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Gray water leachfield
I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain
grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide |
Gray water leachfield
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:41:32 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? No, yes and sure. Plant some citrus trees along the drain field. Put a delimiter in your sig file... dash, dash, space and a return (enter key) -- then the sig file after that. Lemon, lime, and tangerines will do well along the gray water field. Same for oranges. |
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"Oren" wrote Put a delimiter in your sig file... dash, dash, space and a return (enter key) -- then the sig file after that. What is that for? Like -- Those dashes? Steve |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:18:45 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Oren" wrote Put a delimiter in your sig file... dash, dash, space and a return (enter key) -- then the sig file after that. What is that for? Like Yes! Exactly. See how the sig file truncated... No need for repetitive postings -- when the delimiter is missing and people repeat the sig file. We already know.. on the first read. Without a delimiter people repeat the same thing over and over. Not necessary IMO. We know you already. -- Now we know why some animals eat their own children. |
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"Oren" wrote Put a delimiter in your sig file... dash, dash, space and a return (enter key) -- then the sig file after that. What is that for? Like Yes! Exactly. See how the sig file truncated... No need for repetitive postings -- when the delimiter is missing and people repeat the sig file. We already know.. on the first read. Without a delimiter people repeat the same thing over and over. Not necessary IMO. We know you already. I'm just going to trust you on this. Please let me know what you see, and if it is done right and working properly. I think I get it, but I have made that mistake before. Thanks for the help. Now, any help on the greywater question? Steve -- Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:39:45 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Oren" wrote Put a delimiter in your sig file... dash, dash, space and a return (enter key) -- then the sig file after that. What is that for? Like Yes! Exactly. See how the sig file truncated... No need for repetitive postings -- when the delimiter is missing and people repeat the sig file. We already know.. on the first read. Without a delimiter people repeat the same thing over and over. Not necessary IMO. We know you already. I'm just going to trust you on this. Please let me know what you see, and if it is done right and working properly. I think I get it, but I have made that mistake before. Thanks for the help. Perfect. Now, any help on the greywater question? Steve I know you will do what you want, given the rural area. My opinion is to not worry about such a trivial drain. I can be wrong, -- I like you. People say I've got no taste, but I like you. |
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On Jul 27, 3:41*am, "Steve B" wrote:
I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. |
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harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. The earth will heal itself, meanwhile the saved money could go to help find a cure for cancer, promote world peace, or subsidize the cowboy poetry contest. |
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On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP? |
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On Jul 27, 3:11*am, harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:41*am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money WTF, plants love grey water. putting it into the topsoil is the best thing that you could do. better there than into the bay where it can cause problems. nate |
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"N8N" wrote in message ... On Jul 27, 3:11 am, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money WTF, plants love grey water. putting it into the topsoil is the best thing that you could do. better there than into the bay where it can cause problems. nate Actually, I was going to run it to my medical marijuana plants. Strictly for medical, you understand.................... Steve -- Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. |
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On Jul 27, 3:11*am, harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 3:41*am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What total nonsense. It would not be poisoning the earth anymore than a similar leach field from the millions of homes with septic systems. As for graywater, in some areas it's actually OK and encouraged to capture and use for lawn watering and similar. |
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On Jul 27, 12:30*pm, ZeroWorship wrote:
On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve *wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. |
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On Jul 27, 1:17*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 27, 3:11*am, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41*am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What total nonsense. * It would not be poisoning the earth anymore than a similar leach field from the millions of homes with septic systems. * As for graywater, in some areas it's actually OK and encouraged to capture and use for lawn watering and similar.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Septic tanks break down many harmful chemicals. Just chucking it into the soil is irresponsible and may pollute neighbour's wells or nearby rivers. |
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harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 12:30 pm, ZeroWorship wrote: On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. BP used emulsifiers to spread their pollutants around the world. Not exactly what you'd call good citizens. |
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Steve B wrote:
I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? I wouldn't worry about it. There's not much used in brewing that wouldn't be OK for watering your plants, AFAIK. |
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"Bob F" wrote in message ... harry wrote: On Jul 27, 12:30 pm, ZeroWorship wrote: On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. BP used emulsifiers to spread their pollutants around the world. Not exactly what you'd call good citizens. Life is not fair. What else is new? No go take your pills and change the tinfoil in your hat to the aluminum variety. Steve |
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Steve B wrote:
