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Steve Barker[_6_] January 26th 11 02:00 AM

Wall plates
 
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!


--
Steve Barker
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RBM[_3_] January 26th 11 02:07 AM

Wall plates
 

"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link to
the weird things. G THANKS!


--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email


You don't say what finish you want, but they should be available at an
electrical supply



aemeijers January 26th 11 02:09 AM

Wall plates
 
On 1/25/2011 9:00 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!



A real electric supply can probably get them, but at the big-box, you
are probably stuck with the overpriced 'modular' snap-together plates.
BTDT. Of course, for the problem locations, you could always just use
Decora outlets, if you can get multi-gang in those.

--
aem sends...

Pete C. January 26th 11 02:29 AM

Wall plates
 

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.

Nate Nagel January 26th 11 02:31 AM

Wall plates
 
On 01/25/2011 09:00 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!



what finish are you looking for? if it's something "normal" and they
don't have it at your local supply house (or you don't have one and are
limited to Big Boxen) try dale electric

if you have an old house and are looking to match a vintage plate you're
probably out of luck with plastic (unless you are handy with a Dremel
and countersink bit, in which case you could probably mod a double and
triple std recep plate to work - I think) but if you are using the .040"
thick pressed brass plates, or something similar in another finish, they
are probably available "repro." Be prepared for sticker shock though.

nate

--
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jamesgangnc[_3_] January 26th 11 02:36 AM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 25, 9:00*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. *I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. *G *THANKS!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email


Just get the rectangular regular outlets.

Nate Nagel January 26th 11 02:46 AM

Wall plates
 
On 01/25/2011 09:29 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.


ah, but if you're like me, you'd want "spec grade" receps which also are
unavailable at the Big Boxen. supply house should have spec grade
decora though.

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

metspitzer January 26th 11 03:13 AM

Wall plates
 
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. (Switches only is the exception)

DD_BobK January 26th 11 03:50 AM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 25, 6:00*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. *I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. *G *THANKS!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email


I've bought these in white at Home Depot (SoCal)

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


I have not seen a

---Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.---

you might be able modify a triple duplex to accept a single GFCI

The Daring Dufas[_7_] January 26th 11 04:03 AM

Wall plates
 
On 1/25/2011 8:00 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!



You should look for "sectional" wall plates which will let you build
your own. The electrical supply houses will probably have the best
selection but the big box stores may have all you need too.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ehuy2a

TDD

Don Phillipson[_3_] January 26th 11 02:04 PM

Wall plates
 
"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
...

On 01/25/2011 09:00 PM, Steve Barker wrote:


I'm looking for two different wall plates.. . .
#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


if you are using the .040" thick pressed brass plates, or something
similar in another finish, they are probably available "repro." Be
prepared for sticker shock though.


If you want metal wall plates, they are easily and cheaply
made by anyone with the right tools, most commonly
locksmiths. You need only draw the desired ouput accurately.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



jamesgangnc[_3_] January 26th 11 02:15 PM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 25, 10:13*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker



wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. *I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.


#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. *G *THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. *(Switches only is the exception)


I ganged outlets over my kitchen counter in an area where I knew I
would have a lot of appliances and didn't want two a few feet form
each other. I also ganged them over my workbench in the garage.
Never 3 though.

Pete C. January 26th 11 04:54 PM

Wall plates
 

Nate Nagel wrote:

On 01/25/2011 09:29 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.


ah, but if you're like me, you'd want "spec grade" receps which also are
unavailable at the Big Boxen. supply house should have spec grade
decora though.


Actually, I got spec grade Decora style 20A duplex receptacles at my
local Lowe's along with 20A GFCI receptacles. Every quad in my shop is a
separate circuit as well.

Pete C. January 26th 11 04:56 PM

Wall plates
 

Metspitzer wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. (Switches only is the exception)


Even for switches I wouldn't go more than two gang if I could help it.
You can get 6 switches in a two gang using the triples, so you really
shouldn't need more than two gang. Big banks of regular switches are
pretty ugly as well.

Evan[_3_] January 26th 11 05:08 PM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 26, 11:56*am, "Pete C." wrote:
Metspitzer wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:


I'm looking for two different wall plates. *I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.


#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. *G *THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. *(Switches only is the exception)


Even for switches I wouldn't go more than two gang if I could help it.
You can get 6 switches in a two gang using the triples, so you really
shouldn't need more than two gang. Big banks of regular switches are
pretty ugly as well.



How deep of a 2 gang box are you using with your 6 switches on
two device straps ?

That is a MINIMUM of 14 current carrying conductors, 7 grounding
conductors, a bonding jumper to the box and 6 pigtails for splitting
up the incoming circuit if all 6 of the switched loads are on one
circuit... What size wire are you using in that two gang box ?

The reason why those "big banks of regular switches" exist is so
that the number of wires inside the box plus the volume taken up
by the devices themselves does not exceed the limits of what is
permitted by code...

