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I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! -- Tekkie |
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On Nov 30, 10:04*pm, Tekkie® wrote:
I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! -- Tekkie Lamp/Ballast price depends on what type of lamp and ballast you are dealing with... You would need to disassemble the fixture in question to positively identify the lamp and ballast needed there are just too many different types and lamp sizes out there to be able to give you specific advice blind over the internet... How many hours of the day do you leave the fixture on ? You will only get x-thousand hours of lamp life out of a light fixture, and the same logic applies to ballasts... ~~ Evan |
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On 11/30/2010 9:04 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! Best color, more natural light will be from a metal halide light. The most efficient as far a light output will be a high pressure sodium light but the light is quite yellow. I like the metal halide lights myself. TDD |
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"Tekkie®" wrote in message m... I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Cold be the ballast. I just ordered part for a metal halide light and paid $125. It was easier than replacing the entire fixture and save about $60. Your local electric supply house may have parts or check them out at www.mcmaster.com |
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On Dec 1, 12:26*am, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:04:03 -0500, Tekkie wrote: I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! Change the bulb. *Cost around $10. I have one of these lights, the bulbs flciker when they are getting weak. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's usually the bulb. Metal Halide fixture will have a ballast transformer and a capacitor. High pressure sodium will also have a starter. The parts are pretty cheap online. . |
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In article , Tekkie® wrote:
I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. My experience is that over 90% of the time, the cause is the bulb needing to be replaced. -- - Don Klipstein ) |
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Tekkie® posted for all of us...
I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! The electrical contractor was here weeks ahead of expectations. The existing light was a dusk to dawn mercury vapor. Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Waiting for invoice. Thanks everyone for the replies. -- Tekkie |
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On 12/2/2010 9:08 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Tekkie® posted for all of us... I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! The electrical contractor was here weeks ahead of expectations. The existing light was a dusk to dawn mercury vapor. Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Waiting for invoice. Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll bet you like the color of the light from the metal halide fixture. :-) TDD |
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On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:06:58 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 12/2/2010 9:08 PM, Tekkie® wrote: Tekkie® posted for all of us... I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! The electrical contractor was here weeks ahead of expectations. The existing light was a dusk to dawn mercury vapor. Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Waiting for invoice. Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll bet you like the color of the light from the metal halide fixture. :-) TDD Could be worse - it could be Sodium Vapour - - - |
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The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...
The electrical contractor was here weeks ahead of expectations. The existing light was a dusk to dawn mercury vapor. Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Waiting for invoice. Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll bet you like the color of the light from the metal halide fixture. :-) TDD I do ! -- Tekkie |
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In article , Tekkie® wrote
in part: Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Metal halide bulbs contain mercury. So do high pressure sodiums. -- - Don Klipstein ) |
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On 12/10/2010 6:00 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 12/3/2010 6:56 PM, Tony Miklos wrote: On 12/2/2010 11:09 PM, wrote: On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 22:06:58 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: On 12/2/2010 9:08 PM, Tekkie® wrote: Tekkie® posted for all of us... I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! The electrical contractor was here weeks ahead of expectations. The existing light was a dusk to dawn mercury vapor. Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Waiting for invoice. Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll bet you like the color of the light from the metal halide fixture. :-) TDD Could be worse - it could be Sodium Vapour - - - Is that the pink/orange type? Very ugly. I didn't want light to light up the sky so I gutted the fixture and left only the light sensor circuit in it. Installed a 27? watt CFL and mounted the lamp about 6 feet lower than it was. Perfect! BTW, this dusk to dawn works with a relay so any lamp will work. Yellow, is the color of light sodium emits when in plasma form. Not always. High pressure sodium usually glows a whitish orangish color. There is a variant (not common) that glows a "warm white" color. It's not that hard to force sodium to produce significant secondary spectral features, and/or to have its main orange-yellow spectral feature broadened over a considerable range of the visible spectrum. In extreme cases, sodium vapor has been known to glow with a daylight-like color. Well, now that I think of it, I have to agree with you on the color. Perhaps dark yellow is what I was thinking? :-) TDD |
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On Nov 30, 11:04*pm, Tekkie® wrote:
I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! -- Tekkie Too late to suggest this to you but if you want an outside light like that contact your PoCo. Pay $4.00 a maoth. Power to it is not metered and repairs are free usually next day or two after I call it in. Initial cost was about $250 spread out over a year of power bills. no interest. JImmie |
