Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In Psych 101 they teach that if you put a reward in a maze, a mouse will
learn the maze and find the reward. If you then stop putting the reward
at the end of the maze, the mouse will soon stop running the maze. The
difference between humans and mice is that humans will run the maze
forever, years after the reward is gone.

IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?

Smitty Two wrote in news
In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In Psych 101 they teach that if you put a reward in a maze, a mouse will
learn the maze and find the reward. If you then stop putting the reward
at the end of the maze, the mouse will soon stop running the maze. The
difference between humans and mice is that humans will run the maze
forever, years after the reward is gone.

aka... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[Frequently mentioned in a program I became associated with 25yrs ago :-) ]


IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?

On 7/30/2011 6:56 PM, Red Green wrote:
Smitty wrote in news
In article
,
Higgs wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In Psych 101 they teach that if you put a reward in a maze, a mouse will
learn the maze and find the reward. If you then stop putting the reward
at the end of the maze, the mouse will soon stop running the maze. The
difference between humans and mice is that humans will run the maze
forever, years after the reward is gone.

aka... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[Frequently mentioned in a program I became associated with 25yrs ago :-) ]


IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?



Posting through Google appears to be problem. His post is not even
there but shows up in eternal-september.
He's probably not seeing responses to his last two posts.

"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news
In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In Psych 101 they teach that if you put a reward in a maze, a mouse will
learn the maze and find the reward. If you then stop putting the reward
at the end of the maze, the mouse will soon stop running the maze. The
difference between humans and mice is that humans will run the maze
forever, years after the reward is gone.

IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?

The Google thing is more user friendly.
The threads are easier to follow.
It's not working in the UK this last three days either..

harryagain wrote:

The Google thing is more user friendly.
The threads are easier to follow.
It's not working in the UK this last three days either..

User friendly with posts running days behind? I don't think so.

Your point about threads being easier to follow is a good one. I use Outlook
Express augmented by "OE-QuoteFix." The later civilizes and colorizes the
threads.

On Jul 31, 12:58*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
harryagain wrote:

The Google thing is more user friendly.
The threads are easier to follow.
It's not working in the UK this last three days either..

User friendly with posts running days behind? I don't think so.

Your point about threads being easier to follow is a good one. I use Outlook
Express augmented by "OE-QuoteFix." The later civilizes and colorizes the
threads.

Over the years the times when posts are not being updated are
extremely rare. This year seems to be an anomaly as it has happened
several times.

Harry K

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:19:14 +0100, "harryagain"
wrote:

IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?

The Google thing is more user friendly.

Says Who?

The threads are easier to follow.

Who said that?!

It's not working in the UK this last three days either..


Strike Two.

Because you are a nym-shifter, beating filters AND your last fault is
being a subject of the Queen.

You _uphill gardener_ limey!

On Jul 31, 10:19*am, "harryagain" wrote:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message

news




In article
,
Higgs Boson wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

In Psych 101 they teach that if you put a reward in a maze, a mouse will
learn the maze and find the reward. If you then stop putting the reward
at the end of the maze, the mouse will soon stop running the maze. The
difference between humans and mice is that humans will run the maze
forever, years after the reward is gone.

IOW, why the **** are you still using a web browser to read usenet?

The Google thing is more user friendly.
The threads are easier to follow.
It's not working in the UK this last three days either..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep. I tried several different news readers. All the bells and
whistles get in the way of what I want to do, i.e., just read the damn
posts.

Harry K

In article
,
Harry K wrote:

Yep. I tried several different news readers. All the bells and
whistles get in the way of what I want to do, i.e., just read the damn
posts.

Pure nonsense. Utter nonsense. Complete nonsense. Reading NEWSgroups
with a NEWSreader is at least one order of magnitude simpler, easier,
and more intuitive than the god-awful www-based google portal.

Here's my analogy for today: Crayons and typewriters are both useful.
Trying to type with a crayon is idiotic.

Higgs Boson wrote in news:7caaddff-3632-458f-a27f-
:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

Do I really have to repeat it again?
I paid $10 in June 2008 for 25GB of usenet downloads to astraweb.com,
Since then I have been on usenet just about daily, via my ISP and a
newsreader, in my case Xnews, which is free and runs on all windows
editions. I still have 24GB available for future downloads. I don't do
many binaries, that's true ... But they are available, and astraweb has
tremendous retention.

Higgs, it's up to you now ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

I know of at least 25 alternatives to Google Groups, free or low cost. Use
one.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

I know of at least 25 alternatives to Google Groups, free or low cost.
Use one.

response to this message was less than 30 seconds.

