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mm August 26th 10 06:32 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 
I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. (they have their own built in filters)

But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.


Is there any other special or needed request I should make (so that I
don't find out later I needed something but it wasn't included) for
the oil furnace or the Air Conditioning.

Something they might want extra money for it after they casually cause
me to think of it during the install? (Do you want the
rodent-protected air-intake?, for example.)

No one bolts the compressor unit to the cement pad, right?** I don't
need a new cement pad do I if the current one isn't cracked?

**The unit has gradually moved a couple inches off the pad, but in
another 31 years, I'll probably be dead.

harry August 26th 10 10:52 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 
On Aug 26, 6:32*am, mm wrote:
I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? * For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. *They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. *(they have their own built in filters)

But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.

Is there any other special or needed request I should make (so that I
don't find out later I needed something but it wasn't included) for
the oil furnace or the Air Conditioning.

Something they might want extra money for it after they casually cause
me to think of it during the install? *(Do you want the
rodent-protected air-intake?, for example.)

No one bolts the compressor unit to the cement pad, right?** *I don't
need a new cement pad do I if the current one isn't cracked?

**The unit has gradually moved a couple inches off the pad, but in
another 31 years, I'll probably be dead.


The reason for filters in the oil line is that if you have a steel oil
tank, condensation water in the bottom of the tank causes rust which
might find it's way into and block small orifices or damage the oil
pump. (If it is a pressure jet burner). If your oil tank is plastic,
it's less important but still desireable, I don't know if your
delivery tankers in America have filters on the oll delivery line.
Your oil tank should be installed with a slight slope and two outlets,
one at the bottom at each end . The lower one is to drain any
condensation, the upper is for the oil to your furnace. You should
check for condensation every couple of months or so, depending on your
climate.

Small refrigeration compressors usually freestand on rubber feet. If
your's has moved, it probably indicates that you cement base is not
level & it's run away downhill over the years.

Ed Pawlowski[_2_] August 26th 10 10:52 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 

"mm" wrote
But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.




Something they might want extra money for it after they casually cause
me to think of it during the install? (Do you want the
rodent-protected air-intake?, for example.)


I've always had a filter and it is changed as a part of the normal service
on the burner. I'd think you have the potential need for it after 31 years
of accumulated sludge and whatever now than in the past.

When I got my new boiler, they also abandoned the old oil line that went
under the floor and went overhead. The air intake is rodent proof from the
factory.

If they are looking for extra money at the install, they are either
careless, sleazy, or both. As pros, they are supposed to think of all that
stuff up front.


Jim Elbrecht August 26th 10 11:54 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:32:19 -0400, mm
wrote:

I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. (they have their own built in filters)


I sure would-- I have two on mine because my oil tank is under the
eaves. The first one catches a bunch of water, which makes some goop,
which the other one catches. They sure are cheap insurance
against all the crap that *can* go wrong.

I only service the burner every other year-- but the filters get
changed yearly.


But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.


Is there any other special or needed request I should make (so that I
don't find out later I needed something but it wasn't included) for
the oil furnace or the Air Conditioning.

If you're not up to doing it yourself, [it isn't that bad a job] I'd
at least get a price on installing an whole house humidifier. I'm
on my 3rd year with one and kick myself for not putting it in 25 years
ago. More comfort, less fuss-- and cheaper in the long run.

Jim
[mine's an Aprilaire- after seeing almost everyone rave about them-- I
agree]

[email protected] August 26th 10 04:20 PM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:54:58 -0400, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:32:19 -0400, mm
wrote:

I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. (they have their own built in filters)


I sure would-- I have two on mine because my oil tank is under the
eaves. The first one catches a bunch of water, which makes some goop,
which the other one catches. They sure are cheap insurance
against all the crap that *can* go wrong.

I only service the burner every other year-- but the filters get
changed yearly.


But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.


Is there any other special or needed request I should make (so that I
don't find out later I needed something but it wasn't included) for
the oil furnace or the Air Conditioning.

If you're not up to doing it yourself, [it isn't that bad a job] I'd
at least get a price on installing an whole house humidifier. I'm
on my 3rd year with one and kick myself for not putting it in 25 years
ago. More comfort, less fuss-- and cheaper in the long run.

Jim
[mine's an Aprilaire- after seeing almost everyone rave about them-- I
agree]

I replaced mine 3 times on the first furnace (the humidifier) and
decided not to waste my money when I installed the new furnace.
House is pretty tight, and if it gets too dry I take a shower, wash
the dishes, or make a pot of tea.

Stormin Mormon[_4_] August 27th 10 03:00 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 
I would. They aren't gosh awful expensive. at least, not when compared
to oil gun overhauls, and the couple days living in a cold house while
the parts are back ordered.

Got to keep up with the Joneses, get a filter.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"mm" wrote in message
...
I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. (they have their own built in filters)

But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.




mm August 27th 10 05:07 AM

Advice needed: Oil filter needed for oil furnace?
 

Thanks, clare and all of you.

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:20:06 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:54:58 -0400, Jim Elbrecht
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:32:19 -0400, mm
wrote:

I'm about to get a final price for a new oil furnace.

Need I make sure that they will install an oil filter in the line from
the in-the-basement oil tank? For the last 31 years, since the house
was new, there hasn't been one, and that doesn't seem to have caused
any problems. They always leave the old oil nozzle behind and it's
never dirty on the surface, plus I never had to get service because
the nozzle was clogged. (they have their own built in filters)


I sure would-- I have two on mine because my oil tank is under the
eaves. The first one catches a bunch of water, which makes some goop,
which the other one catches. They sure are cheap insurance
against all the crap that *can* go wrong.

I only service the burner every other year-- but the filters get
changed yearly.


But I know, at least I think, some people have oil filters.


Is there any other special or needed request I should make (so that I
don't find out later I needed something but it wasn't included) for
the oil furnace or the Air Conditioning.

If you're not up to doing it yourself, [it isn't that bad a job] I'd
at least get a price on installing an whole house humidifier. I'm
on my 3rd year with one and kick myself for not putting it in 25 years
ago. More comfort, less fuss-- and cheaper in the long run.

Jim
[mine's an Aprilaire- after seeing almost everyone rave about them-- I
agree]

I replaced mine 3 times on the first furnace (the humidifier) and
decided not to waste my money when I installed the new furnace.
House is pretty tight, and if it gets too dry I take a shower, wash
the dishes, or make a pot of tea.



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