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In article , The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/10/2010 6:00 PM, Don Klipstein wrote: , The Daring Dufas wrote: On 12/3/2010 6:56 PM, Tony Miklos wrote: On 12/2/2010 11:09 PM, wrote: SNIP to color of the light Could be worse - it could be Sodium Vapour - - - Is that the pink/orange type? Very ugly. I didn't want light to light up the sky so I gutted the fixture and left only the light sensor circuit in it. Installed a 27? watt CFL and mounted the lamp about 6 feet lower than it was. Perfect! BTW, this dusk to dawn works with a relay so any lamp will work. Yellow, is the color of light sodium emits when in plasma form. Not always. High pressure sodium usually glows a whitish orangish color. There is a variant (not common) that glows a "warm white" color. It's not that hard to force sodium to produce significant secondary spectral features, and/or to have its main orange-yellow spectral feature broadened over a considerable range of the visible spectrum. In extreme cases, sodium vapor has been known to glow with a daylight-like color. Well, now that I think of it, I have to agree with you on the color. Perhaps dark yellow is what I was thinking? :-) You may have been thinking of low pressure sodium - orangish yellow and essentially monochromatic. Things look an orangish yellow version of black-and-white under those, except for some red fluorescent objects or if other light is coming in to bring in some color. Reds, greens and blues tend to look dark - often reducing sensation of illumination. Also, night vision is less sensitive to sodium light than to a "photometrically equal" illumination by most other light. This is even worse with low pressure than with high pressure sodium. This is usually significant in lower illumination levels common in outdoor lighting at night. -- - Don Klipstein ) |
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On 12/10/2010 9:41 PM, Don Klipstein wrote:
In , The Daring Dufas wrote: On 12/10/2010 6:00 PM, Don Klipstein wrote: , The Daring Dufas wrote: On 12/3/2010 6:56 PM, Tony Miklos wrote: On 12/2/2010 11:09 PM, wrote: SNIP to color of the light Could be worse - it could be Sodium Vapour - - - Is that the pink/orange type? Very ugly. I didn't want light to light up the sky so I gutted the fixture and left only the light sensor circuit in it. Installed a 27? watt CFL and mounted the lamp about 6 feet lower than it was. Perfect! BTW, this dusk to dawn works with a relay so any lamp will work. Yellow, is the color of light sodium emits when in plasma form. Not always. High pressure sodium usually glows a whitish orangish color. There is a variant (not common) that glows a "warm white" color. It's not that hard to force sodium to produce significant secondary spectral features, and/or to have its main orange-yellow spectral feature broadened over a considerable range of the visible spectrum. In extreme cases, sodium vapor has been known to glow with a daylight-like color. Well, now that I think of it, I have to agree with you on the color. Perhaps dark yellow is what I was thinking? :-) You may have been thinking of low pressure sodium - orangish yellow and essentially monochromatic. Things look an orangish yellow version of black-and-white under those, except for some red fluorescent objects or if other light is coming in to bring in some color. Reds, greens and blues tend to look dark - often reducing sensation of illumination. Also, night vision is less sensitive to sodium light than to a "photometrically equal" illumination by most other light. This is even worse with low pressure than with high pressure sodium. This is usually significant in lower illumination levels common in outdoor lighting at night. I've actually dealt with HPS lighting for many years. My first job out of college some four decades ago was working for an electrical supply company. I installed a number of HPS lights at a marina some 30 years ago on light poles that me and the owner fabricated from square steel tubing. It was a fun project, we installed a number of self contained 50 watt fixtures on the poles around the marina which provided enough light for safely walking around the place at night. I do believe I have a 100 watt HPS bulb on top of a cabinet in the next room. I know a little bit about about 'lectricity and lighting. :-) TDD |
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On 12/10/2010 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:02:32 +0000 (UTC), (Don Klipstein) wrote: Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Metal halide bulbs contain mercury. So do high pressure sodiums. -- Correct, Mercury is now banned. In fact the government plans to have NASA explode the planet Mercury by the year 2012, using several one-hundred-gigaton nuclear bombs. They said that once the space debris stops falling in 100 to 300 years, we should all be safe. Mark Are they going to get the Lexx and Captain Stanley Tweedle to blow up the planet Mercury? :-) http://www.hulu.com/lexx TDD |
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JIMMIE posted for all of us...
On Nov 30, 11:04*pm, Tekkie® wrote: I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! -- Tekkie Too late to suggest this to you but if you want an outside light like that contact your PoCo. Pay $4.00 a maoth. Power to it is not metered and repairs are free usually next day or two after I call it in. Initial cost was about $250 spread out over a year of power bills. no interest. JImmie I had that arrangement years ago but they would only mount it to the street side pole 100 ft away. Not much good for our purpose. But thanks for the suggestion! -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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Don Klipstein posted for all of us...
In article , Tekkie® wrote in part: Owner claimed bulbs are not available because of the magic word "mercury" Replaced with metal halide fixture and wife is happy. Metal halide bulbs contain mercury. So do high pressure sodiums. And so the answer is? It's like pulling teeth; wait a minute the fillings have mercury. -- Tekkie |
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On Dec 16, 11:13*pm, Tekkie® wrote:
JIMMIE posted for all of us... On Nov 30, 11:04*pm, Tekkie® wrote: I have a mercury vapor light that turns itself on/off intermittently at night. I called the electrical contractor that installed it and thought I just needed the bulb replaced. The owners wife who answers the phone said it could also be the ballast. What are the prices of these parts? Would it be more economical to have them install a new one? Any estiguess as to labor time? It's about 15' up so they used a ground ladder and one person to install. When I purchased it from an electrical supply place (as instructed by the oelec co owner) I noticed they did not appear to be real durable... Any ideas as to what a modern alternative would be? Thanks all! -- Tekkie Too late to suggest this to you but if you want an outside light like that contact your PoCo. Pay $4.00 a maoth. Power to it is not metered and repairs are free usually next day or two after I call it in. Initial cost was about $250 spread out over a year of power bills. no interest. JImmie I had that arrangement years ago but they would only mount it to the street side pole 100 ft away. *Not much good for our purpose. But thanks for the suggestion! -- Tekkie * *Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - WOW FP&L put it up right in my backyard. Jimmie |
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My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since its their equipment, shouldnt they be the ones to repair it?