Higgs Boson wrote:

Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine
have not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

Don't be a lame google-grouper.

Use a real usenet client, and point it to a free server, like
nntp.aioe.org.

PS: How's the weather in LA. Santa Monica?

On Jul 31, 5:51*am, Home Guy wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine
have not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

Don't be a lame google-grouper.

Use a real usenet client, and point it to a free server, like
nntp.aioe.org.

PS: *How's the weather in LA. *Santa Monica?

Perfect! After a weird cool Spring and some unseasonal hot spells,
it's back to Optimum.

On Jul 31, 5:51*am, Home Guy wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine
have not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

Don't be a lame google-grouper.

Use a real usenet client, and point it to a free server, like
nntp.aioe.org.

PS: *How's the weather in LA. *Santa Monica?

I looked up nntp.aioe.org. It looks promising. Sorry for my
ignorance, but what would be an example of a "real usenet client""?
I assume this is different from an email client?

Google is again stuck (at Aug 1) so dunno if you will see this, but
would like to follow up on your suggestion.

The weather here in Santa Monica is absolutely PERFECT, after an iffy
spring and a peculiar beginning of summer. BTW, the weather in LA,
though barely a few miles to the East, can be much different. At
least 20 degrees hotter, and in the Valleys sometimes more so.

HB

On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Jul 31, 5:51*am, Home Guy wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine
have not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

Don't be a lame google-grouper.

Use a real usenet client, and point it to a free server, like
nntp.aioe.org.

PS: *How's the weather in LA. *Santa Monica?

I looked up nntp.aioe.org. It looks promising. Sorry for my
ignorance, but what would be an example of a "real usenet client""?

Agent($29), Gravity(free), Thunderbird(free).

I assume this is different from an email client?

Different, yes, but often one program does both.

Google is again stuck (at Aug 1) so dunno if you will see this, but
would like to follow up on your suggestion.

The weather here in Santa Monica is absolutely PERFECT, after an iffy
spring and a peculiar beginning of summer. BTW, the weather in LA,
though barely a few miles to the East, can be much different. At
least 20 degrees hotter, and in the Valleys sometimes more so.

HB

" wrote in
:

On Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Jul 31, 5:51*am, Home Guy wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine
have not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

Don't be a lame google-grouper.

Use a real usenet client, and point it to a free server, like
nntp.aioe.org.

PS: *How's the weather in LA. *Santa Monica?

I looked up nntp.aioe.org. It looks promising. Sorry for my
ignorance, but what would be an example of a "real usenet client""?

Agent($29), Gravity(free), Thunderbird(free).

Xnews is free too. Principally a newsreader.

I assume this is different from an email client?

Different, yes, but often one program does both.

Google is again stuck (at Aug 1) so dunno if you will see this, but
would like to follow up on your suggestion.

The weather here in Santa Monica is absolutely PERFECT, after an iffy
spring and a peculiar beginning of summer. BTW, the weather in LA,
though barely a few miles to the East, can be much different. At
least 20 degrees hotter, and in the Valleys sometimes more so.

HB




--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 7/30/2011 5:26 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

Instead of all of the constant "google is not working today" complaints
why not just get an account someplace and use a real newsreader?

I moved to eternal september after comcast turned off access to save the
children.

George wrote:
On 7/30/2011 5:26 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

Instead of all of the constant "google is not working today"
complaints why not just get an account someplace and use a real
newsreader?
I moved to eternal september after comcast turned off access to save
the children.

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink. Earthlink
provides Giganews for free.

On 7/31/2011 4:07 PM, HeyBub wrote:

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink. Earthlink
provides Giganews for free.

Both Comcast and Earthlink are ISP's. If Comcast provides "the pipe",
then Comcast is your ISP. ISP and PIPE are different words for the same
thing.

I don't know zip about Earthlink but if it is also your ISP (pipe), then
you have 2 ISP's, one of which also provides your news feed via
Giganews. Makes no sense to me?

--
Jack
You're never too old to learn something stupid.
http://jbstein.com

Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/31/2011 4:07 PM, HeyBub wrote:

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink.
Earthlink provides Giganews for free.

Both Comcast and Earthlink are ISP's. If Comcast provides "the pipe",
then Comcast is your ISP. ISP and PIPE are different words for the
same thing.

I don't know zip about Earthlink but if it is also your ISP (pipe),
then you have 2 ISP's, one of which also provides your news feed via
Giganews. Makes no sense to me?

It makes no sense because your definitions are wrong.

