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Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should
you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl |
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ... Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl Just give them to a welder for a couple of weeks. If you get enough oil into the leather, and you have serious allergic reactions to PI, I would just toss them. |
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"Cheryl" wrote in message ... Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl Not a matter of treating, but of removing the oil residue. I'd not use them again, except for more poison ivy removal. Meantime, I'd keep them in a plastic bag so no one accidently handles them. |
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... Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl Go to WebMD, look up poison ivy, they mention two chemical used to clean/dissolve the toxic oil. If I have a chance, I'll look. But, as an oil, it should be soluble in detergent as well, which should help. Or, shmearings with vegetable oil, followed by detergent. Vegetable oil will remove some shop grease that even detergents have a problem with. -- EA |
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Cheryl wrote:
Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Urushiol cannot be deactivated by normal means, and is very persistent. The only solution is to remove it with detergents, but I do not know if these would work with leather. More importantly, if you have ever had a reaction to the resin in poison ivy, you would know that the only answer is, "no, throw them away". In other words, if you told me I had to pay you $50 or I "might" get contact dermatitis, you would have $50. Jon |
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On 7/27/2010 9:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Cheryl" wrote in message ... Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl Not a matter of treating, but of removing the oil residue. I'd not use them again, except for more poison ivy removal. Meantime, I'd keep them in a plastic bag so no one accidently handles them. Those long heavy welders gloves are great for picking up trapped feral cats too. :-) TDD |
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On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote:
Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. |
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On Jul 28, 7:19*am, ransley wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me |
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On Jul 28, 7:19*am, ransley wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. A distinction needs to be made between soap and detergent. Soap will not remove oils, you need a detergent for that. So washing clothes in a washing machine will work, it uses a detergent. But washing with soap and water will not work. For washing after handling PI, I found 2 things that work well. Fels Naptha bar detergent can be found in the laundry section of hardware or grocery stores. I guess it used to contain napthalene, which will dissolve oils well. Now it doesn't so it's safe for household use. The fact that it says it's used to pre-treat clothes, and that it has surfactants in it highly suggest that it would be a detergent. The other solution I have had success with is Tec-Nu. It's a thick liquid that I rub on my arms and legs after handling PI, then wash off in the shower. Tec-Nu is expensive, $12 for a bottle but it will last for many applications and works well. |
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On Jul 27, 10:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote:
Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. |
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On Jul 28, 6:25*am, " wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:19*am, ransley wrote: On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Soap is alot easier on you than gasolene, all you need to do is break down the oil residue of poison ive oak or sumac and wash it off, hand soap, dish soap work fine but dont forget the shoes and pants, if gas is close by and the only thing I guess I would use it probably alot of chemicals in my garage would break down the oil. |
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On Jul 28, 7:30*am, teabird wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:19*am, ransley wrote: On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. A distinction needs to be made between soap and detergent. *Soap will not remove oils, you need a detergent for that. *So washing clothes in a washing machine will work, it uses a detergent. *But washing with soap and water will not work. For washing after handling PI, I found 2 things that work well. *Fels Naptha bar detergent can be found in the laundry section of hardware or grocery stores. *I guess it used to contain napthalene, which will dissolve oils well. *Now it doesn't so it's safe for household use. The fact that it says it's used to pre-treat clothes, and that it has surfactants in it highly suggest that it would be a detergent. *The other solution I have had success with is Tec-Nu. *It's a thick liquid that I rub on my arms and legs after handling PI, then wash off in the shower. *Tec-Nu is expensive, $12 for a bottle but it will last for many applications and works well.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ive been exposed 20+ times since my big time in 86, bar hand soap is all ive used and I have had no outbreak. Any hand soap breaks down poison ivys oils so water can wash it away, even just hosing your hands after touching it has keep me from having any problems. But I wash within 15 minutes of pulling it. |
