Couch Problem
 

My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

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mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

Possibly depending, but...just guessing it could easily be the price of
a new, better-suited couch and less satisfactory.

The general need is for things to not be as low for older folks as is ok
for younger.

--

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On Jun 20, 7:15*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

Quite often these couches are fitted with "zig zag" springs to support
the cushions nailed to the internal wooden frame. They often come
loose. Turn the thing upside down and take off the fabric covering
the bottom & you will see these springs (if any) and you can determine
if they are loose. They are a bugger to refix though.
Sometimes it's rubber straps instead of springs BTW. They are even
worse to refix.

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On 6/20/2010 2:15 PM, mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?



My last experience with upholsterers convinced me that the next time,
I'll buy new for less.

Is there any way you might be able to set the couch on 4X4s or even 6X6s
without it looking really strange? You could probably build a frame
quick and dirty, then staple some material or carpet to it to conceal it.



Jay

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mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

50 years ago, such rebuild work was routine. You can still get it done,
if you can find somebody. Prepare to be shocked by the price, however.
It is artisan work. You are likely to spend as much as on a new cheap
couch. Are the cushions foam/batting only, or do they have springs in
them as well? (Some high-line couches basically had little mattresses
for the seat cushions.) I'd have the repair place look at the cushions
as well, and clean the whole thing while they are at it. (Even in a
non-smoking house, couches are still a magnet for dust and cooking fumes.)

All of the above is shop work, by the way. Around here, the repair
places do not pick up and deliver. So figure that into your calculations
as well, unless the company you find offers that as an optional extra.

--
aem sends...

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mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

Some upholstered furniture has webbing across the bottom that supports
the springs...if the webbing rots or tears, the springs will sag.
Looking at the underside will tell you whether this is happening. If
you remove the dust cover from the underside, you can tell what kind of
springs are in it...older furn. prob. has coil springs, newer stuff
might have zig-zag springs.

Most decent upholstered furniture can have springs replaced, but it
would probably be almost as costly as purchasing something new. I can
think of two things that might solve the problem a bit more
simply...first would be to get a piece of plywood cut that can be placed
under the cushions, resting on the frame. Second would be to replace
the stuffing of the cushions with firm foam.

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"mcp6453" wrote

My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

Leave this one alone or ask a question. I have a sofa just like this. It's
also the only spot I can *sleep* with no pain. Your inlaws would not
automatically mention that it needs to be just as it is because 'x' has
(insert back or hip issues) that make it perfect. It may be as simple as
the back or hip issues are eased when sitting in it as it is and the
discomfort of rising is acceptable because it fits so well when seated. If
either fits, your interference will be understood if gently mentioned as in
'would you like' and not at ALL appreciated if 'assumed they want a swap
when they do NOT.

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"mcp6453" wrote in message
...
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is broken
or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost some of
their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat cushions
are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa is
not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

There are still some upholstery shops that can fix things like that. One
thing you can try as a temporary measure it to put a piece of plywood under
the cushions. I did that on a sofa that sagged on us. My long term
solution was to buy a better quality piece though.

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Jay Hanig wrote:
On 6/20/2010 2:15 PM, mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into
it when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have
lost some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting
the seat cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get
the springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture
repair person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the
springs? The sofa is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?



My last experience with upholsterers convinced me that the next time,
I'll buy new for less.

Is there any way you might be able to set the couch on 4X4s or even
6X6s without it looking really strange? You could probably build a
frame quick and dirty, then staple some material or carpet to it to
conceal it.

Second that. Older folks, myself included, find arising from ordinary
furniture more of a chore than when younger.

Simply adding four inches to the furniture's height is all that's needed to
make it adequate.

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HeyBub wrote:
Jay Hanig wrote:
On 6/20/2010 2:15 PM, mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into
it when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have
lost some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting
the seat cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get
the springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture
repair person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the
springs? The sofa is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?


My last experience with upholsterers convinced me that the next time,
I'll buy new for less.

Is there any way you might be able to set the couch on 4X4s or even
6X6s without it looking really strange? You could probably build a
frame quick and dirty, then staple some material or carpet to it to
conceal it.

Second that. Older folks, myself included, find arising from ordinary
furniture more of a chore than when younger.

Simply adding four inches to the furniture's height is all that's needed to
make it adequate.


The level of the cushions is one issue, but if the springs allow one to
sink in too far, it is another issue. The cushions at the proper level
might be fine, but the springs making the person sitting sink in too
far. Cushions may be at right level but if too soft, require more
effort to stand up.

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I had some friends who put the couch on 4 x 4, and it was much easier
to get in and out.

