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Sam Takoy[_2_] April 29th 11 07:18 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam

Smitty Two April 29th 11 09:27 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In article ,
Sam Takoy wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


I'm guessing 12 bushels. But if you don't like my guess, there are
approximately 1 billion resources on the web for you to figure that out.
Sounds like a science homework question that you're disinclined to
research on your own.

Sam Takoy[_2_] April 29th 11 10:14 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
On 4/29/2011 4:27 AM, Smitty Two wrote:
In ,
Sam wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


I'm guessing 12 bushels. But if you don't like my guess, there are
approximately 1 billion resources on the web for you to figure that out.
Sounds like a science homework question that you're disinclined to
research on your own.


Not at all. Need to order a ceiling fan before noon today so looking for
a quick answer.

RBM[_3_] April 29th 11 11:50 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 

"Sam Takoy" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825 lumens:
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...campaignId=T9F



[email protected][_2_] April 29th 11 02:22 PM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
On Apr 29, 6:50*am, "RBM" wrote:
"Sam Takoy" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".


With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Many thanks in advance,


Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825 lumens:http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...act-fluorescen...


The issue isn't really how much light the fixture is capable of
handling.
It's how much HEAT. Given that CFLs produce about 75% less heat
than an incadescent, you can put any size you want in.
A 40W CFL would produce about as much light as a 150W incandescent
and I'm sure you don't want anywhere near 3X 150W equiv of light.

bob haller April 29th 11 03:26 PM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
On Apr 29, 9:22*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 29, 6:50*am, "RBM" wrote:





"Sam Takoy" wrote in message


...


Hi,


I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".


With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Many thanks in advance,


Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825 lumens:http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...act-fluorescen...


The issue isn't really how much light the fixture is capable of
handling.
It's how much HEAT. *Given that CFLs produce about 75% less heat
than an incadescent, you can put any size you want in.
A 40W CFL would produce about as much light as a 150W incandescent
and I'm sure you don't want anywhere near 3X 150W equiv of light.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


and if the CFL will physicall FIT:(

They have gotten smaller but it can still be a issue:(

RBM[_3_] April 29th 11 04:23 PM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 

wrote in message
...
On Apr 29, 6:50 am, "RBM" wrote:
"Sam Takoy" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".


With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Many thanks in advance,


Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825
lumens:http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...act-fluorescen...


The issue isn't really how much light the fixture is capable of
handling.
It's how much HEAT. Given that CFLs produce about 75% less heat
than an incadescent, you can put any size you want in.
A 40W CFL would produce about as much light as a 150W incandescent
and I'm sure you don't want anywhere near 3X 150W equiv of light.

**These are candelabra base lamps. I don't think anything is made that would
give you 40 watts CFL in this style. The manufacturers know the type of
fixtures and lamps that they are replacing. The idea is to get an equivalent
amount of lumens as the incandescent produced



Don Klipstein April 30th 11 05:36 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In , Sam Takoy wrote mainly:

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


As for retail-available ones, there are "60W-equivalent" candelabra-
base CFLs having actual wattage around 14 watts or so.

They don't produce more heat than 40W incandescents, despite CFLs being
more efficient at producing non-radiant heat than incandescents are.

My guess at this moment such CFLs are good for 700-800 lumens, maybe
claiming at least 800. 700 lumens is "lowish 60 watt equivalence".
Three of these CFLs out-lumens even a 100W 120V halogen or two 50W 12V
halogens designed to last typically 2,000 hours or more.

==============

I would rather go with "40W-equivalent", in order to avoid the
most-aggressive design. I have good experience with 40W-equiv. CFLs
with outer bulbs in ceiling fan fixtures. They use only 9 watts each.

===============

Starting dimmer and needing a full minute or 2 to warm up is worse
for CFLs that have outer bulbs over the tubing, not-as-bad for ones with
bare tubing. (At least generally!)

However, I don't see many candelabra-base CFLs without outer bulbs.

Any chance of replacing the candelabra sockets with E26 ones?

=======
--
- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein April 30th 11 05:38 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In article , Sam Takoy wrote:
On 4/29/2011 4:27 AM, Smitty Two wrote:
In ,
Sam wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


I'm guessing 12 bushels. But if you don't like my guess, there are
approximately 1 billion resources on the web for you to figure that out.
Sounds like a science homework question that you're disinclined to
research on your own.


Not at all. Need to order a ceiling fan before noon today so looking for
a quick answer.


I would say go for medium base AKA E26, 13-watt bare spiral tubing CFL.

I have years of experience with that being OK. Looking close to 800
lumens from each 13 watt spiral CFL.
--
- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein April 30th 11 05:59 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In ,
wrote:

On Apr 29, 6:50*am, "RBM" wrote:
"Sam Takoy" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".


With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Many thanks in advance,


Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825 lumens:
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...act-fluorescen...

The issue isn't really how much light the fixture is capable of
handling.
It's how much HEAT. Given that CFLs produce about 75% less heat
than an incadescent, you can put any size you want in.
A 40W CFL would produce about as much light as a 150W incandescent
and I'm sure you don't want anywhere near 3X 150W equiv of light.


Although I largely agree, I would give some caution as to heat
production from CFLs:

I had a 42 watt CFL produce slightly more temperature rise of a
fixture than a 60 watt incandescent.

"How Can That Be?"