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On Jul 28, 10:03*am, ransley wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:30*am, teabird wrote: On Jul 28, 7:19*am, ransley wrote: On Jul 27, 9:22*pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. A distinction needs to be made between soap and detergent. *Soap will not remove oils, you need a detergent for that. *So washing clothes in a washing machine will work, it uses a detergent. *But washing with soap and water will not work. For washing after handling PI, I found 2 things that work well. *Fels Naptha bar detergent can be found in the laundry section of hardware or grocery stores. *I guess it used to contain napthalene, which will dissolve oils well. *Now it doesn't so it's safe for household use. The fact that it says it's used to pre-treat clothes, and that it has surfactants in it highly suggest that it would be a detergent. *The other solution I have had success with is Tec-Nu. *It's a thick liquid that I rub on my arms and legs after handling PI, then wash off in the shower. *Tec-Nu is expensive, $12 for a bottle but it will last for many applications and works well.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ive been exposed 20+ times since my big time in 86, bar hand soap is all ive used and I have had no outbreak. Any hand soap breaks down poison ivys oils so water can wash it away, even just hosing your hands after touching it has keep me from having any problems. But I wash within 15 minutes of pulling it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I agree. The trick is to wash well right away. I fight it in our yard. As long as I know I've been in it I can avoid the rash. I use gloves and wash them well with the other cloths I was wearing in the laundry with a heavy shot of detergent and extra time on the dial. But I use those cheap contruction gloves from lowes, few bucks a pair. They hold up for 3 or 4 washings and then they're trash. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 27, 10:22 pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. I've used hot baths for mosquito bites when the itching got really bad or the bites were numerous....I think the heat just increases the circulation, and thus the antibody/immune reaction and gets it over with more quickly. Itching would increase for a little bit, in the warm bath, but then be essentially gone by the time I finished. Careful with that hair dryer...if the itching is bad enough, may not feel skin burning. Hot shower, along with careful stretching exercise, got rid of really nasty tendonitis of shoulder...after trying Rx anti-inflammatory that made my stomach hurt. Didn't want bleeding ulcer, so quit those. |
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On Jul 28, 10:34*am, "
wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 27, 10:22 pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? *Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. *Thank you. Cheryl As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. I've used hot baths for mosquito bites when the itching got really bad or the bites were numerous....I think the heat just increases the circulation, and thus the antibody/immune reaction and gets it over with more quickly. *Itching would increase for a little bit, in the warm bath, but then be essentially gone by the time I finished. *Careful with that hair dryer...if the itching is bad enough, may not feel skin burning.. Hot shower, along with careful stretching exercise, got rid of really nasty tendonitis of shoulder...after trying Rx anti-inflammatory that made my stomach hurt. *Didn't want bleeding ulcer, so quit those.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "I've used hot baths for mosquito bites when the itching got really bad or the bites were numerous" Oh, come on...be honest. You just needed an excuse to luxuriate in a long hot bubble bath to relieve the stress of the day. "Sorry darling, but my mosquito bites are really itchy. I need to take a long, hot bath. By the way, could you bring me a glass of wine?" ;-) |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:34 am, " wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 27, 10:22 pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. I've used hot baths for mosquito bites when the itching got really bad or the bites were numerous....I think the heat just increases the circulation, and thus the antibody/immune reaction and gets it over with more quickly. Itching would increase for a little bit, in the warm bath, but then be essentially gone by the time I finished. Careful with that hair dryer...if the itching is bad enough, may not feel skin burning. Hot shower, along with careful stretching exercise, got rid of really nasty tendonitis of shoulder...after trying Rx anti-inflammatory that made my stomach hurt. Didn't want bleeding ulcer, so quit those.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "I've used hot baths for mosquito bites when the itching got really bad or the bites were numerous" Oh, come on...be honest. You just needed an excuse to luxuriate in a long hot bubble bath to relieve the stress of the day. "Sorry darling, but my mosquito bites are really itchy. I need to take a long, hot bath. By the way, could you bring me a glass of wine?" ;-) I'm fair skinned and rather sensitive, so when I have a bunch of skeeter bites, I don't need any further irritation....would go for the wine, though ) |