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:02:58 +0000, adhazelett
wrote: My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since it’s their equipment, shouldn’t they be the ones to repair it? What did your agreement with them say? |
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On 2/13/2021 1:02 AM, adhazelett wrote:
My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since its their equipment, shouldnt they be the ones to repair it? Need more details. Did you pay to have it installed? Where is it installed? What was the agreement prior/after installation? Is it on your property? |
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 06:02:58 +0000, adhazelett posted for all of us to digest... My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since it¤?s their equipment, shouldn¤?t they be the ones to repair it? It needs to be replaced. Who owns it? You or the PoCo? Is on your meter? Is it mounted to a pole or one of your buildings? If yours get an LED replacement. -- Tekkie |
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:10:33 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since it€?s their equipment, shouldn€?t they be the ones to repair it? It needs to be replaced. Who owns it? You or the PoCo? Is on your meter? Is it mounted to a pole or one of your buildings? If yours get an LED replacement. About a year ago a tree branch knocked out my outdoor light. Put in a request via the internet to get it repaired. A man came out and replaced the MV with a LED type. No charge for that. This is for Duke Energey in NC. That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? |
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In article , NONONOmisc07
@fmguy.com says... That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? It is their light and I think I pay close to $ 10 per month for it. It is on a pole by its self about 25 feet tall and about 150 feet of wire goes to it from the main line. Duke is not consumer-owned,but is listed on the stock exchange. It was out only about 2 days from the time I put in a work order. |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:53:42 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:10:33 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since it€?s their equipment, shouldn€?t they be the ones to repair it? It needs to be replaced. Who owns it? You or the PoCo? Is on your meter? Is it mounted to a pole or one of your buildings? If yours get an LED replacement. About a year ago a tree branch knocked out my outdoor light. Put in a request via the internet to get it repaired. A man came out and replaced the MV with a LED type. No charge for that. This is for Duke Energey in NC. That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? Used to be common for "dusk to dawn" yard lights to be provided to farms and other enterprises on a "flat Rate" basis by the electrical utility - BEFORE the meter - in which case lower power usage is in the utility's best interest |
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On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 19:13:33 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 says... That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? It is their light and I think I pay close to $ 10 per month for it. It is on a pole by its self about 25 feet tall and about 150 feet of wire goes to it from the main line. Duke is not consumer-owned,but is listed on the stock exchange. It was out only about 2 days from the time I put in a work order. Like I said - flat rate non-metered dusk to dawn lights - definitely in Duke's favor to use a low power unit - particularly when it costs them less than a new mercury lamp / ballast assembly. |
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On 2/14/2021 6:19 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 18:53:42 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 14 Feb 2021 11:10:33 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... My mercury vapor light, installed by local electric company MANY years ago, just started blinking off & on intermittently. Since it€?s their equipment, shouldn€?t they be the ones to repair it? It needs to be replaced. Who owns it? You or the PoCo? Is on your meter? Is it mounted to a pole or one of your buildings? If yours get an LED replacement. About a year ago a tree branch knocked out my outdoor light. Put in a request via the internet to get it repaired. A man came out and replaced the MV with a LED type. No charge for that. This is for Duke Energey in NC. That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? Used to be common for "dusk to dawn" yard lights to be provided to farms and other enterprises on a "flat Rate" basis by the electrical utility - BEFORE the meter - in which case lower power usage is in the utility's best interest It cost a lot less to save energy than to build the capacity to produce more. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 14 Feb 2021 23:25:03 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... That's pretty surprising that a light on your property would get such good treatment. And replacing it with something that uses a lot less eletrity afaik when their business is selling electricity. Is Duke consumer-owned, perhaps? Used to be common for "dusk to dawn" yard lights to be provided to farms and other enterprises on a "flat Rate" basis by the electrical utility - BEFORE the meter - in which case lower power usage is in the utility's best interest Yes this is a flat rate light that is the automatic dusk to dawn light. The wires go directly to the main line and there is no meter or off/on switch other than the light sensor at the top of the pole. I have no control of it at all. The less the power company has in it and the power it uses, the more they make. I seem to remember that they are in the process of changing from MV to LED for all those lights. The light lights up the back yard. It was here when we bought the house and at the time I was working about 7 nights a month so my wife wanted to keep it. Probably should have it cut off now, but I am out in the country and the only close house is about 200 feet away. It all makes sense now. |
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