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When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.



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When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


usually means to other customers on the same network


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On Apr 13, 3:04*pm, LSMFT wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" *Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? *These companies seem so crooked.

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"Free mobile to mobile" means only that - mobile to mobile calls are
free.

You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls. That's a totally separate
issue that needs to be investigated on it's own.

That's akin to assuming that a 50% off sale on shirts mean you won't
get 50% off on pants. Maybe you will, maybe you won't. Apples to
oranges. No relation.

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On Apr 13, 3:04 pm, wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.

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"Free mobile to mobile" means only that - mobile to mobile calls are
free.

You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls. That's a totally separate
issue that needs to be investigated on it's own.

That's akin to assuming that a 50% off sale on shirts mean you won't
get 50% off on pants. Maybe you will, maybe you won't. Apples to
oranges. No relation.


So I gotta know what kind of phone the person has that I'm calling?
Sounds like **** fraud to me.

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On Apr 13, 5:12*pm, LSMFT wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Apr 13, 3:04 pm, *wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" *Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? *These companies seem so crooked.


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"Free mobile to mobile" means only that - mobile to mobile calls are
free.


You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls. *That's a totally separate
issue that needs to be investigated on it's own.


That's akin to assuming that a 50% off sale on shirts mean you won't
get 50% off on pants. Maybe you will, maybe you won't. Apples to
oranges. No relation.


So I gotta know what kind of phone the person has that I'm calling?
Sounds like **** fraud to me.

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Just get net 10 unlimited phone internet 411 all for 50 bucks a
month

and talk continiously its all free after the 50 bucks


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When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


Generally it means that domestic mobile to mobile calls are not charged
any minutes under the plan, while mobile to land line calls charge
minutes, usually from your plan quota at no extra charge, and then at a
per minute charge for overage. Frequently the unlimited mobile to mobile
is limited to "in network" i.e. calls to other mobiles on the same
carrier. I routinely make 2hr+ mobile to mobile in-network calls halfway
across the US at no extra charge.
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When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


Depends on the carrier. SPrint, for instance, that means to any mobile
from any company (in the US obviously). Not landlines or 800 numbers.
Don't know why crooked.

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Pete C. wrote:

LSMFT wrote:

When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


Generally it means that domestic mobile to mobile calls are not charged
any minutes under the plan, while mobile to land line calls charge
minutes, usually from your plan quota at no extra charge, and then at a
per minute charge for overage. Frequently the unlimited mobile to mobile
is limited to "in network" i.e. calls to other mobiles on the same
carrier. I routinely make 2hr+ mobile to mobile in-network calls halfway
across the US at no extra charge.


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On 4/13/2011 3:04 PM, LSMFT wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.



No fan of many megacorps but what is crooked about "free mobile to
mobile"? A landline isn't a mobile.
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You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls.


I'm sure you meant to type "infer." Speakers imply, listeners infer.


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So I gotta know what kind of phone the person has that I'm calling? Sounds
like **** fraud to me.


Not really. If you are calling a business, you usually get a landline. If
you are calling home or calling your mother, you already know. If Uncle Bob
says 'here's my cell number" you put it into the directory that way. You
can also tell by the area code in some places as certain ones are used only
for mobile. If you are calling your kid's phones that you gave them, you'd
know that too.

You may not like the idea, but it is not fraud at all. No scam involved at
any level.

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On 4/13/2011 11:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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So I gotta know what kind of phone the person has that I'm calling?
Sounds like **** fraud to me.


Not really. If you are calling a business, you usually get a landline.
If you are calling home or calling your mother, you already know. If
Uncle Bob says 'here's my cell number" you put it into the directory
that way. You can also tell by the area code in some places as certain
ones are used only for mobile. If you are calling your kid's phones that
you gave them, you'd know that too.

You may not like the idea, but it is not fraud at all. No scam involved
at any level.


Don't know about other carriers but my carrier has a simple tool on
their web site to determine if the number you are calling is eligible
for free mobile-mobile. All you need to do is input the number and click.
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On Apr 13, 8:11*pm, George wrote:
On 4/13/2011 3:04 PM, LSMFT wrote: When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


No fan of many megacorps but what is crooked about "free mobile to
mobile"? A landline isn't a mobile.


I guess he's point was that you don't necessarily know whether a
number you dial is a landline, mobile, in-network mobile, etc. It's
kind of like a shop where some things are on sale, others aren't
and it;s not clearly marked.

But as Ed pointed out, many times you know the person you're
calling and whether it's their mobile # and/or what carrier they
are on. Also as Pete pointed out, the usual practice is that
if the call is not free, then it just charges against your monthly
minutes.

