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Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to
my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. |
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On Jun 2, 3:39*pm, Jim wrote:
Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. *So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. *Not too big, not too small.. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. *Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. *An on/off timer. *Sometimes called an alarm timer. * Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. *Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. *The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. *So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? *Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? *If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. Have you heard of Google? 22": http://salestores.com/toshiba22av6.html 34" http://salestores.com/sonykvhr.html I'm sure I could fine more.... |
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"Jim" wrote in message
... I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. All Sony and JVC TVs over 15" diag. used to have this feature, and probably still do. It does not take long to ask. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:00:15 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. All Sony and JVC TVs over 15" diag. used to have this feature, and probably still do. It does not take long to ask. You likely have better informed sales people near you. The ones near me thought a sleep timer was the same thing. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. I've never had a TV which didn't have a timer. The two most recent LCD TVs I currently bought also have timers. When visiting the electronics/TV retailer, play with the features on the displayed TVs and/or search the menu option. I'm willing to bet you'll find a timer. |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:00:35 -0400, SBH wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. I've never had a TV which didn't have a timer. The two most recent LCD TVs I currently bought also have timers. When visiting the electronics/TV retailer, play with the features on the displayed TVs and/or search the menu option. I'm willing to bet you'll find a timer. Just returned from PC Richards, a local electronics retailer, and did just that. Once again the salesman started by saying they all have it. Took three reminders that I specified a on/off timer not the sleep timer he was thinking of. Did find a couple Samsung models to compare against. So the trip wasn't a total waste. |
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On 02 Jun 2010 19:39:50 GMT, Jim wrote:
Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. I have a 20 year old tv that has that feature. I would think it would be even more common now. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. Some stores used to have the manuals themselves under the tv. Less likely to be stolen than a remote. But go to a better store. A family owned tv and appliance store, and ask there. I'm told their prices are often no higher anyhow, and you get better service. Do the tv's really not have a menu button ON the tv? The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. Some features are so small or common they're not mentioned, but the features also might not be there. Get the manual online. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. |
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Mission accomplished. While out searching for a TV I instead learned of
a MONITOR that has a built in digital tuner. And of course the desired on/off timer function. |
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Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching
a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jim" wrote in message ... Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. |
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Jim wrote:
Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. Nobody stocks anything now a days. You have to order everything on the internet. -- LSMFT I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her. |
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On 6/3/2010 2:24 AM, mm wrote:
On 02 Jun 2010 19:39:50 GMT, wrote: Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. I have a 20 year old tv that has that feature. I would think it would be even more common now. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. Some stores used to have the manuals themselves under the tv. Less likely to be stolen than a remote. But go to a better store. A family owned tv and appliance store, and ask there. I'm told their prices are often no higher anyhow, and you get better service. Unfortunately big box has everyone trained to think they are experts. There is a large family owned appliance/electronics store nearby and both the owners son and one of the employees are really knowledgeable. And unlike the big box place where they bring the sales people into the back room each morning and tell them what items they should push to get a $3 commission they give you honest and helpful answers because they are there for the long stretch. And as you noted the prices are competitive because they belong to a buying co-op. Do the tv's really not have a menu button ON the tv? The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. Some features are so small or common they're not mentioned, but the features also might not be there. Get the manual online. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. |
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Jim wrote:
Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. I was looking for a window air conditioner that is also a heat pump heater. I could leave it in the window longer for that touch of heat needed when it's a little cool in the spring and fall. Does Walmart have one? No way. They have dozens but no heating air conditioners. Don't expect anything that is not a main line mover to be stocked. -- LSMFT I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her. |
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On Jun 3, 7:58*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Jim" wrote in message ... Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. *So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. *Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. *Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. *An on/off timer. *Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. *Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. *The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. *So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? *Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? *If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. Well, it's not "too big" compared to a 60" TV. However, too big or too small has more to do with the viewing range than the actual physical size of the unit. A 60" screen is "too big" for your average bedroom but "too small" for your average football stadium. When choosing an HD TV, the size should be based on how far from the unit you will normally be while viewing it. Too big/too close means reduced quality. Too small/too far means eye strain. Too big/too close is far worse than too small/too far. Why spend big bucks on a 55" screen just because it fits on a wall only to be stuck with deminished quality because your bed is too close? Use a calculator like this to help determine the right size: http://hdinstallers.com/calculator.htm |
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Jim wrote: Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. The LG 26LE5300 I got the other day does indeed have a programmable on / off timer function including source and channel selection. |
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On Jun 3, 8:15*am, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. Guess you should know....right HD Boi? |
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On Jun 3, 7:58*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. This isn't 1960 Also, if you have to watch the TV in a 4:3 mode the picture is a lot smaller. But of course a lot of people don't mind using the "stretch" mode and watching a distorted picture. |
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On Jun 3, 4:28*pm, Jeff The Drunk wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:06:28 -0700, Ron wrote: On Jun 3, 7:58*am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. This isn't 1960 Also, if you have to watch the TV in a 4:3 mode the picture is a lot smaller. But of course a lot of people don't mind using the "stretch" mode and watching a distorted picture. I watch 4:3 aspect on my 16:9 cropped. Give a little top and bottom away so you're not stretching much if any. I tried to get used to watching stretched out but couldn't. Kind of bothers me when I only see someone's eyeballs at the top of the screen G Zoom works great if the the program has horizontal bars, you only lose the bars then and none of the actual picture. |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... Jim wrote: Searched available groups but none seem to have a subject pertaining to my question. So here goes in this group where people have been well versed over the years. I'm searching for what I call a bedroom TV. Not too big, not too small. An LCD between 24" and 32" perhaps. Trouble is I'm looking for a specific feature. An on/off timer. Sometimes called an alarm timer. Unlike regular sleep timers these turn on the set. Makes a nice alternative to alarm clocks. Going to both Walmart and Best Buy I discovered they don't have any remotes available. The data cards don't mention it nor do the shipping boxes. So no way to check the on screen menus. Perhaps someone here is in retail electronics? Or maybe someone has purchased a new set fairly recently? If so I would really appreciate knowing available makes/models to look for. The LG 26LE5300 I got the other day does indeed have a programmable on / off timer function including source and channel selection. An inelegant solution would be to plug the tv into a a timer outlet and just set the timer for whatever you want. Those timer outlets are also useful for having timed lights while on vacation. |
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On Jun 3, 4:57*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15*am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. Guess you should know....right HD Boi? So, are you saying that the picture on a 16:9 wide screen is taller than the picture on a 4:3 19 inch TV? I'd say that makes you a self professed idiot once again Mo-Ron Did I say that? How many ****ing screen names do you have Mr 720p Isn't HD? Now THAT was a moronic comment! |
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On Jun 3, 5:00*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:43:42 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote: On Jun 3, 4:28 pm, Jeff The Drunk wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:06:28 -0700, Ron wrote: On Jun 3, 7:58 am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. This isn't 1960 Also, if you have to watch the TV in a 4:3 mode the picture is a lot smaller. But of course a lot of people don't mind using the "stretch" mode and watching a distorted picture. I watch 4:3 aspect on my 16:9 cropped. Give a little top and bottom away so you're not stretching much if any. I tried to get used to watching stretched out but couldn't. Kind of bothers me when I only see someone's eyeballs at the top of the screen G Zoom works great if the the program has horizontal bars, you only lose the bars then and none of the actual picture. Hoo Boy! Now THAT is some awesome high def you're watching there, Mo-Ron! Almost like 3-D, even!!! Bwhahahahaha! I've already schooled you once on HD, I won't take up space in this group doing it again, Salty, err, yetanothermickey, err, Rob Budd. What a ****ing clown you are. |