CFLs are more efficient than incandescents at producing both light and
non-radiant heat. CFLs are much less efficient at producing optical-band
infrared than incandescents are.

As for CFLs that won't overheat a fixture rated for 60W incandescents:
26-watt CFLs ("full 100 watt incandescent equivalence") won't overheat
the fixture, but they could easily overheat themselves in fixtures other
than table lamps.
And, I am happy with how 13W CFLs behave even in ceiling fan fixtures
with the fan not running.
--
- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein April 30th 11 06:01 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In article , RBM wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Apr 29, 6:50 am, "RBM" wrote:
"Sam Takoy" wrote in message

...

Hi,


I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".


With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Many thanks in advance,


Sam


Here is a CF that puts out 825
lumens:http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/el...act-fluorescen...


The issue isn't really how much light the fixture is capable of
handling.
It's how much HEAT. Given that CFLs produce about 75% less heat
than an incadescent, you can put any size you want in.
A 40W CFL would produce about as much light as a 150W incandescent
and I'm sure you don't want anywhere near 3X 150W equiv of light.

**These are candelabra base lamps. I don't think anything is made that would
give you 40 watts CFL in this style. The manufacturers know the type of
fixtures and lamps that they are replacing. The idea is to get an equivalent
amount of lumens as the incandescent produced


These have been here in as much as "60W equiv" for at least a year,
probably 2 years already.
--
- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein April 30th 11 06:10 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In ,
Joe wrote (slightly edited for space by me )

On Apr 29, 1:18*am, Sam Takoy wrote:

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?


Fan makers do not approve CFL's. Evidently the vibration kills them or
something. Therefore, you should really get fan rated 40W such as
those at Amazon. With three of them in your fixture there will be so
much light that you may want to tie them into a dimmer. Not a problem
in a huge high ceilinged room, of course.


My experience is that vibration in ceiling fan fixtures does not kill
CFLs.

My take is that fan makers do not want to be nailed to a wall for some
reason or another...

Meanwhile, I have seen CFL makers "stepping up to the plate" - but only
"endorsing" ceiling fan usage of CFLs as high as 9 watts by marketing 9
watt "ceiling fan CFLs". In my experience so far...

My biggest gripe with 9W ceiling fan CFLs is their design with outer
bulbs - heavily correlating with starting dimmer and needing more time to0
warm up.

Then again, I have been happy for almost 12 years with performance of
13W bare-tubing spiral CFLs in a ceiling fan fixture.
--
- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein April 30th 11 06:11 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
In ,
ransley wrote:

On Apr 29, 1:18*am, Sam Takoy wrote:

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


Vibration could ruin led or cfls early.


How worse than with incandescent?
--
- Don Klipstein )

The Ghost in The Machine April 30th 11 06:40 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
SAM I DONT KNOW WHY YOU ASK THESE. NUMBSKULLS ANYTHING.

YOU'D BE BETTER OFF GOING TO SOME UNIVERSITY/EDUCATIONAL GROUP..

NOT ONE OF YOU HOME REPAIRERS HAS ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

IF ANY OF YOU GIVES HIM THE ANSWER ON LUMENS.

..I WILL RETRACT THE NUMBSKULLS COMMENT.

BUT FOR NOW ...IT STANDS AS A FACT... YOU COME OFF AS A BUNCH OF
COMEDIANS WITH NO PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION AT ALL....A RHESUS MONKEY ON
A SPEACH MACHINE WOULD GIVE A BETTER ANSWER THAN YOU HAVE.

PAT ECUM
TGITM

The Ghost in The Machine April 30th 11 06:49 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 
On Apr 29, 2:18*am, Sam Takoy wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking at a ceiling fan that can take "(3) 40W 110V candelabra base
(E12)".

With modern light bulbs (CFL or LED) how much light will I actually be
able to get out of it?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


WELL, ALL BUT DON KLISTICK
AT LEAST HE CAME CLOSE ENOUGH...

IT WILL VARY WITH THE TYPE OF BULB YOU USE....SO...MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
WHICH BULBS WILL YOU BE USING ON YOUR FANDANGO?

PAT ECUM
TGITM

The Ghost in The Machine April 30th 11 07:24 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 

SORRY MISTER KLIPSTEINSTICK, I LEFT OUT THE 'P' IN YOUR NAME BY
MISYAKE.
THESE GODAMNED TROLLS IN HERE HAVE MADE A MESS OF MY ECTOPLASMA AND IS
DRIPPING ALL OVER THE MY KEYBOARD AND RACK SYSTEM.

SAM, IF YOU GIMME YOUR ADDRESS, I'LL POSESS A SOUL WITH A LIGHT METER
AND GO GIVE YOU AN EXACT CYPHER IN LUMENS.

PAT ECUM
TGITM

The Ghost in The Machine April 30th 11 07:28 AM

How much light can I get out of this fixture?
 

SORRY MISTER KLIPSTEINSTICK, I LEFT OUT THE 'P' IN YOUR NAME BY
MISTAKE.....THESE GODAMNED TROLLS IN HERE HAVE MADE A MESS OF MY
ECTOPLASMA AND IT'S
DRIPPING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD AND RACK SYSTEM.

SAM, IF YOU GIMME YOUR ADDRESS, I'LL POSESS A SOUL WITH A LIGHT METER
AND GO GIVE YOU AN EXACT CYPHER IN LUMENS.

PAT ECUM
TGITM


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