"Bob F" wrote in message ... harry wrote: On Jul 27, 12:30 pm, ZeroWorship wrote: On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. BP used emulsifiers to spread their pollutants around the world. Not exactly what you'd call good citizens. Life is not fair. What else is new? No go take your pills and change the tinfoil in your hat to the aluminum variety. No foil had required. This is well documented. |
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On Jul 26, 10:41*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Where are you located ? Do your state regulations consider grey water to be sewage ? Your county permitting process for installing a septic system would have to be followed, every state regulates this sort of thing... It sounds as if you need to look into the state laws on this to see if grey water is considered sewage and would have to have the full gamut of pre-install permitting and soil perc testing before you can start digging... It also sounds to me like you want to carefully consider where you locate this grey water discharge system as if it is too close to your septic system discharging all of the soaps, sanitizers and the like can affect your black water septic system as those sorts of chemicals tend to kill the bacteria in the septic system which process the waste... I have not done this before but have observed the process through attending hearings where septic system designs were considered and approved after hearing the reports from the perc testing and the hydrologist's report on the conditions of the water table and aquifer in the area... Advice: Seek out an expert in the design and permitting in septic systems in your state -- you might be an early adopter of a grey water system... In no case should you be digging trenches and putting a system in by yourself without a permit... YOU may know what that drain should be used for but will future owners or users of your property know that your homemade and un-permitted grey water system doen't have a septic tank and therefore shouldn't have certain things drained into it ? Suggestion: Same as advice only with the addition that you should seek out environmental type water conservationists in your area and see what advice they have, what licensed experts they recommend you get design advice/assistance from and perhaps they might know of how to apply for special permitting... Good Luck... ~~ Evan |
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On 7/27/2011 1:49 PM, harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 12:30 pm, wrote: On 7/27/2011 3:11 AM, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. limey *******. |
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On Jul 26, 10:41*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Check county codes for installing a dry well. JImmie |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? |
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:10:43 -0400, ZeroWorship
wrote: You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. limey *******. Kind of a weak comeback there, Zero... You could have called him an "uphill gardener"! A limey ******* noun. |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? Hold your phone calls, folks. We do have a winner. Thanks, Oren. My sediments exactly. I was asking more along the lines of construction techniques, but guess everyone went off on a legal tangent. Forgiveness is easier to get than approval. Steve -- Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. |
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N8N wrote:
WTF, plants love grey water. putting it into the topsoil is the best thing that you could do. better there than into the bay where it can cause problems. Yep. You've got to consider the downstream (no pun intended) consequences. Just last year, Seattle finally got with the program and quit using salt on its icy roadways after someone pointed out that the salt would pass through the storm sewer system into Pugent Sound. |
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On Jul 27, 11:38*am, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:44:19 -0700 (PDT), N8N wrote: On Jul 27, 3:11 am, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41 am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? Advice? Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money WTF, plants love grey water. *putting it into the topsoil is the best thing that you could do. *better there than into the bay where it can cause problems. nate I agree. My washing machine has been dumping out under my banana trees for 3 decades and they seem to love it. As long as the water is not draining directly into a waterway and you are not dumping any kind of persistent chemicals, I don't see a problem.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's how the washing machine in my grandparents house was plumbed as well. Dumped on the gournd. That might be the answer. A leechfield for the water used to wash out beer vats might just be over engineering this problem. Just dump it on the ground. |
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On 7/28/2011 12:24 AM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:10:43 -0400, wrote: You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money. like BP?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BP cleaned up . Unlike Chevron. http://theamazonpost.com/tag/oil-spills Or the Torrey Canyon. F***g Yanks again. limey *******. Kind of a weak comeback there, Zero... You could have called him an "uphill gardener"! A limey ******* noun. certain plants need good drainage and gardening up hill might be the right thing to do if rainfall or irrigation is adequate. uphill gardener. somehow I don't think this is the gardener you are referring to. but after googling it up I concur. those limey *******s sure do have a lot of different ways to say the same thing. |
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On Jul 27, 1:51*pm, harry wrote:
On Jul 27, 1:17*pm, " wrote: On Jul 27, 3:11*am, harry wrote: On Jul 27, 3:41*am, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide You would be poisoning the earth unless you use biodegradeables and even then, many are suspect. Typical f**g Yank, poison the world so you can make/save money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What total nonsense. * It would not be poisoning the earth anymore than a similar leach field from the millions of homes with septic systems. * As for graywater, in some areas it's actually OK and encouraged to capture and use for lawn watering and similar.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Septic tanks break down many harmful chemicals. Just chucking it into the soil is irresponsible and may pollute neighbour's wells or nearby rivers.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - First, while septic systems break down human and other organic waste, I seriously doubt they are going to break down many harmful chemicals. If I pour benzene or paint contain lead down a toilet, explain how a home septic system is going to break that down. Second, the issue in question is for grey water from a room used to make beer. Exactly what does that have to do with harmful chemicals? Apparenty you are unaware that some municipalities are encouraging the capture and use of grey water for things like lawn watering. my toilet, tell us how that is going to be broken dow |