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"h" wrote:
-snip- An inelegant solution would be to plug the tv into a a timer outlet and just set the timer for whatever you want. Also not likely to work. When you cut power to any of the last 1/2 dozen TVs I've owned, they turn themselves off. Jim |
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Robert Green wrote:
(Amusing rant snipped) heh. Reminds me of my confusion when I came home and found my youngest two PCs on, and I knew I had left them off. There had been a power blip, because some of the clocks were blinking 1200. This happened 2-3 times (thunderstorm season in a semi-rural area), before the penny dropped and I looked in the BIOS on the PCs, and found a setting where one could choose to auto-boot after a power loss. Guess it is part of ATX standard for some reason- mebbe for non-attended operations. But the BIOS let me disable it, so no more ghosts. -- aem sends.... |
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On 6/4/2010 8:19 PM, aemeijers wrote:
N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15 am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate I feel your pain. I have about 6 or 7 perfectly good 17" CRT monitors sitting in corners around here that I can't GIVE away. (Mostly Trinitron- damn things Will Not Die.) I'm too much of a cheap SOB to send working equipment to be demanufactured, and my long-dead EE grandfather would haunt me if I did. All leftovers from a brief period when it was possible to make a few bucks on the side buying used commercial PCs in bulk, cleaning them up, and reselling them at half the price of a new one. Moore's law bit me in the ass, and I am stuck with a couple hundred bucks (my cost) of working PIII PCs that are essentially worthless. One of these days I'll throw Ubuntu on the lot of them, and put them on Freecycle, just to get rid of them. (Perfectly competent e-mail terminals for people that can't get their kids off the 'real' PC for five minutes.) Have you ever tried to Linux the boxes and post them on Craigslist? TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 6/4/2010 8:19 PM, aemeijers wrote: N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15 am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate I feel your pain. I have about 6 or 7 perfectly good 17" CRT monitors sitting in corners around here that I can't GIVE away. (Mostly Trinitron- damn things Will Not Die.) I'm too much of a cheap SOB to send working equipment to be demanufactured, and my long-dead EE grandfather would haunt me if I did. All leftovers from a brief period when it was possible to make a few bucks on the side buying used commercial PCs in bulk, cleaning them up, and reselling them at half the price of a new one. Moore's law bit me in the ass, and I am stuck with a couple hundred bucks (my cost) of working PIII PCs that are essentially worthless. One of these days I'll throw Ubuntu on the lot of them, and put them on Freecycle, just to get rid of them. (Perfectly competent e-mail terminals for people that can't get their kids off the 'real' PC for five minutes.) Have you ever tried to Linux the boxes and post them on Craigslist? TDD That is almost what I said- Ubuntu being a flavor of Linux, and Freecycle being rather like CL, just with lowered expectations. (IOW, getting it gone is more important than getting money.) I suppose I should try CL first, and maybe the swap board at work as well. At this point, I'd GIVE them to a good home, or only charge what they are worth to me for parts. (Hey, an optical burner is worth something...) Gotta keep the one with a 5.25 floppy drive in it, though- still got a file drawer full of those, most of which are probably still readable. I really need a SWMBO to nag my sorry ass into actually finishing any of the projects I start- it has gotten rather out of control. I'd need to at least clean up the front room enough to not scare strangers before I place the CL ads, so they don't run in terror when I open the door. -- aem sends... |
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On 6/4/2010 10:21 PM, aemeijers wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: On 6/4/2010 8:19 PM, aemeijers wrote: N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15 am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate I feel your pain. I have about 6 or 7 perfectly good 17" CRT monitors sitting in corners around here that I can't GIVE away. (Mostly Trinitron- damn things Will Not Die.) I'm too much of a cheap SOB to send working equipment to be demanufactured, and my long-dead EE grandfather would haunt me if I did. All leftovers from a brief period when it was possible to make a few bucks on the side buying used commercial PCs in bulk, cleaning them up, and reselling them at half the price of a new one. Moore's law bit me in the ass, and I am stuck with a couple hundred bucks (my cost) of working PIII PCs that are essentially worthless. One of these days I'll throw Ubuntu on the lot of them, and put them on Freecycle, just to get rid of them. (Perfectly competent e-mail terminals for people that can't get their kids off the 