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dumbstruck January 2nd 11 02:42 AM

Pitting on alum window frames?
 
For a bunch of floor to ceiling windows, I have noticed extreme
pitting all over their exterior aluminum frames, far deeper than the
anodized layer. I think new window installation would cost a fortune
due to not fitting in the elevator, so I wonder where that leaves us.

I think the root cause is dirt and salt buildup that isn't flushed
due an overhang that protects from rain but not humidity (and not
enough cleaning). So say these are cleaned more regularly - will they
structurally hold up for many more years? Is there some kind of
treatment that would help clean, protect, or disguise?

And if needing replacement, would the whole gigantic windows have to
be replaced, or can you somehow stabilize the glass and unscrew the
frame parts for replacement? The windows/sliding doors are on a high
rise balcony, and function is more of a concern than looks. thanks

DD_BobK January 2nd 11 04:34 AM

Pitting on alum window frames?
 
On Jan 1, 6:42*pm, dumbstruck wrote:
For a bunch of floor to ceiling windows, I have noticed extreme
pitting all over their exterior aluminum frames, far deeper than the
anodized layer. I think new window installation would cost a fortune
due to not fitting in the elevator, so I wonder where that leaves us.

I think the root cause is dirt and salt buildup that isn't flushed
due *an overhang that protects from rain but not humidity (and not
enough cleaning). So say these are cleaned more regularly - will they
structurally hold up for many more years? Is there some kind of
treatment that would help clean, protect, or disguise?

And if needing replacement, would the whole gigantic windows have to
be replaced, or can you somehow stabilize the glass and unscrew the
frame parts for replacement? The windows/sliding doors are on a high
rise balcony, and function is more of a concern than looks. thanks


How old are the windows? (ie how long have they been corroding?)
How thick is the corroded piece? How deep (actual measurement) are
the pits?
Is the material pitted through in any places?

btw anodizing is typically less than .001" thick

How extensive is the pitting? How easy to clean the pitted pieces?
Can stepped up maintenance be performed?

Answer these questions and you can at least estimate the remaining
life.

Some photos would be helpful.

Does the building have any kind of window washing rig?

cheers
Bob


Evan[_3_] January 2nd 11 05:54 PM

Pitting on alum window frames?
 
On Jan 1, 9:42*pm, dumbstruck wrote:
For a bunch of floor to ceiling windows, I have noticed extreme
pitting all over their exterior aluminum frames, far deeper than the
anodized layer. I think new window installation would cost a fortune
due to not fitting in the elevator, so I wonder where that leaves us.

I think the root cause is dirt and salt buildup that isn't flushed
due *an overhang that protects from rain but not humidity (and not
enough cleaning). So say these are cleaned more regularly - will they
structurally hold up for many more years? Is there some kind of
treatment that would help clean, protect, or disguise?

And if needing replacement, would the whole gigantic windows have to
be replaced, or can you somehow stabilize the glass and unscrew the
frame parts for replacement? The windows/sliding doors are on a high
rise balcony, and function is more of a concern than looks. thanks



Actually the problem could be just the opposite...

The infrequent cleaning with the wrong kind of cleaner could be what
is
causing your aluminum window frames to pit because unlike the rest of
the building yours are protected from the rinsing action of
rainfall...

Before you launch into all sorts of paranoid planning, find out what
your
building's window cleaners use to clean the glass... You might be
surprised that they aren't using the same sort of Windex you use for
the inside...

~~ Evan

dumbstruck January 6th 11 09:14 AM

Pitting on alum window frames?
 
On Jan 1, 6:34*pm, DD_BobK wrote:
On Jan 1, 6:42*pm, dumbstruck wrote:

For a bunch of floor to ceiling windows, I have noticed extreme
pitting all over their exterior aluminum frames, far deeper than the
anodized layer. I think new window installation would cost a fortune
due to not fitting in the elevator, so I wonder where that leaves us.


I think the root cause is dirt and salt buildup that isn't flushed
due *an overhang that protects from rain but not humidity (and not
enough cleaning). So say these are cleaned more regularly - will they
structurally hold up for many more years? Is there some kind of
treatment that would help clean, protect, or disguise?


And if needing replacement, would the whole gigantic windows have to
be replaced, or can you somehow stabilize the glass and unscrew the
frame parts for replacement? The windows/sliding doors are on a high
rise balcony, and function is more of a concern than looks. thanks


How old are the windows? (ie how long have they been corroding?)
How thick is the corroded piece? *How deep (actual measurement) are
the pits?
Is the material pitted through in any places?

btw anodizing is typically less than .001" thick

How extensive is the pitting? How easy to clean the pitted pieces?
Can stepped up maintenance be performed?

Answer these questions and you can at least estimate the remaining
life.


Window frames about 35 years old. The pits are about 1/8 inch; not
nearly thru.
I can access outside of windows and ready to treat per your
instructions, thanks. Pits can be an inch to several inches apart.


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