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My crappy new washing machine
We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing
machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. |
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On Sep 18, 9:31*pm, RickH wrote:
We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs |
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On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote:
We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusor http://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pr...d_washer09.htm |
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Molly Brown wrote: Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs So why are there so many other top-loading washers that work fine, both those with and without agitators, that the government (!) allows to be sold? CFLs work great, unless you buy crap. The Home Depot ones are cheap and warranted for 9 years. Appliance repair forums at: www.Appliance411.com www.FixItNow.com www.ApplianceJunk.com |
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On Sep 19, 2:21*am, Matt wrote:
On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. Anyone else make them? Thanks for the heads up |
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On Sep 19, 1:21*am, Matt wrote:
On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Confirming, yes it's these models. Clothes still smell like sweat (son is in football, I work out, wife works out) and whites do not get white, neither do stains come out, or even the gray look to sock bottoms. Also pre-soaking is totally out of the question because washer does not fill up enough to even cover the clothes. Also the soap powder does not fully dissolve (not enough water to do that) I switched to liquid soap but all of the above issues are still there. Tries more soap tried less soap, tried everything, the basic issue here is not enough water to do much of anything. They look impressive and roomy for the price, but they are pieces of crap. I'm not going to resort to using scented soap as that is just a cover up, and neither the wife or I like scented soap. I have never been so disappointed in a purchase in my life, GE has stonewalled me for returns, they are even stone walling the store who is trying to get them to take it back and re-sell it in their outlet. I wil probably try to sell it for $100 in the local classifieds, then go buy a normal washing machine and eat the loss. |
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On 9/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote:
We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to know that any top loader without an agitator is going to be worthless. And ONE gallon of water?? Are you serious? Our front loader uses 14 and i thought that was skimping a bit. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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On 9/19/2010 9:44 AM, RickH wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Confirming, yes it's these models. Clothes still smell like sweat (son is in football, I work out, wife works out) and whites do not get white, neither do stains come out, or even the gray look to sock bottoms. Also pre-soaking is totally out of the question because washer does not fill up enough to even cover the clothes. Also the soap powder does not fully dissolve (not enough water to do that) I switched to liquid soap but all of the above issues are still there. Tries more soap tried less soap, tried everything, the basic issue here is not enough water to do much of anything. They look impressive and roomy for the price, but they are pieces of crap. I'm not going to resort to using scented soap as that is just a cover up, and neither the wife or I like scented soap. I have never been so disappointed in a purchase in my life, GE has stonewalled me for returns, they are even stone walling the store who is trying to get them to take it back and re-sell it in their outlet. I wil probably try to sell it for $100 in the local classifieds, then go buy a normal washing machine and eat the loss. I wouldn't expect anything less from GE. Does your area have any of the investigative TV reporters who pursue fraud etc? It may be tough to get them interested since GE is a big supporter of liberals and owns the most liberal network NBC. I think I would start with whatever your local version of small claims court is and file a complaint against GE that they defrauded you by selling a unit that is unfit for use. At least in my state GE would need to send one of their $500/hour lawyers to defend themselves or you would get a default judgment. |
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On 9/19/2010 8:44 AM, RickH wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Confirming, yes it's these models. Clothes still smell like sweat (son is in football, I work out, wife works out) and whites do not get white, neither do stains come out, or even the gray look to sock bottoms. Also pre-soaking is totally out of the question because washer does not fill up enough to even cover the clothes. Also the soap powder does not fully dissolve (not enough water to do that) I switched to liquid soap but all of the above issues are still there. Tries more soap tried less soap, tried everything, the basic issue here is not enough water to do much of anything. They look impressive and roomy for the price, but they are pieces of crap. I'm not going to resort to using scented soap as that is just a cover up, and neither the wife or I like scented soap. I have never been so disappointed in a purchase in my life, GE has stonewalled me for returns, they are even stone walling the store who is trying to get them to take it back and re-sell it in their outlet. I wil probably try to sell it for $100 in the local classifieds, then go buy a normal washing machine and eat the loss. when you do that, think Whirlpool duet. (no steam). You won't be disappointed. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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wrote Fisher & Paykel top loaders have all the energy saving of a front loader at about half the price. They are an old and reliable European company known for their engineering and high quality that started marketing in the US in the past 20 years. Close, but not quite. They do have an operation in Italy making cooking appliances and own DCS in the US. The origins of the company and present headquarters are in New Zealand and Australia They did not start exporting to the US and Europe until the 1980s. |