'real' PC for five minutes.) Have you ever tried to Linux the boxes and post them on Craigslist? TDD That is almost what I said- Ubuntu being a flavor of Linux, and Freecycle being rather like CL, just with lowered expectations. (IOW, getting it gone is more important than getting money.) I suppose I should try CL first, and maybe the swap board at work as well. At this point, I'd GIVE them to a good home, or only charge what they are worth to me for parts. (Hey, an optical burner is worth something...) Gotta keep the one with a 5.25 floppy drive in it, though- still got a file drawer full of those, most of which are probably still readable. I really need a SWMBO to nag my sorry ass into actually finishing any of the projects I start- it has gotten rather out of control. I'd need to at least clean up the front room enough to not scare strangers before I place the CL ads, so they don't run in terror when I open the door. I have a lot of older computer gear that I hang on to because, believe it or not, I have some customers who are still running DOS and certain software simply because it works. The newfangled super fast motherboards and CPU's are not compatible. People think I'm crazy for rescuing old computers from the trash heap. TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
(snip) I have a lot of older computer gear that I hang on to because, believe it or not, I have some customers who are still running DOS and certain software simply because it works. The newfangled super fast motherboards and CPU's are not compatible. People think I'm crazy for rescuing old computers from the trash heap. TDD Oh, I believe it. I keep an old slow Dell laptop chained under my desk at work, that boots up in dos 6.22, and still has a 9-pin serial port. The software I use to program the decade-old walkie-talkies that our contractor staff uses, will not run under windows (even in a dos box), or on a USB to serial adapter for the PC to radio interface box. They used to try to keep replacing it on me, but I think it finally fell off the inventory records. As long as we use those vintage radios (Motorola HT1000), I need that relic of a PC, even if it only gets booted up 2-3 times a year. Those Motorolas are not dying anytime soon- these are from before M. off-shored all their production, and are built to mil-spec standards for outside use. Living inside an office building all day is easy duty for them. I'll be retired before those radios are. (The kid contractors keep asking for PTT cell phones to replace them, and I keep telling them Not On My Watch- we OWN the radios and the repeater on the roof, and I'm not gonna ask the taxpayers to start paying $40? a month per user, for something that doesn't work as well. We have about 100 of the radios, so it would be a hell of a cell phone bill.) -- aem sends... |
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-snip- I really need a SWMBO to nag my sorry ass into actually finishing any of the projects I start- it has gotten rather out of control. Don't put too much hope into that. After the honeymoon is over you end up with 2 sets of projects that need finishing.g Jim |
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Robert Green wrote: (Amusing rant snipped) heh. Reminds me of my confusion when I came home and found my youngest two PCs on, and I knew I had left them off. There had been a power blip, because some of the clocks were blinking 1200. This happened 2-3 times (thunderstorm season in a semi-rural area), before the penny dropped and I looked in the BIOS on the PCs, and found a setting where one could choose to auto-boot after a power loss. Guess it is part of ATX standard for some reason- mebbe for non-attended operations. But the BIOS let me disable it, so no more ghosts. We came home once to find our dining room light on, and were sure we had turned it off. Since we had a problem neighbor at the time, I decided to call police just to make a record of it. One cop told me the cat probably turned it on ) Crime stats are probably very artificially low where I live...good politics for police chiefs, mayors, realtors... |
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On 6/3/2010 8:14 PM, cubby wrote:
... tell them what items they should push to get a $3 commission 0 Curious to know which big box electronics store you are referring to that remunerates its staff thus? Presumably this is pure (and probably false) conjecture on your part. Or not. Two young relatives of mine and at least two more children of friends all reported the same thing when they worked there after college until they got real jobs. They pump them up at the beginning of the shift by telling them what particular items have spiffs and how much it was. If you know better why did you challenge me? |
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We came home once to find our dining room light on, and were sure we had turned it off. You live in the state made famous by Dave Barry and the "Tomato that Dialed 911." Apparently a tomato, rotting on a window ledge, began oozing acidic tomato juice onto the phone below. Naturally, the goo shorted out the 911 speed dial key and the phone dialed 911 but no one answered the operator's questions so they assumed the worst, send the police to break into the house with their guns drawn to get the drop on the killer tomato. - Bobby G. |