I have Verizon and in-network mobile to mobile is not counted.
From a practical standpoint, not a problem for me. I have a
plan with 400 mins and never come close to using them all.
Most of the people I have long conversations with are on
Verizon. To take advantage of the calls that don't count
against your minutes, you just need to keep an eye on
your bill occasionally and if you don't know what company
someone is with that you plan on having long calls with,
ask them.
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On Apr 13, 11:04*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
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*DerbyDad03 wrote:
You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls.


I'm sure you meant to type "infer." Speakers imply, listeners infer.


Are you implying that I don't a firm command of the english language?
From your post, I'm inferring that implication.
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On 4/14/2011 8:08 AM, wrote:
On Apr 13, 8:11 pm, wrote:
On 4/13/2011 3:04 PM, LSMFT wrote: When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.


No fan of many megacorps but what is crooked about "free mobile to
mobile"? A landline isn't a mobile.


I guess he's point was that you don't necessarily know whether a
number you dial is a landline, mobile, in-network mobile, etc. It's
kind of like a shop where some things are on sale, others aren't
and it;s not clearly marked.

But as Ed pointed out, many times you know the person you're
calling and whether it's their mobile # and/or what carrier they
are on. Also as Pete pointed out, the usual practice is that
if the call is not free, then it just charges against your monthly
minutes.

I have Verizon and in-network mobile to mobile is not counted.
From a practical standpoint, not a problem for me. I have a
plan with 400 mins and never come close to using them all.
Most of the people I have long conversations with are on
Verizon. To take advantage of the calls that don't count
against your minutes, you just need to keep an eye on
your bill occasionally and if you don't know what company
someone is with that you plan on having long calls with,
ask them.


Same here. All of our family and most of my friends are on VZW. VZW also
has the feature where you can add 10 more "non-network" numbers for
"free" calling. So our use of plan minutes is low.

If I need to make a call I will do it no matter what. If it will be a
recurring thing I go here to check:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/L...path=lnppromo1


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When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile"


If it says Free mobile to mobile*, read the fine print where the *
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On Apr 13, 3:04*pm, LSMFT wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" *Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? *These companies seem so crooked.


Last I checked, cell phones were not a Constitutional right, and cell
companies were not charities.

Hell, they give away the farm now because of competition. Back in the
day, you paid for every minute of every call, no matter who you
called. Some companies even made it a 3-minute minimum per call.
Minutes were up to a quarter each! Talk about crooked!

Now you get minutes for fractions of a cent. You get free mobile to
mobile all day every day. You get free night and weekend minutes to
any phone. You get free calls to a select list of numbers you specify
(i.e. "friends and family" plan).

If you exceed your plan's limits, they hit you HARD, but only an idiot
lets that happen.
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:12:13 -0400, LSMFT wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Apr 13, 3:04 pm, wrote:
When a cell phone company says 'Free mobile to mobile" Do they mean
mobile to land line is not free? These companies seem so crooked.

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All is as it is.


"Free mobile to mobile" means only that - mobile to mobile calls are
free.

You shouldn't imply anything about mobile to land line calls based on
what they say about mobile to mobile calls. That's a totally separate
issue that needs to be investigated on it's own.

That's akin to assuming that a 50% off sale on shirts mean you won't
get 50% off on pants. Maybe you will, maybe you won't. Apples to
oranges. No relation.


So I gotta know what kind of phone the person has that I'm calling?
Sounds like **** fraud to me.


No, you can talk to whomever you want. You'll just have to pay for
some of them. If you talk to someone for long periods, it would be in
your interest to have the same company he does. If you get a phone or
help pick out of a phone for your kids or your spouse or parents, or
even if you just discuss it, you might want to consider if you'll be
talking to them a lot or not.

IF you're going to throw around words like crooked and fraud for
something that is so reasonable and easy to use, well, I'm not going
to be able to trust your opinion on anything.

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THE MINUTE THE CARRIER CONFRONTS A NON MOBILE CARRIER AND THE UTILITY
DETECTS A SIGN WAVE FROM A LAND LINE YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE
CONTRACT.

THE LITTLE COMPUTER ELECTRIC BOOGIES AT THE MOBILE SERVICE
ADMINISTRATION OFFICE CAN SWITCH YOU OVER TO LAND MANAGEMENT.,
BUT,
THE CALL INCURS IN UNAUTHORIZED USEAGE & ADDITIONAL CHARGES TO BOTH
PARTIES CAUSE YOUR CONTRACT IS NOW MOOT OR INOPERABLE AND VOID IN
BUSINESS COURTS.

DON'T DO IT !!!
YOU'LL FUDGE YOUR FAMILY PLAN ( :

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