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On Jul 28, 12:12*pm, (Malcolm Hoar) wrote:
In article , " wrote: Hot shower, along with careful stretching exercise, got rid of really nasty tendonitis of shoulder...after trying Rx anti-inflammatory that made my stomach hurt. *Didn't want bleeding ulcer, so quit those. Tip for anyone that needs to take those anti-inflammatory meds: Take them with a glass of milk. It reduces stomach problems very effectively. ....unless you have issues with dairy products... |
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:22:44 -0400, "Cheryl"
wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? What makes you think it's finished. Some of that stuff will grow back, I think. Save the gloves for the next time. Each in a separate ziploc bag, so the fingers of one don't get in the other. I think I saw on the tv new that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl |
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wrote: I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me It might not be alive to begin with. |
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ransley wrote:
On Jul 28, 7:30 am, teabird wrote: On Jul 28, 7:19 am, ransley wrote: On Jul 27, 9:22 pm, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl Soap and water dissolve and remove the oil that causes the irritation, if its on gloves then its probably on your pants and shoes as brushing into a plant releases the plants oil, just wash everything. The palms of your hands have thick skin and are the least supceptable part of your body to Urishiol oil, and if your wash your hands within an a half hour or so nothing should happen. Welders gloves are a bit overkill as light duty gloves will work, but just throw them in a bucket of water with dish washing detergent. The oils remain active for something like 6++ months so wash it off. Google about it for more specific informaton. Once I pulled doen vines and burnt them, didnt shower and didnt know I was breathing Poison ivy burning, I had about 250 welts on each arm, was sick for at least 6 months from breathing the smoke, and I spread it over my body from not washing. I pull it mistakenly now and notice it poison ivy to late, I just wash off my hands with a hose and some soap now and no problem. The important thing is removal of the oil within about 1/2 hour and not touching any other part of your body. A distinction needs to be made between soap and detergent. Soap will not remove oils, you need a detergent for that. So washing clothes in a washing machine will work, it uses a detergent. But washing with soap and water will not work. For washing after handling PI, I found 2 things that work well. Fels Naptha bar detergent can be found in the laundry section of hardware or grocery stores. I guess it used to contain napthalene, which will dissolve oils well. Now it doesn't so it's safe for household use. The fact that it says it's used to pre-treat clothes, and that it has surfactants in it highly suggest that it would be a detergent. The other solution I have had success with is Tec-Nu. It's a thick liquid that I rub on my arms and legs after handling PI, then wash off in the shower. Tec-Nu is expensive, $12 for a bottle but it will last for many applications and works well.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ive been exposed 20+ times since my big time in 86, bar hand soap is all ive used and I have had no outbreak. Any hand soap breaks down poison ivys oils so water can wash it away, even just hosing your hands after touching it has keep me from having any problems. But I wash within 15 minutes of pulling it. Yes, soap does dissolve and remove oils. Maybe not all oils as well as a detergent but for poison ivy, Ivory soap has worked for me for 30 years. I shower within 1 hour of contact, (I lather and rinse twice). Immediately wash outside with soap/detergent if I have some scratches that may have been exposed. Get the cheap $1 gloves and throw them away. Actually I seldom use any gloves unless it's a big job. Depending on how much my clothing was exposed, I'll undress in the laundry room, or many times on the front porch (I'm not so sure everyone here can do that without risk of arrest). The clothing goes straight to the washing machine and me straight to the shower. I also wash the shower knobs after I've touched them. Some people still think you can spread it by contacting the oozing blisters, thats an old wives tale. Once you wash well, you can't spread it. It's not a disease, it's an allergic reaction to the oil. Once the oil is gone, no chance of spreading it. |