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Are you using the proper laundry soap? Serious question. We have this machine http://www.washing-machine-wizard.co...-40-cu-ft.html It's fantastic. 16 gallons per full load. It takes about 1 hour to do a load but clothes come out almost dry and clean. Dryer rarely has to work at all. But there is so much electronics that you have to use a non-suds soap like "he" types. Sudsy soaps screw up all the sensors. Here is a quick read-up on HE soap: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-he-detergent.htm Costco, at least in Canada sells it the cheapest per load. Our local appliance store sells it to and their price is maybe 2 cents a load more. |
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It's fantastic. 16 gallons per full load. It takes about 1 hour to do a load but clothes come out almost dry and clean. This should have read really clean and almost dry... : ). All our loads to date have been clean. And I work in a factory wearing heavy, sweaty clothes. |
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On 2010-09-19, Steve Barker wrote:
I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to know that any top loader without an agitator is going to be worthless. And ONE gallon of water?? Are you serious? Our front loader uses 14 and i thought that was skimping a bit. This is not even new technology. There were agitatorless washers on the mkt 60 yrs ago. I came by a used one back in the late 70s. I ditched it after a few months, it never getting clothes clean. It's unfortunate that GE has sunk so low. They used to make excellent products. They made one of the best clock radios ever produced in the late 50s. Mine lasted 20 yrs and I was still seeing like models in 2nd hand shops 10 yrs later. Likewise a toaster. My last washer was a GE toploaders and would outclean any other washer on the mkt, top or frontloader. If I ever buy another washer/dryer set, I'll look for a used set like I had. nb |
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"Molly Brown" wrote in message
... Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs ===================== Are there any environmental issues with which you agree? If yes, name one or more. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:03:48 -0500, Steve Barker
wrote: On 9/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to know that any top loader without an agitator is going to be worthless. And ONE gallon of water?? Are you serious? Our front loader uses 14 and i thought that was skimping a bit. Spoken from ignorance. Our Whirlpool Cabrio works quite well. |
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"George" wrote in message
... On 9/19/2010 9:44 AM, RickH wrote: On Sep 19, 1:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Confirming, yes it's these models. Clothes still smell like sweat (son is in football, I work out, wife works out) and whites do not get white, neither do stains come out, or even the gray look to sock bottoms. Also pre-soaking is totally out of the question because washer does not fill up enough to even cover the clothes. Also the soap powder does not fully dissolve (not enough water to do that) I switched to liquid soap but all of the above issues are still there. Tries more soap tried less soap, tried everything, the basic issue here is not enough water to do much of anything. They look impressive and roomy for the price, but they are pieces of crap. I'm not going to resort to using scented soap as that is just a cover up, and neither the wife or I like scented soap. I have never been so disappointed in a purchase in my life, GE has stonewalled me for returns, they are even stone walling the store who is trying to get them to take it back and re-sell it in their outlet. I wil probably try to sell it for $100 in the local classifieds, then go buy a normal washing machine and eat the loss. I wouldn't expect anything less from GE. I'm not happy with GE right now myself. I recently bought a washing machine model number WLSR2010KWW after researching it, and the specs say it comes with a fabric softener dispenser, but there isn't one, or the part is missing. Went back to Lowe's where I purchased it, and they called GE. GE said they would fed-ex the dispenser, they did fed-ex a part that was already there, an agitator cap, not the dispenser. I'm beginning to think that there is no fabric softener dispenser at all. I have emailed and called them myself to no avail. Last GE appliance I buy. Cheri |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:50:09 -0700, "Cheri" wrote:
"George" wrote in message ... On 9/19/2010 9:44 AM, RickH wrote: On Sep 19, 1:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Confirming, yes it's these models. Clothes still smell like sweat (son is in football, I work out, wife works out) and whites do not get white, neither do stains come out, or even the gray look to sock bottoms. Also pre-soaking is totally out of the question because washer does not fill up enough to even cover the clothes. Also the soap powder does not fully dissolve (not enough water to do that) I switched to liquid soap but all of the above issues are still there. Tries more soap tried less soap, tried everything, the basic issue here is not enough water to do much of anything. They look impressive and roomy for the price, but they are pieces of crap. I'm not going to resort to using scented soap as that is just a cover up, and neither the wife or I like scented soap. I have never been so disappointed in a purchase in my life, GE has stonewalled me for returns, they are even stone walling the store who is trying to get them to take it back and re-sell it in their outlet. I wil probably try to sell it for $100 in the local classifieds, then go buy a normal washing machine and eat the loss. I wouldn't expect anything less from GE. I'm not happy with GE right now myself. I recently bought a washing machine model number WLSR2010KWW after researching it, and the specs say it comes with a fabric softener dispenser, but there isn't one, or the part is missing. Went back to Lowe's where I purchased it, and they called GE. GE said they would fed-ex the dispenser, they did fed-ex a part that was already there, an agitator cap, not the dispenser. I'm beginning to think that there is no fabric softener dispenser at all. I have emailed and called them myself to no avail. Last GE appliance I buy. Does the fabric softener go in the agitator cap? I've had washing machines that have similar "dispensers". Basically, the "centrifugal force" throws (some of) it out during the spin cycle. Of course, the rinse water doesn't flow through the cap so it's left a sticky mess, but it's a cheap solution. |
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On 9/19/2010 9:54 AM, The Henchman wrote:
Are you using the proper laundry soap? Serious question. We have this machine http://www.washing-machine-wizard.co...-40-cu-ft.html It's fantastic. 16 gallons per full load. It takes about 1 hour to do a load but clothes come out almost dry and clean. Dryer rarely has to work at all. But there is so much electronics that you have to use a non-suds soap like "he" types. Sudsy soaps screw up all the sensors. Here is a quick read-up on HE soap: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-he-detergent.htm Costco, at least in Canada sells it the cheapest per load. Our local appliance store sells it to and their price is maybe 2 cents a load more. BS. we've been using the regular stuff in ours since day one. It works just fine. HE soap is a scam. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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On 9/19/2010 11:28 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 19, 2:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. Anyone else make them? Thanks for the heads up We've have a Whirlpool Cabrio agitatorless top-loader for a few years with no problems, other than it has to be run empty, with bleach, periodically. We bought it because the front-loaders had a miserable long-term reliability record and were betting on this top-loader being a good trade-off. So far we're happy with it. I'm a wondering how the front loaders could have "long-term reliability records" when they haven't been out a long time. LMAO!! s -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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On Sep 19, 9:02*am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Molly Brown" wrote in message ... Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs ===================== Are there any environmental issues with which you agree? If yes, name one or more. Yes, 1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. 2. Don’t cut down trees. build houses out of concrete and steel. 3. Stop all hunting of animals unless they’re not a native to their environment |
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On Sep 19, 9:54*am, "The Henchman" wrote:
Are you using the proper laundry soap? *Serious question. We have this machinehttp://www.washing-machine-wizard.com/ge-wcvh6800jww-kingsize-capacit... It's fantastic. *16 gallons per full load. *It takes about 1 hour to do a load but clothes come out almost dry and clean. *Dryer rarely has to work at all. But there is so much electronics that you have to use a non-suds soap like "he" types. *Sudsy soaps screw up all the sensors. Here is a quick read-up on HE soap:http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-he-detergent.htm Costco, at least in Canada sells it the cheapest per load. *Our local appliance store sells it to and their price is maybe 2 cents a load more. This is a top loader, yes I agree front loaders dont need an agitator and they do a great job.l Wish I had a front loader but they are also 50% more costly. |
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On Sep 19, 11:28*am, "
wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 19, 2:21*am, Matt wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money.. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. *I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. * The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. * I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. * Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. * Anyone else make them? * Thanks for the heads up We've have a Whirlpool Cabrio agitatorless top-loader for a few years with no problems, other than it has to be run empty, with bleach, periodically. *We bought it because the front-loaders had a miserable long-term reliability record and were betting on this top-loader being a good trade-off. *So far we're happy with it. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How do you do pre-soaking of a large load. Does water cover all the clothes. The GE one only puts a 2 inch puddle on the bottom. |
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Steve Barker wrote:
.... I'm a wondering how the front loaders could have "long-term reliability records" when they haven't been out a long time. LMAO!! .... Only uncommon in US markets; they've been around for quite a long time elsewhere (like 50 years, anyway that I'm aware of...) There was even a "mini-bubble" of attempted to make them popular in the US in the 60/70s...(19's, not 18's ). -- |
