Side door is back again
 

A while back I posted pictures of my side door, the lower part of
which had been ruined by my directing water spray at the adjoining
plantings. Here is the link to an updated pic, showing gunk that I
have scraped away.

I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. We talked. He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. I would paint.

How does that price seem? This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Part Two: Is this too crazy? What if I had the perfectly good door
cut off above the damaged area, and a replacement piece fastened,
glued, braced, whatever, onto the rest of the door? Yes, it would be
necessary to cut an opening for the cat door and fasten it in, no
biggie, and mount a new hinge. But wouldn't that save a bundle? No
need to hand a new door. No need to cut an opening and mount a
window.

Whaddya think?

HB

Side door is back again
 

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

A while back I posted pictures of my side door, the lower part of
which had been ruined by my directing water spray at the adjoining
plantings. Here is the link to an updated pic, showing gunk that I
have scraped away.

I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. We talked. He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. I would paint.

How does that price seem? This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Part Two: Is this too crazy? What if I had the perfectly good door
cut off above the damaged area, and a replacement piece fastened,
glued, braced, whatever, onto the rest of the door? Yes, it would be
necessary to cut an opening for the cat door and fasten it in, no
biggie, and mount a new hinge. But wouldn't that save a bundle? No
need to hand a new door. No need to cut an opening and mount a
window.

Whaddya think?

HB
The labour to patch the door together would be roughly double the
labour to do it right - and the labour is about 5/6 of the total cost.

Side door is back again
 

"Higgs Boson" wrote
I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. We talked. He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. I would paint.

How does that price seem? This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Sounds cheap for the door, about right for the labor.

Maybe you can find one of those "out of work" people to do it for $10 an
hour, but you still have to pay fair rates for real skills.

Judging from what I just pair for a car repair, it is cheap for the door.

Side door is back again
 

On 6/23/2011 10:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Higgs Boson" wrote
I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. We talked. He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. I would paint.

How does that price seem? This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Sounds cheap for the door, about right for the labor.

Maybe you can find one of those "out of work" people to do it for $10 an
hour, but you still have to pay fair rates for real skills.

Judging from what I just pair for a car repair, it is cheap for the door.

I'd jump all over that bid- if the guy does good work, that is a very
good price. Just for giggles, I'd also price a steel door (probably
special order in that size), with a a factory window.

--
aem sends...

Side door is back again
 

On Jun 23, 8:01*pm, aemeijers wrote:
On 6/23/2011 10:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:











"Higgs Boson" wrote
I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. We talked. He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. I would paint.

How does that price seem? This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Sounds cheap for the door, about right for the labor.

Maybe you can find one of those "out of work" people to do it for $10 an
hour, but you still have to pay fair rates for real skills.

Judging from what I just pair for a car repair, it is cheap for the door.

Side door is back again
 

On Jun 23, 9:13*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
A while back I posted pictures of my side door, the lower part of
which had been ruined by my directing water spray at the adjoining
plantings. *Here is the link to an updated pic, showing gunk that I
have scraped away.

I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. *It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. *I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. *We talked. *He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. *I would paint.

How does that price seem? *This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Part Two: *Is this too crazy? *What if I had the perfectly good door
cut off above the damaged area, and a replacement piece fastened,
glued, braced, whatever, onto the rest of the door? *Yes, it would be
necessary to cut an opening for the cat door and fasten it in, no
biggie, and mount a new hinge. *But wouldn't that save a bundle? *No
need to hand a new door. *No need to cut an opening and mount a
window.

Whaddya think?

HB

Everything is wrong about that door installation. It needs a portico
or canopy to keep off the weather, and above all, if the environment
is damp more often than not, then a fiberglass door is by far your
best choice. The fiberglass has the advantage of permitting a cat/dog
port to be easily added with less compromising of the structure. Be
brave, do it right and do it once. You've already experienced the
results of a poor job. This time won't be cheap. Good luck.

Joe

Side door is back again
 

On Jun 24, 10:30*am, Joe wrote:
On Jun 23, 9:13*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:









A while back I posted pictures of my side door, the lower part of
which had been ruined by my directing water spray at the adjoining
plantings. *Here is the link to an updated pic, showing gunk that I
have scraped away.

I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. *It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. *I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. *We talked. *He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. *I would paint.

How does that price seem? *This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Part Two: *Is this too crazy? *What if I had the perfectly good door
cut off above the damaged area, and a replacement piece fastened,
glued, braced, whatever, onto the rest of the door? *Yes, it would be
necessary to cut an opening for the cat door and fasten it in, no
biggie, and mount a new hinge. *But wouldn't that save a bundle? *No
need to hand a new door. *No need to cut an opening and mount a
window.

Whaddya think?

HB

Everything is wrong about that door installation. It needs a portico
or canopy to keep off the weather, and above all, if the environment
is damp more often than not, then a fiberglass door is by far your
best choice. The fiberglass has the advantage of permitting a cat/dog
port to be easily added with less compromising of the structure. Be
brave, do it right and do it once. You've already experienced the
results of a poor job. This time won't be cheap. Good luck.

Joe

Thanks, Joe. Yes, it needs a portico. It took years for me to get one
put in on the S. side of the house, but what a difference, given the
hot Southern sun!

If I make peace w/the carpenter, maybe I could squeeze a portico out
of him as well.

Environment is NOT "damp more often than not", since I realized what
an ***hole I had been, watering the door as well as the plants!

In fairness, there was nothing wrong with the original door
installation; I was the one who ****ed it up.

Will check out fiberglas.

HB

Side door is back again
 

On Jun 23, 7:18*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:13:44 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson









wrote:
A while back I posted pictures of my side door, the lower part of
which had been ruined by my directing water spray at the adjoining
plantings. *Here is the link to an updated pic, showing gunk that I
have scraped away.

I got a bid from a carpenter to replace the door. *It is a solid-core
24", with a window and cat door cut in.

He quoted $58 for the door, and $300 for labor. *I thought that was
high, as did my painter, who had recommended him. *We talked. *He
stood behind the price, which included installing knob and bolts,
cutting in the window, making an opening for the cat door, and hanging
the door. *I would paint.

How does that price seem? *This is an expensive area, but there are
lots of people out of work.

Part Two: *Is this too crazy? *What if I had the perfectly good door
cut off above the damaged area, and a replacement piece fastened,
glued, braced, whatever, onto the rest of the door? *Yes, it would be
necessary to cut an opening for the cat door and fasten it in, no
biggie, and mount a new hinge. *But wouldn't that save a bundle? *No
need to hand a new door. *No need to cut an opening and mount a
window.

Whaddya think?

HB

*The labour to patch the door together would be roughly double the
labour to do it right - and the labour is about 5/6 of the total cost.

How do you figure that? What do you see as the labor? Straight
question. (Remember, he quoted $300 as labor to install new door (w/o
paint).

HP