Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a
walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
"Ray" wrote in message ... We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? You can get as complicated or as simple as you want. Complicated: Find and dig up your water supply line. Dig a trench from there over to where you want the manifold. Dig other trenches from where manifold is going out to the heads. Run electrical control line to where electrical control will be. You can then run it on auto, or manual. Easy: Use battery operated clocks. It sounds like you have a straightforward application, and this would minimize digging and all the falderal of manifold/controller/actuator valves. The downside to the battery devices is that they will freeze, and will need regular battery checks. OR just run a couple of lines to the sprayers from a water line, and use manual valves to turn on and off. Simple, but not a good idea if you are forgetful........... DAMHIKT Steve Heart surgery pending? www.heartsurgerysurvivalguide.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 7, 7:08*pm, "Ray" wrote:
We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? It depends on "simple" With exception of programmable timers, most lawn irrigation components are pretty cheap. Some folks run underground sprinkler system from a hose faucet. I had one installed at our last home and the full system, which included six zones, a programmable timer and the rain sensor was in the range of about $1,400 installed. Installation is a pretty straight forward do-it- yourself project but when I looked at component prices, cost of renting a trencher and back pain, I was doing a lot of work for about $300-400 savings. The system you are describing, if adequate, should be cheap. BTY, the rain-sensor option was about $30. RonB |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 7, 8:08*pm, "Ray" wrote:
We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? It may not be as simple as you want it to be. Some issues: Permit? In many locations you need one to install a sprinkler system Backflow preventer is required In some locations that rain sensor that you want to avoid is required by law to cut down on wasted water It is fairly easy as long as you're comfortable with basic plumbing and can figure out the appropriate locations for heads, type of heads, etc. The components are available either at home center stores, plumbing supply, irrigation supply, or online. Online generally has the best selection and pricing. I'd also reconsider not making it automated. It's not that much for a controller and if you have a place to mount it and can work it in, having it fully automated sure makes it a lot easier. How many times are you going to turn it on, forget about it and have it run for 3 hours? |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 7, 7:08*pm, "Ray" wrote:
We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? Two 30 x 15 or two 60 x 7.5??? Home Depot |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 7, 6:53*pm, "
wrote: On Jul 7, 8:08*pm, "Ray" wrote: We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? It may not be as simple as you want it to be. *Some issues: Permit? *In many locations you need one to install a sprinkler system Backflow preventer is required In some locations that rain sensor that you want to avoid is required by law to cut down on wasted water It is fairly easy as long as you're comfortable with basic plumbing and can figure out the appropriate locations for heads, type of heads, etc. The components are available either at home center stores, plumbing supply, irrigation supply, or online. *Online generally has the best selection and pricing. *I'd also reconsider not making it automated. *It's not that much for a controller and if you have a place to mount it and can work it in, having it fully automated sure makes it a lot easier. *How many times are you going to turn it on, forget about it and have it run for 3 hours? Just create a small manifold out of PVC piping (1' diameter) that connects to an outside faucet. The manifold just utilizes a couple of "T" connector aligned together. This will allow the water to feed either of your two main lines out to you sprinkler heads. Attached to each "T", put a shut-off valve. Then run either black poly piping (come in 100 ' rolls), or PVC pipes. I would suggest using the black poly as it's easier to work with. Just cut the piping where you want to place a sprinkler head. Attach a "T" adapter and a threaded nipple to attach your sprinkler head onto. add another section of piping to your"T" and continue down the run. At the end of your run, use a elbow (90 degrees) addapter with a nipple and sprinkler. Create your second run the same way. Then dig a trench and bury the runs. Attach the manifold to your water faucet and you're ready to adjust your sprinkler heads for coverage. You'll need to turn the water faucet one and then either one of the valves to feed each run individually. Not hard to do, just takes time and a good shovel, or a trench digger. Rob |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
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, " wrote: I'd also reconsider not making it automated. It's not that much for a controller and if you have a place to mount it and can work it in, having it fully automated sure makes it a lot easier. How many times are you going to turn it on, forget about it and have it run for 3 hours? A midway option is a mechanical wind-up timer such as I installed on a hose bib for the g.f.'s flower bed. Turn it on for 20 minutes or 2 hrs as needed and it turns itself off. No batteries to wear out, no AC to run, no controller to program, and no worries about forgetting to turn it off, or not being home to turn it off. |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
Ray wrote:
We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? The simplest solution is to quit putting the hoses away; just leave them there for the next time you water. Installing a system requires a lot of planning, starting with measuring the pressure and size of your water supply, and in cities, that can vary during the day, high at night when no one is using the water; low in the morning when everyone is taking showers. One advantage of a timer is that you can set it to water just before dawn, when the pressure is high and the water will sink in without a lot of evaporation. The only heads that I have seen irrigate in a circular pattern, or a fraction of a circle, so to water a rectangular area without waste you probably need a 90 degree head at each corner, and enough heads between them to fill in the areas they don't reach (the pros recommend double coverage or overlap). If you want to avoid watering the walkway, it will take more heads. Many manufacturers make multiple grades of equipment, a cheap one that won't last, and a pro line that is sturdier. You can guess which line Home Depot and the ilk carry. My best advice is, unless you are handy and have a lot of time and knowledge, hire a pro to set up your service. I did, and he even put in an extra valve in case I wanted to add another zone (I did add a zone to water some flower beds a few years later), and the pro grade equipment he installed has worked flawlessly for many years. |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 8, 10:02*am, Notat Home wrote:
Ray wrote: We have a shrub-free lawn about 60 feet wide, 15 feet deep, divided by a walkway. I'd like to get a SIMPLE sprinkler system to help avoid dragging hoses all over the yard. I don't want some system that measures rainfall and automatically turns on and off -- just something that I can turn on at two locations and do the job -- then turn it off. I would think that two jets on each side of the walkway would do the job. It seems to me that this should be a fairly easy job that I could do myself. Am I right? Where would I go to get the materials? The simplest solution is to quit putting the hoses away; just leave them there for the next time you water. Installing a system requires a lot of planning, starting with measuring the pressure and size of your water supply, and in cities, that can vary during the day, high at night when no one is using the water; low in the morning when everyone is taking showers. *One advantage of a timer is that you can set it to water just before dawn, when the pressure is high and the water will sink in without a lot of evaporation. The only heads that I have seen irrigate in a circular pattern, or a fraction of a circle, so to water a rectangular area without waste you probably need a 90 degree head at each corner, and enough heads between them to fill in the areas they don't reach (the pros recommend double coverage or overlap). *If you want to avoid watering the walkway, it will take more heads. There are heads readily available that do rectangles of various sizes. Many manufacturers make multiple grades of equipment, a cheap one that won't last, and a pro line that is sturdier. *You can guess which line Home Depot and the ilk carry. *My best advice is, unless you are handy and have a lot of time and knowledge, hire a pro to set up your service. * I did, and he even put in an extra valve in case I wanted to add another zone (I did add a zone to water some flower beds a few years later), and the pro grade equipment he installed has worked flawlessly for many years. |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On 7/8/2011 7:02 AM, Notat Home wrote:
Many manufacturers make multiple grades of equipment, a cheap one that won't last, and a pro line that is sturdier. You can guess which line Home Depot and the ilk carry. My best advice is, unless you are handy and have a lot of time and knowledge, hire a pro to set up your service. I did, and he even put in an extra valve in case I wanted to add another zone (I did add a zone to water some flower beds a few years later), and the pro grade equipment he installed has worked flawlessly for many years. Home Depot does offer one pro-level valve. I bought one for my swimming pool fill line because the better valve had some features that the el-cheapo valves lacked. It is all metal. It was expensive at over $25. Now I automatically add a few minutes worth of water to offset evaporation in the summer. Some people put only 180 degree and 90 degree heads along the edges with no 360 degree heads. This avoids watering the walkway but I don't like these heads because they were installed butting right up against the sidewalk and people walking by kick them and my edger destroys them if I'm careless. Another thing to consider is a piece of 4" diameter PVC around each head and spray some round-up inside to prevent grass from overgrowing the sprinker head. |
Lawn sprinkler system? ? ?
On Jul 8, 12:25*pm, SMS wrote:
On 7/8/2011 7:02 AM, Notat Home wrote: Many manufacturers make multiple grades of equipment, a cheap one that won't last, and a pro line that is sturdier. You can guess which line Home Depot and the ilk carry. My best advice is, unless you are handy and have a lot of time and knowledge, hire a pro to set up your service.. I did, and he even put in an extra valve in case I wanted to add another zone (I did add a zone to water some flower beds a few years later), and the pro grade equipment he installed has worked flawlessly for many years. Home Depot does offer one pro-level valve. I bought one for my swimming pool fill line because the better valve had some features that the el-cheapo valves lacked. It is all metal. It was expensive at over $25. Now I automatically add a few minutes worth of water to offset evaporation in the summer. Some people put only 180 degree and 90 degree heads along the edges with no 360 degree heads. This avoids watering the walkway but I don't like these heads because they were installed butting right up against the sidewalk and people walking by kick them and my edger destroys them if I'm careless. Another thing to consider is a piece of 4" diameter PVC around each head and spray some round-up inside to prevent grass from overgrowing the sprinker head. I placed my heads about 4 inches into the lawn near sidewalks and other paved things. If people are kicking them you have them too high. |
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