An ISP is an entity that provides connection to the internet. In my case,
Comcast provides the wire over which digital information flows, be it
internet, VoIP, or television (both digital and analog). Again in my case,
Comcast provides NO interconnection of my data stream to the internet.
Comcast DOES connect my data stream to Earthlink which, in turn, provides
access to the internet.

Comcast IS an ISP for others, but not for me.

On 8/14/2011 6:30 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/31/2011 4:07 PM, HeyBub wrote:

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink.
Earthlink provides Giganews for free.

Both Comcast and Earthlink are ISP's. If Comcast provides "the pipe",
then Comcast is your ISP. ISP and PIPE are different words for the
same thing.

I don't know zip about Earthlink but if it is also your ISP (pipe),
then you have 2 ISP's, one of which also provides your news feed via
Giganews. Makes no sense to me?

It makes no sense because your definitions are wrong.

An ISP is an entity that provides connection to the internet.

Yep, that's my definition as well.

In my case,Comcast provides the wire over which digital information
flows, be it
internet, VoIP, or television (both digital and analog).

Yep, that's what I said. Comcast provides your connection to the
internet, Comcast is your ISP.

Again in my case,
Comcast provides NO interconnection of my data stream to the internet.

Excuse me, but didn't you just say "Comcast provides the wire over which
digital information flows"? Yes, you did. The next sentence you say
comcast provides no interconnection of your data stream? I don't get
it, the data stream from your computer to the internet is provided by
Comcast, that's how your data gets there, by your definition, my
definition and by your own statements, ergo, comcast is your ISP.

Comcast DOES connect my data stream to Earthlink which, in turn, provides
access to the internet.

I guess I just don't understand what Earthlink is doing for you, or at
least it makes no sense to me.

Comcast IS an ISP for others, but not for me.

Right, they just provide the wire (connection) from you to the internet.
Comcast is also my "pipe" but my ISP is eternal-september, because
that's who I get my newsgroups from? Comcast's "wire" takes me right to
my internet host that hosts my web page, are they my ISP?

I really don't get what you are doing? Perhaps I don't get what comcast
is doing, but your statements are not clearing anything up.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

On 8/14/2011 5:58 PM, Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/31/2011 4:07 PM, HeyBub wrote:

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink. Earthlink
provides Giganews for free.

Both Comcast and Earthlink are ISP's. If Comcast provides "the pipe",
then Comcast is your ISP. ISP and PIPE are different words for the same
thing.

I don't know zip about Earthlink but if it is also your ISP (pipe), then
you have 2 ISP's, one of which also provides your news feed via
Giganews. Makes no sense to me?


Uh, not always. I kept ATT as my ISP when I went with a 3rd party DSL
provider, because the DSL provider barely offered mail, and a zillion
people have my ATT address. ATT doesn't offer DSL in my neighborhood,
even though the 3rd-party company is right next to them downtown. So
which one is my ISP? ATT calls it 'bring your own' connectivity, and
discounts the price. Most so-called ISPs, the rapidly vanishing ma'n'pa
companies us old folks started with, are just resellers anyway.

--
aem sends...

On 8/14/2011 6:41 PM, aemeijers wrote:
On 8/14/2011 5:58 PM, Jack Stein wrote:
On 7/31/2011 4:07 PM, HeyBub wrote:

In my case, Comcast provides the pipe, but my ISP is Earthlink.
Earthlink
provides Giganews for free.

Both Comcast and Earthlink are ISP's. If Comcast provides "the pipe",
then Comcast is your ISP. ISP and PIPE are different words for the same
thing.

I don't know zip about Earthlink but if it is also your ISP (pipe), then
you have 2 ISP's, one of which also provides your news feed via
Giganews. Makes no sense to me?

Uh, not always. I kept ATT as my ISP when I went with a 3rd party DSL
provider, because the DSL provider barely offered mail, and a zillion
people have my ATT address. ATT doesn't offer DSL in my neighborhood,
even though the 3rd-party company is right next to them downtown. So
which one is my ISP?

If you ask me, and you did, your ISP is the one that provides your
connection to the internet. In your case whomever provides your DSL.
ATT simply is handling your email, similar, I guess, to what Google will
do for you with gmail or MS hotmail. AT&T ceased being your ISP when
they disconnected you.

ATT calls it 'bring your own' connectivity, and
discounts the price.

I would hope so, you can get free email all over the place. Generally
when people change their email address they just email everyone with the
new address. I'm sure there may be business reasons for not doing that,
but still, your email provider's not your ISP, your ISP provides the
connection, ie wire, pipe, tube, satellite link etc.

Most so-called ISPs, the rapidly vanishing ma'n'pa
companies us old folks started with, are just resellers anyway.

