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I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not
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I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. |
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" wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. Yeah, we used to crank out the brass weights for lab scales, er, balances, by the thousands on the old Brown and Sharpe screw machines. We sprayed them with spray cans of polyurethane. |
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On 5/31/2010 3:12 PM, Kate wrote:
I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Brass tarnishes. The reason you see shiny brass handles on doors is because someone maintains them. Maintaining polished brass outside is a continuous maintenance job. You will periodically need to strip the clear coat and polish the brass with rouge and a wheel and then give it a clear coat. |
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On May 31, 2:12*pm, Kate wrote:
I have a brass door handle. *The package insert said it would not tarnish. *I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. |
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: On 5/31/2010 12:53 PM, wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. I just used Brasso on it. It is somewhat shiny again, but apparently I rubbed an area too hard and I have a shiny area that almost looks silver underneath. Can you find a magnet? See if the magnet will stick to the handle. If it does, then the handle is actually steel with brass-plating on it. Even a fridge magnet will work for checking this. The plating is usually pretty thin and will wear off quickly once the lacquer/varnish/urethane is gone. Is this what you are talking about? Do I need to rub all of it so that the top coat is removed, and then recoat it? Yes. Provided either 1) the plating is thick enough to survive the cleaning, or 2) the handle really is solid-brass, both of which I'm doubting just now. -- Tegger |
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Kate wrote:
I just used Brasso on it. It is somewhat shiny again, but apparently I rubbed an area too hard and I have a shiny area that almost looks silver underneath. Is this what you are talking about? No. What you have is a steel door handle that's been plated with nickel then brass plated over that. Skeptical? Hold a magnet against the handle. Brass is non-magnetic (that's why compasses and stuff are made of brass). |
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Smitty Two wrote:
In article , " wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. Yeah, we used to crank out the brass weights for lab scales, er, balances, by the thousands on the old Brown and Sharpe screw machines. We sprayed them with spray cans of polyurethane. Doesn't that throw the weight off? -- aem sends... |
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On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:12:31 -0700, Kate wrote:
I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Baldwin. Other than not tarnishing I don't care for it. We bought it 25 years ago because it would unlatch a deadbolt with the inside lever. The outside is a thumb-latch & though I liked it fine 20 years ago- now my thumb is weaker & I'd prefer an outside lever. IIRC it was about $200-- but it was the only one with that perceived 'safety feature' - so momma liked it & I installed it. Jim |
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Maintaining polished brass outside is a continuous maintenance job.
Unless, of course, you get Balwin Brass. When I purchased a new home ten years ago, I replaced all the outdoor lights and front door hardware with Baldwin Brass 003 Lifetime Polished Brass Finish. It's just as shiny now as the day I installed it. About every three years or so, I wash off the dust with a glass cleaner and water, and then hand dry. The finish is always shiny gold. No polishing necessary. The 003 finish does not use a lacquer like most brass fixtures. Instead, the brass is nickel plated and then the final finish is applied in a plasma chamber for a molecular bond. Each lighting fixture was about $300 and the pair of front door hardware was about $500. Not cheap, but they will look brand new for decades, and no polishing needed. Best, Christopher |
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Unless, of course, you get Balwin Brass.