Might also be able to brace some plywood under the cushions. Screwed
to the couch, or make a platform from the floor.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Jay Hanig" wrote in message
...
On 6/20/2010 2:15 PM, mcp6453 wrote:


Is there any way you might be able to set the couch on 4X4s or even
6X6s
without it looking really strange? You could probably build a frame
quick and dirty, then staple some material or carpet to it to conceal
it.



Jay

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I'll add my voice to those saying plywood and firm cushions. Most sofas are
far softer than most people have any need for -- it's sort of a contest for
who can provide the most travel in the springs and cushions regardless of
whether it's useful. My favorite sofas are made to begin with using solid
foam cushions over wood slats or solid wood. My butt provides ample
additional padding if needed.

Edward
--
Art Works by Melynda Reid: http://paleo.org

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:15:31 -0400, mcp6453 wrote:

My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit.

Lift the sofa cushions. Some thin plywood (3/8) under the cushion
will give support if affixed properly.

An upholstery will cost you some dollars, even if you change the couch
springs.

Springs stretch. I sat once on a unit, the person, when I mentioned
broken springs, said .... but it "looks good"!

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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I had some friends who put the couch on 4 x 4, and it was much easier
to get in and out.

Might also be able to brace some plywood under the cushions. Screwed
to the couch, or make a platform from the floor.

OR buy some longer legs.

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In news:ZouTn.2$k15.1@hurricane,
dadiOH spewed forth:
mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into
it when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have
lost some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting
the seat cushions are worn.

Springs break. Springs come loose. That's about all that can happen
to them.

The only springs I have ever seen break are no-sags(sinuous wire) and old
copper coils used in antiques.


If the couch was made in the last 50 years or so and is not super
high end the springs are most likely zigger wire ("no sag"). They
attach to clips at the front and back of the frame, the clips can
come loose. They can be fixed but not without taking the upholstery
loose. Those springs are attached so there is a camber.

There are clips made that allow you to repair no-sags from the bottom


The other method is coil springs on a web foundation. The webbing is
usually jute, jute can rot. The individual springs are tied one to
another so they work in unison. The tying can break. Both those can
be fixed as well, should be able to do so from the bottom after
removing the cambric. I doubt they have coil springs though.

I'd like to see someone retie coil springs from the bottom.
It can't be done properly, if at all


______________

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

Easy fix - one I used to do frequently when photographing families at
home - is to put pieces of plywood under the cushions. For them, I
would suggest 1/2 or 3/4. The couch won't be all squishy soft
(better, IMO) but will still be comfortable and they won't sink in
much.

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In ,
Jay Hanig spewed forth:
On 6/20/2010 2:15 PM, mcp6453 wrote:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into
it when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have
lost some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting
the seat cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get
the springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture
repair person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the
springs? The sofa is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?



My last experience with upholsterers convinced me that the next time,
I'll buy new for less.

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth reupholstering.
Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay for"


Is there any way you might be able to set the couch on 4X4s or even
6X6s without it looking really strange? You could probably build a
frame quick and dirty, then staple some material or carpet to it to
conceal it.


Jay

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In ,
mcp6453 spewed forth:
My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have
lost some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting
the seat cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get
the springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture
repair person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs?
The sofa is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?

The springs probably need to be retied, which cannot be done properly
without recovering the sofa.
That is if it is coil springs and not no-sags(zig zag), I doubt seriously
that the springs need to be replaced.
I've never seen a coil spring wear out, unless it was improperly installed
and actually broke.
As others have suggested your first bet is to try a piece of plywood over
the deck under the cushions and raise the base.
Secondly, I would try a firmer core in the cushions.
If it's a quality piece, it would be worth it to fix it.

Couch Problem
 

Thanks for the excellent comments and suggestions everyone. We are going
to try our luck at getting them to replace the couch. It will be an
uphill battle, so if that doesn't pan out, we'll try the plywood.


On 6/20/2010 9:49 PM, ChairMan wrote:
In ,

The springs probably need to be retied, which cannot be done properly
without recovering the sofa.
That is if it is coil springs and not no-sags(zig zag), I doubt seriously
that the springs need to be replaced.
I've never seen a coil spring wear out, unless it was improperly installed
and actually broke.
As others have suggested your first bet is to try a piece of plywood over
the deck under the cushions and raise the base.
Secondly, I would try a firmer core in the cushions.
If it's a quality piece, it would be worth it to fix it.

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"mcp6453" wrote

Thanks for the excellent comments and suggestions everyone. We are going
to try our luck at getting them to replace the couch. It will be an uphill
battle, so if that doesn't pan out, we'll try the plywood.

MCP, I'm serious. Ask them *why* they do not want to replace it first.