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On 07/28/10 01:24 pm, mm wrote:
I think I saw on the tv news that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? My wife is suffering from a poison ivory attack at present. At 9am when she bought some stuff at the drugstore to alleviate the itching, the checkout person said, "What's going on here? You're the third person who's bought this stuff already today!" Perce |
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On Jul 28, 1:33*pm, Tony wrote:
mm wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:25:34 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me It might not be alive to begin with. Exactly. *I never heard of living oil, poison ivy oil or any other. *If oil was living, we could just keep harvesting new crude oil instead of drilling for more! The active ingrediant of poison ivy is termed an oil, Eurushiol. Thats why it can stay active 12 months on tools, clothing etc. Soapy water is the quickest way to wash it off, but getting it off quickly is most important. You can walk throught it or your pet does and that night take off your shoes or pet yout dog, rub your eyes, take a ****, and the next morning be itching. |
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On Jul 28, 4:28*pm, ransley wrote:
On Jul 28, 1:33*pm, Tony wrote: mm wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:25:34 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me It might not be alive to begin with. Exactly. *I never heard of living oil, poison ivy oil or any other. *If oil was living, we could just keep harvesting new crude oil instead of drilling for more! The active ingrediant of poison ivy is termed an oil, Eurushiol. Thats why it can stay active 12 months on tools, clothing etc. Soapy water is the quickest way to wash it off, but getting it off quickly is most important. You can walk throught it or your pet does and that night take off your shoes or pet yout dog, rub your eyes, take a ****, and the next morning be itching. 3 weeks ago my buddy went out for a bike ride. His front tire slipped off the pavement and he crashed face first into a pile of Poison Ivy. The bruises got better in a week or so and he fixed the bike. He was thinking he got lucky with the Poison Ivy. I got an email last night. His arms and face are showing the tell-tale rash and he's beginning to itch. |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:19:30 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote: On 07/28/10 01:24 pm, mm wrote: I think I saw on the tv news that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? My wife is suffering from a poison ivory attack at present. At 9am when she bought some stuff at the drugstore to alleviate the itching, the checkout person said, "What's going on here? You're the third person who's bought this stuff already today!" Perce Yes, it was both poison ivy and manta rays, and jelly fish, that are flourishing in the hot weather. I found that rHuli-spray is very good for poison ivy, but that was 10 years ago. When I went looking for more 5 years ago, no one sold it and it wasn't on the net. They still have rHuli-cream and/or rHuli-gel. I didn't want that because I didn't want to touch the area with poison ivy. I thought that would start it itching again. But they are both topical anesthetics and the sprray worked for 4 hours iirc, maybe more, which was pretty darn good. I've never gotten anywhere with calaimine lotion. I hear it soaks up the seepage but I don't care about the seepage. I care about the itching. So what is the point of calamine lotion? Hmmm. ONe guy on the web says rHuli-spray is sold at Walmart (and I'm sure lots of other places) by Band-Aid under the name of Calamine Spray. Well maybe. The original had no calamine anything, but maybe they think they have to say that, or include that. What it did have was an skin anesthetic and if it has that, it might be the same thing, or at least good. These pages have eveyrone's solutions, good or bad. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2uJRhibvOTIJoisonivy.aesir.com/view/commercial.html+rHuli-spray&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_iw|lang_es| lang_en http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:L_i3q4Mp9GwJoisonivy.aesir.com/view/misc.html+rHuli-spray&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_iw|lang_es| lang_en |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. I've always done this in the shower, with increasingly hot water. Jon |
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mm wrote:
On 07/28/10 01:24 pm, mm wrote: I think I saw on the tv news that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? Yes, it was both poison ivy and manta rays, and jelly fish, that are flourishing in the hot weather. Old news from the alarmists, getting dredged up in time for summer. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13046200/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias Jon |
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On 7/28/2010 5:30 AM teabird spake thus:
A distinction needs to be made between soap and detergent. Soap will not remove oils, you need a detergent for that. So washing clothes in a washing machine will work, it uses a detergent. But washing with soap and water will not work. This is what's called a distinction without a difference. Detergent *is* soap. (Of course, not all soap is detergent.) You could look it up. All soaps work basically the same way, by attracting and binding oils. They may do it in different ways, or better or worse, but they all will remove oils to some extent. (Soap is actually fairly magical stuff, consisting of molecules that have one end that's polar and one that's non-polar: the polar end is hydrophilic and attracts water, while the non-polar end is hydrophobic and attracts oil.) Soap and water *will* work, given enough soap and elbow grease. Hey, I even ran across a web page that describes all this as it regards poison ivy: http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/soap.html -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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ALWAYS WASH WITH COLD WATER, hot water opens the pores, making any
exposure worse... And avoid vigirous scrubbing so you DONT rub the poision oil into it....... |
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On Jul 28, 5:01*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: As an aside, I just found an excellent way to relieve the itching from Poison Ivy, having recently come in contact with some. Use a blow dryer. Blow dry the area for a minute or so at the highest heat you can stand - just don't burn your skin. The itching will get really intense and then suddenly disappear. Go on, Google it and see. People rave about it and now I do too. It has something to do with both drying out the oozing from the rash as well as fooling the nerves with the heat. I "blew dry" the rash and the itching would go away for 6 - 8 hours at a time. I've always done this in the shower, with increasingly hot water. Jon With the blow dryer working for 6 - 8 hours, I blew it before I left for work, then again right after lunch - in the men's room at work. Taking showers isn't always possible but finding an AC outlet is usually pretty easy. |
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On Jul 28, 3:45*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 28, 4:28*pm, ransley wrote: On Jul 28, 1:33*pm, Tony wrote: mm wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:25:34 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me It might not be alive to begin with. Exactly. *I never heard of living oil, poison ivy oil or any other. *If oil was living, we could just keep harvesting new crude oil instead of drilling for more! The active ingrediant of poison ivy is termed an oil, Eurushiol. Thats why it can stay active 12 months on tools, clothing etc. Soapy water is the quickest way to wash it off, but getting it off quickly is most important. You can walk throught it or your pet does and that night take off your shoes or pet yout dog, rub your eyes, take a ****, and the next morning be itching. 3 weeks ago my buddy went out for a bike ride. His front tire slipped off the pavement and he crashed face first into a pile of Poison Ivy. The bruises got better in a week or so and he fixed the bike. He was thinking he got lucky with the Poison Ivy. I got an email last night. His arms and face are showing the tell-tale rash and he's beginning to itch.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When I was pulling and burning poison ivy vines I didnt shower that night, I was partying big time, My face, arms, where I scratched and used the bathroom, about everywhere in a few days got me, 2 treatments of seriods failed, my arms has 250 or so welts some the size of dimes and 1/4"high, the hospital wanted me admitted and said its so bad it has to be something else. It affected my health from breathing it for years and spontaniously re appeared every 6 months for maybe 3 years on my fingers. I felt for along time like I would die and couldnt work. Itching was a nightmare. Then I didnt know poison ivy grew as a vine, I was clearing land and soaked in the poison and in the smoke as we burnt it. That day ruined the rest of my summer. I wonder what the Indians did. I could imagine it being used to torture people, by being tied into a patch for a few days. So any 3 leaf plant scares me, but I pulled some the other day by mistake and just used a bar of soap amd water and im fine. |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:40 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: mm wrote: On 07/28/10 01:24 pm, mm wrote: I think I saw on the tv news that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? Yes, it was both poison ivy and manta rays, and jelly fish, that are flourishing in the hot weather. Old news from the alarmists, getting dredged up in time for summer. The same stories didn't mention global warming, only the hot summer. They might have run the same stories in other hot summers, but that doesn't mean they're false, and your urls below don't suggest they are false. The last story of every network evening new show is rarely very important. They're called "human interest" stories, and I found it interetsig that these three things are flourishing this year. I'm not alarmed, and I don't think they intended to alarm anyone. If the stinging jellyfish are closer to shore, as they are some places, the lifeguards or someone will probably tell the swimmers. Is that all right with you? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13046200/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias Jon |
