced
radish, cubed tomatoes, chopped bell peppers, and sliced onions.

You don't like bacon?

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:57:06 -0400, willshak
wrote:

Olive oil(in the gap between them!!)

and some balsamic vinegar, shredded lettuce, sliced cucumbers, sliced
radish, cubed tomatoes, chopped bell peppers, and sliced onions.

You don't like bacon?

WHAT ! ? WASTE BACON ON A PLASTIC BUCKET. Oren, go lie down until you come
around, Buddy. You're just not right in the head. If I was stranded on a
desert island and had my choice of one food, ..................

you guessed it. ;-)

Steve

--


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Higgs Boson wrote in news:55fbe2c6-60f3-4917-8b55-
:

Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB


All these ammusing replies (and they are).

I say shotgun.

Red Green wrote the following:
Higgs Boson wrote in news:55fbe2c6-60f3-4917-8b55-
:


Is this an engineering problem or what?

Two of the buckets I use around the garden, etc. are stuck, one inside
the other. I and other neighbors, strong ones,
have tried like hell to separate them. Thumping, prying, banging, even
pouring water around the rim of the bottom one.
Nada. Niente. Nichts. Rien.

This has become a challenge.

What next? Baby powder? Or...?

HB



All these ammusing replies (and they are).

I say shotgun.

I was going to say that, but I already used it in the wasps nest thread.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4, and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"willshak" wrote in message
m...


All these ammusing replies (and they are).

I say shotgun.

I was going to say that, but I already used it in the wasps
nest thread.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:17 GMT, Red Green
wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun. Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just falls
free in a few days.
--
Mr.E

On 8/5/2011 9:53 AM, Mr.E wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:17 GMT, Red
wrote:

"Stormin wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun. Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just falls
free in a few days.

'Usually'? This happens to you a lot, does it? Heck, I'm an idiot, and
it only takes me once or twice to learn things.

--
aem sends...

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:09:25 -0400, aemeijers
wrote:

On 8/5/2011 9:53 AM, Mr.E wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:17 GMT, Red
wrote:

"Stormin wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun. Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just falls
free in a few days.

'Usually'? This happens to you a lot, does it? Heck, I'm an idiot, and
it only takes me once or twice to learn things.
I pick them up on job sites and trash putouts. They get stuck and
folks pitch em. Waste not, want not.
--
Mr.E

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:53:03 -0400, Mr.E wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:09:25 -0400, aemeijers
wrote:

On 8/5/2011 9:53 AM, Mr.E wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:17 GMT, Red
wrote:

"Stormin wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun. Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just falls
free in a few days.

'Usually'? This happens to you a lot, does it? Heck, I'm an idiot, and
it only takes me once or twice to learn things.

I pick them up on job sites and trash putouts. They get stuck and
folks pitch em. Waste not, want not.

Be careful....some buckets have doo-do in them. I warned you!

On 8/5/2011 10:23 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:53:03 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:09:25 -0400,
wrote:

On 8/5/2011 9:53 AM, Mr.E wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:30:17 GMT, Red
wrote:

"Stormin wrote in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well? :-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun. Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just falls
free in a few days.

'Usually'? This happens to you a lot, does it? Heck, I'm an idiot, and
it only takes me once or twice to learn things.

I pick them up on job sites and trash putouts. They get stuck and
folks pitch em. Waste not, want not.

Be careful....some buckets have doo-do in them. I warned you!

Chuckle. BTDT. I learned early on, as a kid doing construction cleanup,
that if the lid was pounded back on to the drywall bucket, DON'T PULL
THE DAMN LID OFF. Find another bucket or box to carry the sweepings from
that apartment out to the truck or dumpster.

I guess walking 100 yards to the porta-potty was just too damn much
trouble for some guys.

--
aem sends...

Well, golly. How do you think we get converts at the end of
the month when our numbers are low?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Red Green" wrote in message
...
"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in news:j1ebk6
:

Put the buckets out about 25 yards, and give it a load of
#4,

Mormon fun, ehhh? Are you folks Drive-by proponents as well?
:-)

and that should punch some vent holes in the outer
bucket. Release the vapor pressure.

Don't wasps and hornets nest up in there?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Mr.E" wrote in message

I usually hang the buckets from a fence that is in full sun.
Duct tape
or inner tube strips on the outer bucket only with the
openings down.
Heating/cooling will push the bottom bucket down and it just
falls
free in a few days.
--
Mr.E