I'd be really royally ****ed if some well meaning relative came in and
insisted on putting plywood on mine so it no longer dipped just right for my
back needs. In fact I'd stop them unless they snuck in and did it 'as a
suprise favor' in which case I'd be changing all locks then praying we could
fix it back.

If the only reason they havent adapted it is financial solvency, they may
appreciate your help. If it's some other reason, you tred dangerous ground
if you do not ask them 'why'.

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In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth reupholstering.
Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay for"

Nonsense. There is a lot of junk furniture around, just like junk tools
and junk appliances. There is also a lot of high quality stuff around.

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In ,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth reupholstering.
Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay for"

Nonsense. There is a lot of junk furniture around, just like junk
tools and junk appliances. There is also a lot of high quality stuff
around.

???
I thought that's what I just said " You get what you pay for"
95% is junk, the other 5% you pay for and is mostly worth it, some not and
your just paying for a name

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In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

In ,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth reupholstering.
Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay for"

Nonsense. There is a lot of junk furniture around, just like junk
tools and junk appliances. There is also a lot of high quality stuff
around.

???
I thought that's what I just said " You get what you pay for"
95% is junk, the other 5% you pay for and is mostly worth it, some not and
your just paying for a name

Thanks for clarifying. Apparently I misunderstood your statement "new is
complete junk."

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:15:31 -0400, mcp6453 wrote:

My elderly in-laws have a couch that allows you to sink deeply into it
when you sit. Because of their physical infirmities, standing is
difficult. The frame of the couch is in tact. None of the frame is
broken or drooping. The cushions look fine, but I'm sure they have lost
some of their support. My theory is that the springs supporting the seat
cushions are worn.

Assuming that my theory is correct, does it make sense to try to get the
springs replaced? Is there a snowball's chance that a furniture repair
person or an upholsterer would be able to replace the springs? The sofa
is not a sleeper version. It's just a sofa.

The couch is in great condition otherwise, and the in-laws are not
amenable to buying new furniture. Any thoughts?


I have never owned a couch, I use chairs (not sure why folks buy
couches--makes no sense at all in MY home). If the springs are worn
its my guess the fabric is very worn too. Inspect the couch
carefully for damage in the frame and springs. You can cut a 1/8" ply
or particle board to fit under the cushions for support. Also,
consider raising the entire couch 2" by adding block feet under the
existing legs. You may consider adding a fifth leg to support the
center of the seating area, especially if the couch is long or deep. A
slightly higher seat may make it easier for elderly or handicapped.

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On Jun 20, 10:10*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
Thanks for the excellent comments and suggestions everyone. We are going
to try our luck at getting them to replace the couch. It will be an
uphill battle, so if that doesn't pan out, we'll try the plywood.

On 6/20/2010 9:49 PM, ChairMan wrote:



,

The springs probably need to be retied, which cannot be done properly
without recovering the sofa.
That is if it is coil springs and not no-sags(zig zag), I doubt seriously
that the springs need to be replaced.
I've never seen a coil spring wear out, unless it was improperly installed
and actually broke.
As others have suggested your first bet is to try a piece of plywood over
the deck under the cushions and raise the base.
Secondly, I would try a firmer core in the cushions.
If it's a quality piece, it would be worth it to fix it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

They make spacers that allow you to raise furniture and beds. I put
some under our family room couch last time I had a back flare up. It
helped.

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On Jun 23, 12:32*pm, Phisherman wrote:

I have never owned a couch, I use chairs (not sure why folks buy
couches--makes no sense at all in MY home). *

So we can snuggle while we're watching TV. (Or while he's
watching TV and I'm reading.)

Cindy Hamilton

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In ,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

In
,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth
reupholstering. Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay
for"

Nonsense. There is a lot of junk furniture around, just like junk
tools and junk appliances. There is also a lot of high quality stuff
around.

???
I thought that's what I just said " You get what you pay for"
95% is junk, the other 5% you pay for and is mostly worth it, some
not and your just paying for a name

Thanks for clarifying. Apparently I misunderstood your statement "new
is complete junk."

for the most part it is, Roomstore, Rooms to go, Ashleys are complete junk
Ethan Allen, Bassett, Thomasville even Baker and Henredon are no where near
what they use to be.
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some of the
custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents did.
It's all disposible to this generation

Couch Problem
 

ChairMan wrote:
In ,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

In
,
Smitty Two spewed forth:
In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

New is complete junk, is disposable and is not worth
reupholstering. Like the old saying goes, " You get what you pay
for"
Nonsense. There is a lot of junk furniture around, just like junk
tools and junk appliances. There is also a lot of high quality stuff
around.
???
I thought that's what I just said " You get what you pay for"
95% is junk, the other 5% you pay for and is mostly worth it, some
not and your just paying for a name
Thanks for clarifying. Apparently I misunderstood your statement "new
is complete junk."