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Malcolm Hoar wrote:
In article , " wrote: Hot shower, along with careful stretching exercise, got rid of really nasty tendonitis of shoulder...after trying Rx anti-inflammatory that made my stomach hurt. Didn't want bleeding ulcer, so quit those. Tip for anyone that needs to take those anti-inflammatory meds: Take them with a glass of milk. It reduces stomach problems very effectively. I followed the instructions religiously, and I have a cast iron stomach ) Can eat just about anything, although more than half a head of cooked cabbage might keep me awake half the night ) Love it! I had had the tendonitis for quite some time, second shoulder to have it, and I was worried about "frozen shoulder". After I couldn't tolerate the anti-inflam., I went back to the doc, thinking he might order a couple of ultrasound sessions. His final reply was, "Well, at your age things sometimes don't work right". #@^#$!(& SOB! Mebbe he has a shoulder he can live without, but I need both of mine. I don't go to the doc unless heat/cold/rest fail to cure what ails me...so far, I've kept all of my body parts except tonsils....lost those only because I wanted to go along to the doc when my mom took my little brother. We went to hospital together to have our tonsils out, ether anes. Gack! Suffered through a probable cracked pelvis, a couple of serious back strains and a fall from a skate board. Had to do level-of-conciousness checks every two hours after the skate board fall on cement floor...small lac. back of head....just went to work that night and stayed awake all night (at hospital) |
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mm wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:22:44 -0400, "Cheryl" wrote: Can you treat heavy duty welders gloves to kill poison ivy residue or should you just throw them out when the work to clear it is finished? What makes you think it's finished. Some of that stuff will grow back, I think. Save the gloves for the next time. Each in a separate ziploc bag, so the fingers of one don't get in the other. I think I saw on the tv new that because of warmth or something, this will be a big year for poison ivy, or was that manta rays? They have been having a hell of a time with sting rays in FL, gulf. Welders gloves might be overkill but I just want to know if I can reuse them. Thank you. Cheryl |
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ransley wrote:
On Jul 28, 1:33 pm, Tony wrote: mm wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:25:34 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I detox after poision ivy exposure with a rag wet with gasoline. Figuring it will kill whatever is on me It might not be alive to begin with. Exactly. I never heard of living oil, poison ivy oil or any other. If oil was living, we could just keep harvesting new crude oil instead of drilling for more! The active ingrediant of poison ivy is termed an oil, Eurushiol. Thats why it can stay active 12 months on tools, clothing etc. Soapy water is the quickest way to wash it off, but getting it off quickly is most important. You can walk throught it or your pet does and that night take off your shoes or pet yout dog, rub your eyes, take a ****, and the next morning be itching. Yes, I already knew that. Actually I think it can remain potent for more than a year. And it's not just the leaves, the whole dang vine has urushiol in/on it. http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/fastfacts.html |
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:35:21 -0700, ransley wrote:
When I was pulling and burning poison ivy vines I didnt shower that night, I was partying big time, My face, arms, where I scratched and used the bathroom, about everywhere in a few days got me, 2 treatments of seriods failed, my arms has 250 or so welts some the size of dimes and 1/4"high, the hospital wanted me admitted and said its so bad it has to be something else. It affected my health from breathing it for years and spontaniously re appeared every 6 months for maybe 3 years on my fingers. I felt for along time like I would die and couldnt work. Itching was a nightmare. Then I didnt know poison ivy grew as a vine, I was clearing land and soaked in the poison and in the smoke as we burnt it. That day ruined the rest of my summer. I wonder what the Indians did. I could imagine it being used to torture people, by being tied into a patch for a few days. So any 3 leaf plant scares me, but I pulled some the other day by mistake and just used a bar of soap amd water and im fine. Ouch! It's strange stuff; two of my kids get it bad (although not that bad), the other could roll around in the stuff and not have any problem. Me, I can run my hands through it and expect four or five little bumps a few days later, but that's it. I've heard that "immunity" (or the opposite) can come and go in people, too. That Zanfel stuff works great for treating it on anyone I've known who gets it bad, but it's insanely expensive :-( It's all over in the woodland around our property, so no chance of ever completely getting rid of it. cheers Jules |
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