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G Mulcaster October 19th 10 11:37 PM

Masonary sealers - DIY?
 
I have quite a bit of brick and cement to seal from the elements -
lots of freeze/thaw cycles around here in Winter.

Has anyone have a DIY formula for making up a batch to save on costs?

Otherwise, what are you using?

Thanks, Gary

ShadowTek[_2_] October 20th 10 11:56 AM

Masonary sealers - DIY?
 
On 2010-10-20, Nestor Kelebay wrote:

If it were my masonary, I'd paint with a masonary paint before I used a
sealer.


You mean *instead* of using a sealer, I assume. The use of the word
"before" implies that you are going to use sealer as the second coat. :p

RicodJour October 21st 10 04:51 PM

Masonary sealers - DIY?
 
On Oct 20, 12:13*am, (Nestor Kelebay)
wrote:
G Mulcaster:

You should be aware that sealing brick or concrete MAY accelerate the
damage. *That's because a sealer will only stop moisture from getting into
the masonary if it's getting in through the exposed side that you intend
to seal.

Often, the moisture that comes OUT of masonary in the form of
efflorescence gets into the masonary from inside the house. *It's often
due to warm moist air leaking into exterior walls and the moisture
accumulating as frost all winter. *Then, in spring, that frost melts and
causes both efflorescence and potentially freeze/thaw damage at the
exterior surface of the masonary.


If the efflorescence is from water vapor passing through from the
inside, please explain why the efflorescence is not even remotely
uniform across a masonry wall surface.

In a case like that, sealing the masonary would only make the problem
worse by preventing that moisture from evaporating to the outside as
quickly as possible.

If you are bent on doing something to reduce spalling, you might consider
painting the masonary with a "masonary paint". *A masonary paint is a
latex paint that acts somewhat like a check valve when it comes to water.
It allows moisture inside the wall to evaporate out through the paint, but
doesn't allow liquid water from the outside to migrate into the wall
through the paint.

The way masonary paints accomplish this is easy to understand if you
consider the plastic molecules they're made up of as long wires scrunched
up into balls.
There are spaces within each "ball" that something like sand could still
pour through. *That's because the sand particles are smaller than the
spaces between the scrunched up wire.

In a similar way, the tangled molecule that comprises a latex paint resin
has spaces between the various segments of the molecule. *In masonary
paints, the latex resin is chosen because those spaces are both larger
than the diameter of a single H2O molecule, but smaller than the distance
between H2O molecules in liquid water. *Consequently, individual H2O
molecules in the form of humidity can pass through the masonary paint
relatively easily, but not liquid water. *Thus, the masonary paint allows
any water inside the water to evaporate out through the paint, but
prevents liquid water (from rain or snow melt) to pass through the paint
into the masonary.

If it were my masonary, I'd paint with a masonary paint before I used a
sealer. *The masonary paint will perform the sealing function you want,
but won't prevent evaporation of any moisture already inside the wall.


Lots of words based on a bad assumption makes your post worthless.
Paint has pigment. You're confusing the issue and assuming that the
OP wants to cover up the brick and concrete. If you are recommending
that he use a latex/acrylic sealer because of vapor permeability
issues, just say so. http://www.discountpaint.net/store/p...productid=9507

R


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