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On Jul 27, 4:15*pm, Evan wrote:
On Jul 26, 10:41*pm, "Steve B" wrote: I'm making a beer brewing room in one of my containers. *I want to drain grey water (that with soaps, sanitizer, and a little organic matter) into a leachfield. *There will be no septic tank because there will be no solids. I know people who have done this with RV's. I am going to cautiously read up on my county's laws, but think I can put one in with little falderal in my very rural setting. Anyone done this? *Advice? *Suggestions? TIA Steve Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Where are you located ? Do your state regulations consider grey water to be sewage ? Your county permitting process for installing a septic system would have to be followed, every state regulates this sort of thing... It sounds as if you need to look into the state laws on this to see if grey water is considered sewage and would have to have the full gamut of pre-install permitting and soil perc testing before you can start digging... It also sounds to me like you want to carefully consider where you locate this grey water discharge system as if it is too close to your septic system discharging all of the soaps, sanitizers and the like can affect your black water septic system as those sorts of chemicals tend to kill the bacteria in the septic system which process the waste... I have not done this before but have observed the process through attending hearings where septic system designs were considered and approved after hearing the reports from the perc testing and the hydrologist's report on the conditions of the water table and aquifer in the area... Advice: *Seek out an expert in the design and permitting in septic systems in your state -- you might be an early adopter of a grey water system... *In no case should you be digging trenches and putting a system in by yourself without a permit... YOU may know what that drain should be used for but will future owners or users of your property know that your homemade and un-permitted grey water system doen't have a septic tank and therefore shouldn't have certain things drained into it ? Suggestion: *Same as advice only with the addition that you should seek out environmental type water conservationists in your area and see what advice they have, what licensed experts they recommend you get design advice/assistance from and perhaps they might know of how to apply for special permitting... Good Luck... ~~ Evan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Typical. The guy has some basic grey waste water from a small room where he makes beer. And you make a big deal out of it. I suppose instead of using it to water some grass or plants he should hire an environmental engineer. |
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On Jul 27, 11:33*pm, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? Because people can be so damed AR these days. Inspectors lose all common sense and future home buyers are just looking for an excuse to deduct something off the cost. if you screw up. In Fl you can pay for soil test and possible cleanup if you put in an unapproved dry well. Jimmie |
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On Jul 28, 12:31*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? Hold your phone calls, folks. *We do have a winner. Thanks, Oren. *My sediments exactly. *I was asking more along the lines of construction techniques, but guess everyone went off on a legal tangent. Forgiveness is easier to get than approval. Steve -- Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. Putting in a dry well is the frkin' simple part...a hole in the ground with rocks in it. The trouble you can get in to if its regulated can be a real PITA. You will wish like hell you sought approval if it is ever questioned because the burden of proof will be on you to prove you did no harm and that can be expensive. Jimmie |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 12:56:56 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
wrote: On Jul 27, 11:33*pm, Oren wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? Because people can be so damed AR these days. Inspectors lose all common sense and future home buyers are just looking for an excuse to deduct something off the cost. if you screw up. In Fl you can pay for soil test and possible cleanup if you put in an unapproved dry well. Jimmie Florida used to a nice place until the dammed Yankees refused go back home. The Government ****ed up the Everglades -- to boot. OP can just run a house outside to drain his brewing gray water. Same for a dirty bucket of car wash water from a bucket. Where are you in Florida? |
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HeyBub wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 06:22:18 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: Yep. You've got to consider the downstream (no pun intended) consequences. Just last year, Seattle finally got with the program and quit using salt on its icy roadways after someone pointed out that the salt would pass through the storm sewer system into Pugent Sound. What? They thought they were changing the salinity of the Pacific ocean? I would be a lot more worried about the oil that runs off the roads. Harrumph! In the great crusade to save the planet, avoiding road salt being dumped in the Pacific is roughly the same magnitude as erecting wind turbines. It's for the children. And only idiots think that is the reason. Most of the runoff in the Seattle area ends up in freshwater streams and lakes way before it gets near salt water. Do you believe everything the right wing wackos say? |
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In the great crusade to save the planet, avoiding road salt being dumped in the Pacific is roughly the same magnitude as erecting wind turbines. It's for the children. You gotta love it. Wind turbines spinning, chopping up birds by the millions. First, the required beacons atop the turbines flash and disorient or blind the birds. Some see it as the rising sun and go right to it. This phenomenon happens on high towers a lot because of their REQUIRED lighting. It's as funny as when they turned loose that seal they spent $250,000 on cleaning it up after the oil spill. Lights, camera, buses of school children, news crews............... cue the seal .......... turned loose ................. cue the cameras ......... cue the screaming applauding children ............ cue the killer seal ................... You guessed it. Oh, I forgot ........... cue the screaming running terrified children .............. They'll get over it. Eventually. Lots of expensive therapy. Steve -- Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. |