If you are concerned about the appearance of switches and want
minimum appearances of switch boxes, you can install an intelligent
wiring system in your house and switch all loads using a relay
panel in your basement next to your circuit breaker box and see only
single/double gang control panels to switch the load/load groups in
the immediate area where the control is located...

~~ Evan

Steve Barker[_6_] January 26th 11 06:01 PM

Wall plates
 
On 1/25/2011 8:29 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.


I think that's the direction i'm leaning. Thanks!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve Barker[_6_] January 26th 11 06:03 PM

Wall plates
 
On 1/25/2011 8:46 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 01/25/2011 09:29 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.


ah, but if you're like me, you'd want "spec grade" receps which also are
unavailable at the Big Boxen. supply house should have spec grade decora
though.

nate


No, i don't get all tore up about the "spec grade" things. As a matter
of fact the reason i'm looking for what I am is because i bought
Literally a wheelbarrow full of leviton duplex outlets for about $6 a
few years ago.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve Barker[_6_] January 26th 11 06:04 PM

Wall plates
 
On 1/25/2011 8:31 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 01/25/2011 09:00 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. G THANKS!



what finish are you looking for? if it's something "normal" and they
don't have it at your local supply house (or you don't have one and are
limited to Big Boxen) try dale electric

if you have an old house and are looking to match a vintage plate you're
probably out of luck with plastic (unless you are handy with a Dremel
and countersink bit, in which case you could probably mod a double and
triple std recep plate to work - I think) but if you are using the .040"
thick pressed brass plates, or something similar in another finish, they
are probably available "repro." Be prepared for sticker shock though.

nate


nothing special. White plastic is fine.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve Barker[_6_] January 26th 11 06:05 PM

Wall plates
 
On 1/26/2011 8:15 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jan 25, 10:13 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker



wrote:
I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.


#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. (Switches only is the exception)


I ganged outlets over my kitchen counter in an area where I knew I
would have a lot of appliances and didn't want two a few feet form
each other. I also ganged them over my workbench in the garage.
Never 3 though.


this is over a kitchen countertop and it was three gang when we
purchased it. I'll probably just go decora and be done with it.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve B[_10_] January 26th 11 06:42 PM

Wall plates
 

Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


Keep in mind that the orientation of screw slots may affect the performance
of said wall plates considerably. For someone who knows so much, you should
not be stymied by a simple wall plate.

HTH

Steve



N8N January 26th 11 07:19 PM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 26, 11:56*am, "Pete C." wrote:
Metspitzer wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:00:27 -0600, Steve Barker
wrote:


I'm looking for two different wall plates. *I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.


#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


Pretty common.
#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


Not so common.
I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things. *G *THANKS!


A lesson I learned long ago was to never gang more than two devices
together for just that reason. *(Switches only is the exception)


Even for switches I wouldn't go more than two gang if I could help it.
You can get 6 switches in a two gang using the triples, so you really
shouldn't need more than two gang. Big banks of regular switches are
pretty ugly as well.


using one gang for each switch allows end user to install dimmers
later if desired however.

nate

N8N January 26th 11 07:21 PM

Wall plates
 
On Jan 26, 1:03*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/25/2011 8:46 PM, Nate Nagel wrote:





On 01/25/2011 09:29 PM, Pete C. wrote:


Steve Barker wrote:


I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.


#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI


#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.


I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


They exist, go to a real electrical supply house to find them. I would
however recommend using the "Decora" style regular duplex outlets to
match your GFCI receptacle which is also a "Decora" style. I did this in
my shop where all of my receptacles are "quads" of a GFCI receptacle and
standard "Decora" receptacle.


ah, but if you're like me, you'd want "spec grade" receps which also are
unavailable at the Big Boxen. supply house should have spec grade decora
though.


nate


No, i don't get all tore up about the "spec grade" things. *As a matter
of fact the reason i'm looking for what I am is because i bought
Literally a wheelbarrow full of leviton duplex outlets for about $6 a
few years ago.


I got two boxes of spec grade toggles at an architectural salvage, NIB
(but very old) for $10 I think a while back :)

box of 10 spec grade receps was only $15 at supply house, I replaced
everything on the 2nd floor of my house and still have about half the
matl left over

nate

Steve Barker[_6_] January 27th 11 01:13 AM

Wall plates
 
On 1/26/2011 12:42 PM, Steve B wrote:
Steve Barker wrote:

I'm looking for two different wall plates. I know I'm probably looking
for something they don't make, knowing me.

#1. Double gang - One standard duplex outlet and one GFCI

#2. Triple gang - Two standard duplex outlets and one GFCI.

I've poked around the web a bit, but thought someone might have a link
to the weird things.G THANKS!


Keep in mind that the orientation of screw slots may affect the performance
of said wall plates considerably. For someone who knows so much, you should
not be stymied by a simple wall plate.

HTH

Steve



i wasn't stymied. As stated in my OP, i hadn't looked yet. i may get
the screwless ones and look REALLY professional!

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email


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