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On 6/5/2010 3:37 AM, aemeijers wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: (snip) I have a lot of older computer gear that I hang on to because, believe it or not, I have some customers who are still running DOS and certain software simply because it works. The newfangled super fast motherboards and CPU's are not compatible. People think I'm crazy for rescuing old computers from the trash heap. TDD Oh, I believe it. I keep an old slow Dell laptop chained under my desk at work, that boots up in dos 6.22, and still has a 9-pin serial port. The software I use to program the decade-old walkie-talkies that our contractor staff uses, will not run under windows (even in a dos box), or on a USB to serial adapter for the PC to radio interface box. They used to try to keep replacing it on me, but I think it finally fell off the inventory records. As long as we use those vintage radios (Motorola HT1000), I need that relic of a PC, even if it only gets booted up 2-3 times a year. Those Motorolas are not dying anytime soon- these are from before M. off-shored all their production, and are built to mil-spec standards for outside use. Living inside an office building all day is easy duty for them. I'll be retired before those radios are. (The kid contractors keep asking for PTT cell phones to replace them, and I keep telling them Not On My Watch- we OWN the radios and the repeater on the roof, and I'm not gonna ask the taxpayers to start paying $40? a month per user, for something that doesn't work as well. We have about 100 of the radios, so it would be a hell of a cell phone bill.) I have a Dell C600 laptop that has a serial port and I use it to program anything with a serial interface because some equipment will only work with a (true) serial port. Those HT1000 radios are newer than the radios I took care of for the contractor I worked for at the Kwajalein Missile Range back in the late 80's. Those units were just as tough and were also software programmable. Do you remember the old Motorola "brick" cellphones? Those things were built like tanks too and you could run over one of them with a truck and not break it. TDD |
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On 06/05/2010 01:15 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 6/5/2010 3:37 AM, aemeijers wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: (snip) I have a lot of older computer gear that I hang on to because, believe it or not, I have some customers who are still running DOS and certain software simply because it works. The newfangled super fast motherboards and CPU's are not compatible. People think I'm crazy for rescuing old computers from the trash heap. TDD Oh, I believe it. I keep an old slow Dell laptop chained under my desk at work, that boots up in dos 6.22, and still has a 9-pin serial port. The software I use to program the decade-old walkie-talkies that our contractor staff uses, will not run under windows (even in a dos box), or on a USB to serial adapter for the PC to radio interface box. They used to try to keep replacing it on me, but I think it finally fell off the inventory records. As long as we use those vintage radios (Motorola HT1000), I need that relic of a PC, even if it only gets booted up 2-3 times a year. Those Motorolas are not dying anytime soon- these are from before M. off-shored all their production, and are built to mil-spec standards for outside use. Living inside an office building all day is easy duty for them. I'll be retired before those radios are. (The kid contractors keep asking for PTT cell phones to replace them, and I keep telling them Not On My Watch- we OWN the radios and the repeater on the roof, and I'm not gonna ask the taxpayers to start paying $40? a month per user, for something that doesn't work as well. We have about 100 of the radios, so it would be a hell of a cell phone bill.) I have a Dell C600 laptop that has a serial port and I use it to program anything with a serial interface because some equipment will only work with a (true) serial port. Those HT1000 radios are newer than the radios I took care of for the contractor I worked for at the Kwajalein Missile Range back in the late 80's. Those units were just as tough and were also software programmable. Do you remember the old Motorola "brick" cellphones? Those things were built like tanks too and you could run over one of them with a truck and not break it. TDD I used to have some computers like that at my last job. Hopefully the people still there recognized their necessity for maintaining vintage systems and did not ****can them. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:21:06 -0400, aemeijers wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: On 6/4/2010 8:19 PM, aemeijers wrote: N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15 am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate I feel your pain. I have about 6 or 7 perfectly good 17" CRT monitors sitting in corners around here that I can't GIVE away. (Mostly Trinitron- damn things Will Not Die.) I'm too much of a cheap SOB to send working equipment to be demanufactured, and my long-dead EE grandfather would haunt me if I did. All leftovers from a brief period when it was possible to make a few bucks on the side buying used commercial PCs in bulk, cleaning them up, and reselling them at half the price of a new one. Moore's law bit me in the ass, and I am stuck with a couple hundred bucks (my cost) of working PIII PCs that are essentially worthless. One of these days I'll throw Ubuntu on the lot of them, and put them on Freecycle, just to get rid of them. (Perfectly competent e-mail terminals for people that can't get their kids off the 'real' PC for five minutes.) Have you ever tried to Linux the boxes and post them on Craigslist? TDD That is almost what I said- Ubuntu being a flavor of Linux, and Freecycle being rather like CL, just with lowered expectations. (IOW, getting it gone is more important than getting money.) I suppose I should try CL first, and maybe the swap board at work as well. At this point, I'd GIVE them to a good home, or only charge what they are worth to me for parts. (Hey, an optical burner is worth something...) Gotta keep the one with a 5.25 floppy drive in it, though- still got a file drawer full of those, most of which are probably still readable. I really need a SWMBO to nag my sorry ass into actually finishing any of the projects I start- it has gotten rather out of control. All you need to do is move. It's a lot cheaper than a SWMBO and they'll make you do it anyway. I'd need to at least clean up the front room enough to not scare strangers before I place the CL ads, so they don't run in terror when I open the door. |