True dat.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

The reason I finally got a backup, or primary.
Google tends to be easier for me on the iPad.

Greg

On Jul 30, 2:26*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

I do appreciate the many (civil) replies suggesting various free or
paid newsreaders. I had even begun to do some on-line investigating
between 7/29 and 8/1, but hadn't arrived at a choice when Google
suddenly sprang back to life.

Please don't think I'm a rat in a maze, or whatever the unkind
suggestion was: I can make a perfectly rational decision if I am
motivated to do so. However, most of the users of "regular"
newsreaders who have shared their experience seem to use their
newsreaders far, far more than I do, and for downloading exotica that
are beyond my ken.

I visit only a very few NGs, and get my news from the radio and from
on-line newspapers and other sources of my choice. So I have limited
motivation to get a dedicated newsreader. During the many years when
my email client was the fabulous Agent and its NG component, all was
copacetic (my, that goes back a way!).

For some reason - I think connected with traveling a lot ?-- I needed
an email client that I could access via the Web, so that's when I
signed up for Verizon (tfui, tfui) and subsequently Gmail in order to
diversify; now I have several other email accounts.

Although I find it annoying when Google Groups takes a long nap, I
don't at this point have the motivation to buy a newsreader. However,
I will gratefully consider all free, or economical and ETHICAL
newsreader suggestions.

TIA

HB

Higgs Boson wrote in news:864f0369-acfd-4faa-b348-
:

On Jul 30, 2:26*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

I do appreciate the many (civil) replies suggesting various free or
paid newsreaders. I had even begun to do some on-line investigating
between 7/29 and 8/1, but hadn't arrived at a choice when Google
suddenly sprang back to life.

Please don't think I'm a rat in a maze, or whatever the unkind
suggestion was: I can make a perfectly rational decision if I am
motivated to do so. However, most of the users of "regular"
newsreaders who have shared their experience seem to use their
newsreaders far, far more than I do, and for downloading exotica that
are beyond my ken.

I visit only a very few NGs, and get my news from the radio and from
on-line newspapers and other sources of my choice. So I have limited
motivation to get a dedicated newsreader. During the many years when
my email client was the fabulous Agent and its NG component, all was
copacetic (my, that goes back a way!).

For some reason - I think connected with traveling a lot ?-- I needed
an email client that I could access via the Web, so that's when I
signed up for Verizon (tfui, tfui) and subsequently Gmail in order to
diversify; now I have several other email accounts.

Although I find it annoying when Google Groups takes a long nap, I
don't at this point have the motivation to buy a newsreader. However,
I will gratefully consider all free, or economical and ETHICAL
newsreader suggestions.

TIA

HB

Try Xnews. Just a download, no installation nonsense necessary. Use
this link to the original site and do download the latest test version.
http://xnews.newsguy.com/

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Higgs Boson wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:26 pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

I do appreciate the many (civil) replies suggesting various free or
paid newsreaders. I had even begun to do some on-line investigating
between 7/29 and 8/1, but hadn't arrived at a choice when Google
suddenly sprang back to life.

Please don't think I'm a rat in a maze, or whatever the unkind
suggestion was: I can make a perfectly rational decision if I am
motivated to do so. However, most of the users of "regular"
newsreaders who have shared their experience seem to use their
newsreaders far, far more than I do, and for downloading exotica that
are beyond my ken.

I visit only a very few NGs, and get my news from the radio and from
on-line newspapers and other sources of my choice. So I have limited
motivation to get a dedicated newsreader. During the many years when
my email client was the fabulous Agent and its NG component, all was
copacetic (my, that goes back a way!).

For some reason - I think connected with traveling a lot ?-- I needed
an email client that I could access via the Web, so that's when I
signed up for Verizon (tfui, tfui) and subsequently Gmail in order to
diversify; now I have several other email accounts.

Although I find it annoying when Google Groups takes a long nap, I
don't at this point have the motivation to buy a newsreader. However,
I will gratefully consider all free, or economical and ETHICAL
newsreader suggestions.


You don't have to "get" a newreader. One came with your operating system.

On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 14:27:35 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Although I find it annoying when Google Groups takes a long nap, I
don't at this point have the motivation to buy a newsreader. However,
I will gratefully consider all free, or economical and ETHICAL
newsreader suggestions.


You don't have to "get" a newreader. One came with your operating system.

This horse was beaten well last month. At least I thought so. Maybe we
can go again next month and do it on a monthly basis.

OP asked:

Straight question.


What is the purpose of paying for a newsreader? Is it to access news
groups? For that purpose, is Google really so awful? Esp, for
people who visit only a few NGs?