for the most part it is, Roomstore, Rooms to go, Ashleys are complete junk
Ethan Allen, Bassett, Thomasville even Baker and Henredon are no where near
what they use to be.
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some of the
custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents did.
It's all disposible to this generation


Forget the chains- go to the small ma'n'pa dealers for brands you never
heard of, that still have some quality. There is an 'Amish' furniture
store up the street here that has some gorgeous stuff that is absurdly
expensive, but would easily last a century or more. I have maybe 30
years or so left if I am lucky, so I can't justify a $2k dining room
set, even if it is quarter-sawn oak a full 5/4 thick. with a base that
would make it strong enough to hold go-go dancers. Their couches have
exposed hardwood doweled frames, with fabric parts and cushion covers
that can be redone easily- no nasty dead spaces for monsters to grow.
IOW, the frame will last forever, and is well worth several hundred for
recovering every 30 years or so. If I were to hit the lottery, I could
easily drop 20 grand in there.

I did buy a decent couch and chair (quasi-mission style) for the other
living room, just so I could have one room nice enough for company. Not
at the Amish place, but another small store with prices a little closer
to my place on the food chain. On sale, they were $1500. Everything I
looked at elsewhere was either crap, and/or the oversize overstuffed
styles aimed at drywall McMansions. In my tiny (12x21) 1960 living room,
they would have overwhelmed the entire room. Anyway, if a SWMBO were to
move in here by some miracle, those are the only 2 furniture items I
would have any chance of keeping. Anyone with taste would burn or
Goodwill the rest in short order. For some reason, women don't seem to
like plywood bookcases and office-spec credenzas and desks and such.

--
aem sends...

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jun 23, 12:32 pm, Phisherman wrote:

I have never owned a couch, I use chairs (not sure why folks buy
couches--makes no sense at all in MY home).

So we can snuggle while we're watching TV. (Or while he's
watching TV and I'm reading.)

Cindy Hamilton

Awww....

--
aem sends...

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In article ,
"ChairMan" wrote:

In ,
Smitty Two spewed forth:


Thanks for clarifying. Apparently I misunderstood your statement "new
is complete junk."

for the most part it is, Roomstore, Rooms to go, Ashleys are complete junk
Ethan Allen, Bassett, Thomasville even Baker and Henredon are no where near
what they use to be.
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some of the
custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents did.
It's all disposible to this generation

It's true you have to poke around a bit for the quality stuff, and open
the wallet a little wider. But it's still being made, and it's still
being distributed. The store we bought out living room furniture from
draws customers from several hundred miles.

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"Smitty Two" wrote
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some of the
custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents did.
It's all disposible to this generation

It's true you have to poke around a bit for the quality stuff, and open
the wallet a little wider. But it's still being made, and it's still
being distributed. The store we bought out living room furniture from
draws customers from several hundred miles.


Having been through a couple of recliners, I bought a good one about two
years ago.
http://hancockandmoore.com/
specifically
http://hancockandmoore.com/product.asp?productid=1314

We refer to it as my throne. I feel like a king relaxing in it. Good
furniture lasts decades.

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"Smitty Two" wrote
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some
of the custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents
did. It's all disposible to this generation

It's true you have to poke around a bit for the quality stuff, and
open the wallet a little wider. But it's still being made, and it's
still being distributed. The store we bought out living room
furniture from draws customers from several hundred miles.


Having been through a couple of recliners, I bought a good one about
two years ago.
http://hancockandmoore.com/
specifically
http://hancockandmoore.com/product.asp?productid=1314

We refer to it as my throne. I feel like a king relaxing in it. Good
furniture lasts decades.

yup, Hancock and Moore build a damn fine recliner.
you'll get many, many years of service from it

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Smitty Two spewed forth:
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"ChairMan" wrote:

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Smitty Two spewed forth:


Thanks for clarifying. Apparently I misunderstood your statement
"new is complete junk."

for the most part it is, Roomstore, Rooms to go, Ashleys are
complete junk Ethan Allen, Bassett, Thomasville even Baker and
Henredon are no where near what they use to be.
Hell, even Lazy boy is ****. Most all is made in China. Even some of
the custom manufacturers are cutting corners just to compete.
People no longer see furniture as the investment that our parents
did. It's all disposible to this generation

It's true you have to poke around a bit for the quality stuff, and
open the wallet a little wider. But it's still being made, and it's
still being distributed. The store we bought out living room
furniture from draws customers from several hundred miles.

yes it is, but it is few and far between.
I know because I've been building it for 32 years