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On 9/19/2010 1:44 PM, Molly Brown wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:02 am, wrote: "Molly wrote in message ... Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs ===================== Are there any environmental issues with which you agree? If yes, name one or more. Yes, 1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. 2. Don’t cut down trees. build houses out of concrete and steel. 3. Stop all hunting of animals unless they’re not a native to their environment 1. Like in China, huh? That sure has worked out well for them. Sucks to be conceived as female over there- your chances of being aborted or 'stillborn' go way up. Chinese government is already starting to panic- way too many young underemployed men that can't get dates. Horny young men with time on their hands scare the crap out of governments. 2. Give you partial credit on that one, but only due to how logging industry abused the forests here in US. But enviro-damage wise, concrete and steel probably are not any friendlier. Making cement powder takes a lot of power, as does making steel beams and rolled materials. How about 'stop building McMansions, and build houses to last for more than 40 years, so we need to cut down fewer mature trees?' 3. 100 years or so too late for that one. In much of the US, deer and other species run rampant, due to elimination of most of their natural predators. (ask any cop or body shop 'in season' ) Of course, it doesn't help that they artificially spike the population by planting feedlots of grain in the state parks, but most farmers don't fence their fields either. Last winter, I had wild turkeys head-butting their reflections in my sliding doors. Snow gets deep enough in the woods and graveyard behind my house, and I get deer up on my deck trying to play pinata with the bird feeders. (I didn't know deer could climb steps....) The raccoons, squirrels, possum, and other smaller 4-legged creatures hang around my yard a lot- it probably tastes and smells better because I don't use chemicals on it. I only mean to feed the birds, but animals aren't fussy. And the local cats and raptors regard back yard bird feeders as a buffet. -- aem sends, from the real world.... |
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On 2010-09-19, dpb wrote:
There was even a "mini-bubble" of attempted to make them popular in the US in the 60/70s...(19's, not 18's ). They've always been popular in laundromats. I recall seeing them quite often ever since the 50s. In fact, it's only in the last 10-20 yrs I've seen top-loaders dominate in laundromats. nb |
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On Sep 19, 12:04*pm, RickH wrote:
On Sep 19, 11:28*am, " wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 19, 2:21*am, Matt wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. *I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. * The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. * I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. * Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. * Anyone else make them? * Thanks for the heads up We've have a Whirlpool Cabrio agitatorless top-loader for a few years with no problems, other than it has to be run empty, with bleach, periodically. *We bought it because the front-loaders had a miserable long-term reliability record and were betting on this top-loader being a good trade-off. *So far we're happy with it. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How do you do pre-soaking of a large load. *Does water cover all the clothes. *The GE one only puts a 2 inch puddle on the bottom. == You must have your settings all screwed up or your controls are faulty. Better READ the user's manual...you must have done something wrong. No manufacturer could be so inept as to make a machine with the characteristics you describe. If this doesn't help ask your dealer to come by and personally check out the situation. I wouldn't put up with a crappy machine for one minute. == |
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... Does the fabric softener go in the agitator cap? I've had washing machines that have similar "dispensers". Basically, the "centrifugal force" throws (some of) it out during the spin cycle. Of course, the rinse water doesn't flow through the cap so it's left a sticky mess, but it's a cheap solution. I know what you mean, my old Amana had one of those, it plugged up often, but this one has nothing at all. Cheri |
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"Molly Brown" wrote Yes, 1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. While I don't disagree with the number, I do disagree on how to achieve it. Government should not be in people's bedrooms. 2. Don’t cut down trees. build houses out of concrete and steel. Trees are renewable. Forests should be managed as a crop, just like a vegetable garden. Plant what you reap like the paper industry finally learned to do. Yes, some old growth should be left alone. 3. Stop all hunting of animals unless they’re not a native to their environment Nature is way out of balance on some animals. What is hunted should be for food, not for the "fun" of killing. We've eliminated many natural predators over the last couple of centuries. Education and management is what is needed. |
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"Molly Brown" wrote in message
... On Sep 19, 9:02 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Molly Brown" wrote in message ... Another crappy product brought to you by the environmentalist idiots who brought you the crappy CFL light bulbs ===================== Are there any environmental issues with which you agree? If yes, name one or more. Yes, 1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. 2. Don’t cut down trees. build houses out of concrete and steel. 3. Stop all hunting of animals unless they’re not a native to their environment =========== Very interesting. Now, what makes other people's environmental concerns less valid than yours? Focus specifically on washing machines and CFL bulbs. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