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Bob F wrote:
HeyBub wrote: wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 06:22:18 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: Yep. You've got to consider the downstream (no pun intended) consequences. Just last year, Seattle finally got with the program and quit using salt on its icy roadways after someone pointed out that the salt would pass through the storm sewer system into Pugent Sound. What? They thought they were changing the salinity of the Pacific ocean? I would be a lot more worried about the oil that runs off the roads. Harrumph! In the great crusade to save the planet, avoiding road salt being dumped in the Pacific is roughly the same magnitude as erecting wind turbines. It's for the children. And only idiots think that is the reason. Evidently, then, the mayor of Seattle is an idiot because that's the reason he gave for discontinuing roadway salt. Most of the runoff in the Seattle area ends up in freshwater streams and lakes way before it gets near salt water. And these streams and lakes empty into what exactly? Do you believe everything the right wing wackos say? Right-wing wackos didn't say anything. It was the mayor of Seattle. Being a Democrat, I don't THINK he's was a right-wing wacko. The policy of avoiding salt is decades old, but was recently reversed by former mayor Nickels in 2009. He lost his re-election bid anyway. |
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On Jul 28, 12:31*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE wrote: Check county codes for installing a dry well People mention codes, double top-secret permits, a truck load of inspectors, etc ... but! This is grey water for a small brewing set-up. I often toss dirty water from a car wash bucket onto the lawn, around trees and plants. What is the difference? Hold your phone calls, folks. *We do have a winner. Thanks, Oren. *My sediments exactly. *I was asking more along the lines of construction techniques, but guess everyone went off on a legal tangent. Forgiveness is easier to get than approval. Steve -- Heart surgery pending?www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide Now on facebook, too. Bull... When you dump something on the ground, it has to leach through the topsoil and subsoil layers before it can get into the aquifer... When you dig a below the ground leaching field, you provide a direct to the water table means of access for whatever you are discharging... Something which may not be harmful in the concentrations which survive the UV exposure when they are flowing across the surface of the ground and whatever portions successfully penetrate the layers of soil between daylight and groundwater could potentially pollute the aquifer when you directly inject them into the ground... This is why septic and drainage systems require permits and hearings... You aren't the only one using the ground water in your area -- but if you want to create your own "plume" of something and become one of the EPA's most wanted -- go for it... The lawsuits from everyone who owns land within a mile of yours and alphabet soup government agencies you have never heard of before won't cost that much, will they ? Dry wells are in many places restricted to rainwater use only... ~~ Evan |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote I was at a cloned box auto parts store a while back and saw a notice posted about how the store was now accepting waste motor oil for disposal. I asked a store employee about it and he handed a huge sheaf of government and EPA documents that had to be filled out in order for the store to accept my waste motor oil. I remembered what happened to a large group of people who took their old car batteries to a lead recycling company that went out of business. The government took the records consisting of the paperwork filled out by the customers of the defunct company who thought they were doing a good thing for the environment and demanded that those people pay for the cleanup of the hazardous waste at the site of the closed company. I changed my mind about taking my used motor oil to the auto parts store and found a friendly manager at an oil change service who took my old oil without any hassle. TDD I bought a house. Included was about 50 gallons of waste oil, 5 gal. buckets of roofing butyl, and assorted 5 gal. buckets of gook. I took the oil to the box store that sells auto parts. Have to have a receipt that says you bought 5 gal. of oil THERE in order to turn in the 5 gal. of used oil. Called JiffyLube. No can do. Called the landfill. They have an "amnesty" day ONCE A YEAR where they will take anything no questions asked. The next one is this spring. And they wonder why people take this crud and dump it in the desert. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in
: "The Daring Dufas" wrote I was at a cloned box auto parts store a while back and saw a notice posted about how the store was now accepting waste motor oil for disposal. I asked a store employee about it and he handed a huge sheaf of government and EPA documents that had to be filled out in order for the store to accept my waste motor oil. I remembered what happened to a large group of people who took their old car batteries to a lead recycling company that went out of business. The government took the records consisting of the paperwork filled out by the customers of the defunct company who thought they were doing a good thing for the environment and demanded that those people pay for the cleanup of the hazardous waste at the site of the closed company. I changed my mind about taking my used motor oil to the auto parts store and found a friendly manager at an oil change service who took my old oil without any hassle. TDD I bought a house. Included was about 50 gallons of waste oil, 5 gal. buckets of roofing butyl, and assorted 5 gal. buckets of gook. I took the oil to the box store that sells auto parts. Have to have a receipt that says you bought 5 gal. of oil THERE in order to turn in the 5 gal. of used oil. Called JiffyLube. No can do. Called the landfill. They have an "amnesty" day ONCE A YEAR where they will take anything no questions asked. The next one is this spring. And they wonder why people take this crud and dump it in the desert. Steve You should have called the real estate agent who handled the sell. That house was not delivered in the "broom clean" state it was supposed to. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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