(Note: I had one of the BEST email clients for years -- Forte Agent.
Swift, powerful, sophisticated.
But when they discontinued NG access, I went to a Web-based email
client. I guess I could still use Agent just for email, but now I'm
sot in me ways.


Or do people pay for a newsreader to follow the news, period. If the
latter, why not just go to news sources on-line?


Have been puzzling about this for some time.


Enlightenment, anyone?


HB

Department of Redundancy Department

Higgs Boson wrote:

I do appreciate the many (civil) replies suggesting various free
or paid newsreaders.

Paid newsreaders?

What usenet client software is not free?

I don't at this point have the motivation to buy a newsreader.

I wasn't reading this entire thread. What usenet client software was
mentioned in this thread as having a cost associated with it?

However, I will gratefully consider all free, or economical
and ETHICAL newsreader suggestions.

What would a non-ethical newsreader suggestion look like?

I use Netscape Communicator 4.79 for reading news.

It's one of Netscape's old e-mail/usenet client programs. When paired
with Netscape Navigator, it was Netscape's complete internet "suite" for
home and soho users back in (and prior to) 2001.

It can be downloaded from he

http://downloads.5star-network.com/I...t/cc32d478.exe

Here's what the user-interface looks like:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/.../navigator.gif

Very fast and efficient and organized way to read and post to usenet. I
dare anyone to show me something better.

Google groups is an utter joke for reading and posting to usenet.

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:29:52 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

What would a non-ethical newsreader suggestion look like?

One you STEAL from a file server that violates the license agreement.

You know like movies, music, etc.

Why do I have to think of everything?

Oren wrote:

What would a non-ethical newsreader suggestion look like?

One you STEAL from a file server that violates the license
agreement.

No - really.

I want to know if there is such a thing as a non-free, non-shareware
usenet client.

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:27:56 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

Oren wrote:

What would a non-ethical newsreader suggestion look like?

One you STEAL from a file server that violates the license
agreement.

No - really.

I want to know if there is such a thing as a non-free, non-shareware
usenet client.

Agent.

http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:29:52 -0400, Home Guy wrote:


I use Netscape Communicator 4.79 for reading news.

That must really suck on the Win98 box you have.

Come forth into the age of enlightenment.

Is it like running 32 bit software on an 8 bit platform, written by a
2 bit outfit?

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:54:49 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:29:52 -0400, Home Guy wrote:


I use Netscape Communicator 4.79 for reading news.

That must really suck on the Win98 box you have.

Come forth into the age of enlightenment.

Is it like running 32 bit software on an 8 bit platform, written by a
2 bit outfit?

....who can't stand 1 bit of competition.

Oren wrote:

I use Netscape Communicator 4.79 for reading news.

That must really suck on the Win98 box you have.

Netscape Communicator 4.79 runs on XP. Don't know about Vista or 7.

Come forth into the age of enlightenment.

You mean - come forth into the age of malware infection, botnet control,
and Microsoft Genuine disAdvantage.

Sorry. I like my Win32 OS with a nice big helping of root access for
the operator.

KernelEx API layer allows me to run a wide variety of supposedly XP-only
software.

My win-98 systems have 1.5 gb ram and several TB worth of SATA drives, 2
and 3 Ghz Pentium and Core2 CPU's, universal USB mass storage drivers.

On Jul 30, 4:26*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

Same here. My Google Groups connection has dozed for 2-4 days at a
time, several times, during the past month or so.

On Jul 30, 4:26*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
Google must be taking one of its naps. *Several messages of mine have
not appeared after days.

Anybody else?

HB

So noted here.
Newsreaders might work now, but were a superfluous layer when Google
was awake. This message will likely not be seen by anyone using
Google. For the wealthy newsreader users, send me an eMail if this is
visible. Tried some newsreaders before, nothing but chaos.

Joe

Joe wrote:

Newsreaders might work now, but were a superfluous layer when
Google was awake.

Newsreaders are/were superfluous layer?

You are nuts.

It's google-"groups" that's the superfluous layer.

Where exacytly have you been during the past 10 or 20 years?

This message will likely not be seen by anyone using Google.

Nobody should be using google to access usenet.

For the wealthy newsreader users, send me an eMail if this is
visible. Tried some newsreaders before, nothing but chaos.

You are a moron if you really believe that.

"wealthy" newsreader users?

There are 10 times as many free usenet client software programs as there
are paid programs.

If you knew anything about this, you'd know that a usenet client is
practically identical to an e-mail client in terms of functionality and
program layout. Many e-mail clients are also usenet clients.