... "Molly Brown" wrote Yes, 1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. While I don't disagree with the number, I do disagree on how to achieve it. Government should not be in people's bedrooms. Please provide an example (using this "two kids per couple" issue) of how government might be "in people's bedrooms". |
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
... On 9/19/2010 11:28 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 19, 2:21 am, wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. Just trying to save someone else the headache and money. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. Anyone else make them? Thanks for the heads up We've have a Whirlpool Cabrio agitatorless top-loader for a few years with no problems, other than it has to be run empty, with bleach, periodically. We bought it because the front-loaders had a miserable long-term reliability record and were betting on this top-loader being a good trade-off. So far we're happy with it. I'm a wondering how the front loaders could have "long-term reliability records" when they haven't been out a long time. LMAO!! It's true according to them, whoever they are. :-) |
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In article , Molly Brown wrote:
1. Stop having more than two children per couple. Make it the law. Completely unnecessary. The birth rate is already lower than that in many developed countries. 2. Don't cut down trees. build houses out of concrete and steel. Oh, *there's* a good idea: use non-renewable resources in preference to renewable ones. So *very* environmentally friendly. 3. Stop all hunting of animals unless they're not a native to their environment. Another wonderful idea. So we shouldn't hunt whitetail deer here in the Midwest, where their population is out of control? And nobody should be allowed to hunt mountain lions in the Southwest, where they stalk *humans*? Obviously you haven't thought *any* of these ideas through. |
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On 2010-09-19, Doug Miller wrote:
Completely unnecessary. The birth rate is already lower than that in many developed countries. Yeah. The last I heard, if it weren't for the illegals, we'd be losing ground. nb |
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On Sep 19, 12:40*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
On 9/19/2010 11:28 AM, wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:53:17 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 19, 2:21 am, *wrote: On 09/18/2010 11:31 PM, RickH wrote: We've owned a GE "Infusion" agitatorless "energy saving" washing machine for about 2 months now. *I have not had fully clean clothes for about 2 months. *These things are a piece of crap, they use about a gallon of water so the clothes basically slosh around in a small mud puddle, never getting fully clean. *Forget about getting out tough stains, also clothes have an odor as they never fully rinse (not enough water) the rinse cycle is another small mud puddle. *The washer does not even fill enough to wet all the clothes until after 10 minutes of running. *They enclosed a large yellow warning in the manual that this is "normal", bull****, they're just covering their asses on complaints. *I called the GE consumer line and the guy told me flat out nobody is happy with these washers. I'm just warning others thinking of getting one of the GE agitatorless washers. *Stick with the tried and true, get the agitator and one that uses a lot of water if you want it to, get a Whirlpool with mechanical controls. *Just trying to save someone else the headache and money.. Maybe if you live in a desert, but I'm in the Great Lakes, I dont need to conserve water to this extent water's practically free here. *These washers have set things back to beating clothes on a rock. I should have read the reviews first, they are not good, I'm not the only one having dirty clothes all the time. Thank you. Some of these words _may_ apply: WPR815OK WPRE615OK CEE Tier II WPR815OK WHRE55OK PerfecTemp CEE Tier I GE General Electric GE Profile™ Topload Washer Infusor RainShower SpeedWash HydroWave with Infusorhttp://www.geconsumerproducts.com/pressroom/press_releases/appliances...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn;t even know these existed. *I thought all top loaders used an agitator and the only washers that did not were front-loaders. * The front-loaders work with far less water and energy, but they cost significantly more. * I guess this shows the risk when you buy something that isn't tried and proven. * Surprising GE would sell them if they perform so poorly. * Anyone else make them? * Thanks for the heads up We've have a Whirlpool Cabrio agitatorless top-loader for a few years with no problems, other than it has to be run empty, with bleach, periodically. *We bought it because the front-loaders had a miserable long-term reliability record and were betting on this top-loader being a good trade-off. *So far we're happy with it. I'm a wondering how the front loaders could have "long-term reliability records" *when they haven't been out a long time. *LMAO!! s -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email So it's up to the buyer to use the right tool for the job, those SOBs at GE |
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This is a top loader, yes I agree front loaders dont need an agitator and they do a great job.l Wish I had a front loader but they are also 50% more costly. For anyone following this thread it never hurts to check into government rebates like sales tax refunds or income tax refunds for buying efficient stuff like appliances. Just make sure the retailers don't jack up the prices during the rebate period like they sometimes will for a/c's or furnaces. |
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