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On Jun 4, 10:28*am, wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:54:52 -0700 (PDT), N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15*am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. *I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. *It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate The vertical height is what is most important, as that determines how tall people will be in the movie you are watching... Widescreen 16:9 ratio 24" *= 20.92" wide 11.76" tall 22" *= 19.17" *10.78" 19" *= 16.56" *9.32" Standard 4:3 ratio 20" *= 16.00" *12.00" 19" *= 15.2" *11.4" 17" *= 13.6" *10.2" You left out letterbox on a 4:3, which makes the vertical height height even smaller, but can also increased on a 16:9 with the zoom feature. http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi And what is "most important" is debatable (not with you of course), because if a movie was shot in 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 you are missing a lot of the original content if the move is "formatted to fit this screen" like a lot of VHS movies were. |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 06:42:47 -0700, N8N wrote:
I bought a 25" Samsung 1080p TV/monitor, and it has both a sleep timer and a "real" timer. Also has the best on screen guide that I've seen yet for OTA DTV. Unfortunately, I like it so much as a monitor for my PC that it ended up downstairs on my desk, not in the bedroom, and I guess I'll wait until I have $$ to buy another one to upgrade the bedroom TV. I ordered mine from Newegg. nate Might that be the P2570HD? If so we have the same unit. Also wound up getting mine at Newegg. |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:39:55 -0400, aemeijers wrote:
wrote: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:21:06 -0400, aemeijers wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote: On 6/4/2010 8:19 PM, aemeijers wrote: N8N wrote: On Jun 3, 8:15 am, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:58:35 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Since when is 24 to 32 inches "not too big"? Having grown up watching a 13 inch black and white "GE Adventurer 1", I think your sense of proportion is a bit much. Go look at a 24 inch 16:9 widescreen TV and see what you think. It's not very big at all compared to a 4:3 ratio 19 inch TV. It's wider, but a LOT shorter vertically. And an LCD is very thin and light; almost feels like a toy compared to the TVs of yore. I guess an equivalent size would be a 19" or 21" CRT and I remember those not being particularly light. I still have an excellent Samsung CRT monitor that I bought new back in the mid-late 90s. It'll probably stay in my garage until I clean up and recycle it nate I feel your pain. I have about 6 or 7 perfectly good 17" CRT monitors sitting in corners around here that I can't GIVE away. (Mostly Trinitron- damn things Will Not Die.) I'm too much of a cheap SOB to send working equipment to be demanufactured, and my long-dead EE grandfather would haunt me if I did. All leftovers from a brief period when it was possible to make a few bucks on the side buying used commercial PCs in bulk, cleaning them up, and reselling them at half the price of a new one. Moore's law bit me in the ass, and I am stuck with a couple hundred bucks (my cost) of working PIII PCs that are essentially worthless. One of these days I'll throw Ubuntu on the lot of them, and put them on Freecycle, just to get rid of them. (Perfectly competent e-mail terminals for people that can't get their kids off the 'real' PC for five minutes.) Have you ever tried to Linux the boxes and post them on Craigslist? TDD That is almost what I said- Ubuntu being a flavor of Linux, and Freecycle being rather like CL, just with lowered expectations. (IOW, getting it gone is more important than getting money.) I suppose I should try CL first, and maybe the swap board at work as well. At this point, I'd GIVE them to a good home, or only charge what they are worth to me for parts. (Hey, an optical burner is worth something...) Gotta keep the one with a 5.25 floppy drive in it, though- still got a file drawer full of those, most of which are probably still readable. I really need a SWMBO to nag my sorry ass into actually finishing any of the projects I start- it has gotten rather out of control. All you need to do is move. It's a lot cheaper than a SWMBO and they'll make you do it anyway. Nope. I still have crates from 2 moves ago that haven't been opened. I have a couple, but most will be opened as soon as I can get a shop put together. Others are permanent storage, but most got dumped in the last couple of moves (two 30yd roll-offs). Some of them are the parts from my former freelance used-PC endeavors. Not to mention the crates full of paperbacks that I will never read again, that nobody else on earth wants, that I still can't bear to recycle. We give paperbacks to the local library for their annual sale (a write-off, too). Not sure what SWMBO does with the hard covers. |
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