Oops, that's Baldwin Brass. |
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"ransley" wrote in message ... On May 31, 2:12 pm, Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. Like that was helpful...contact the company...The question was "Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it?" Not how to conduct yourself on the phone begging for a different one and telling them above all after owning the product for 4 years they give 30 days for the unit to be returned... sigh... so to answer the OP question... Yes I have a very good brass door handle...however, the pricy ones are called 'Stainless brass" seen here http://www.handlesbydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=33_98 ...the handles made by Gardner & Scardifield Ltd which I presently own and have not tarnished ..they are pricy but worth it... Jim |
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On 5/31/2010 4:32 PM, Tegger wrote:
wrote in : On 5/31/2010 12:53 PM, wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. I just used Brasso on it. It is somewhat shiny again, but apparently I rubbed an area too hard and I have a shiny area that almost looks silver underneath. Can you find a magnet? See if the magnet will stick to the handle. If it does, then the handle is actually steel with brass-plating on it. Even a fridge magnet will work for checking this. The plating is usually pretty thin and will wear off quickly once the lacquer/varnish/urethane is gone. Is this what you are talking about? Do I need to rub all of it so that the top coat is removed, and then recoat it? Yes. Provided either 1) the plating is thick enough to survive the cleaning, or 2) the handle really is solid-brass, both of which I'm doubting just now. The magnet will not stick to it, at all. |
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On 5/31/2010 4:38 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Kate wrote: I just used Brasso on it. It is somewhat shiny again, but apparently I rubbed an area too hard and I have a shiny area that almost looks silver underneath. Is this what you are talking about? No. What you have is a steel door handle that's been plated with nickel then brass plated over that. Skeptical? Hold a magnet against the handle. Brass is non-magnetic (that's why compasses and stuff are made of brass). The magnet won't stick to it. |
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On 5/31/2010 5:35 PM, Christopher Glaeser wrote:
Maintaining polished brass outside is a continuous maintenance job. Unless, of course, you get Balwin Brass. When I purchased a new home ten years ago, I replaced all the outdoor lights and front door hardware with Baldwin Brass 003 Lifetime Polished Brass Finish. It's just as shiny now as the day I installed it. About every three years or so, I wash off the dust with a glass cleaner and water, and then hand dry. The finish is always shiny gold. No polishing necessary. The 003 finish does not use a lacquer like most brass fixtures. Instead, the brass is nickel plated and then the final finish is applied in a plasma chamber for a molecular bond. Each lighting fixture was about $300 and the pair of front door hardware was about $500. Not cheap, but they will look brand new for decades, and no polishing needed. Best, Christopher This is good to know. Thank you! |
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On 5/31/2010 4:25 PM, ransley wrote:
On May 31, 2:12 pm, wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. Excellent idea. Now I have to search for the paper work, and I am sure I have it. Thank you! |
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On 5/31/2010 6:26 PM, Jimi wrote:
wrote in message ... On May 31, 2:12 pm, wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. Like that was helpful...contact the company...The question was "Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it?" Not how to conduct yourself on the phone begging for a different one and telling them above all after owning the product for 4 years they give 30 days for the unit to be returned... sigh... so to answer the OP question... Yes I have a very good brass door handle...however, the pricy ones are called 'Stainless brass" seen here http://www.handlesbydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=33_98 ...the handles made by Gardner& Scardifield Ltd which I presently own and have not tarnished ..they are pricy but worth it... Jim Thank you Jim, for your reply. I would love to own a doorknob that does not tarnish, so this gives me something to go on. I do have a brass door kick plate, and it has been like new since I purchased it six years ago. |
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On 5/31/2010 5:23 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:12:31 -0700, wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Baldwin. Other than not tarnishing I don't care for it. We bought it 25 years ago because it would unlatch a deadbolt with the inside lever. The outside is a thumb-latch& though I liked it fine 20 years ago- now my thumb is weaker& I'd prefer an outside lever. IIRC it was about $200-- but it was the only one with that perceived 'safety feature' - so momma liked it& I installed it. Jim Mine is a thumb latch too. Not a problem for me as I usually come in through the inside garage door when parking my car. I am getting some great tips from everyone and I appreciate it. Thanks Jim. |
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Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at
the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. What other companies besides Baldwin Brass have a non-lacquer lifetime finish? Best, Christopher |
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On May 31, 8:26*pm, "Jimi" wrote:
"ransley" wrote in message ... On May 31, 2:12 pm, Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. * Like that was helpful...contact the company...The question was "Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it?" * Not how to conduct yourself *on the phone begging for a different one and telling them above all after owning the product for 4 years they give 30 days for the unit to be returned... sigh... so to answer the OP question... Yes I have a very good brass door handle...however, the pricy ones are called 'Stainless brass" seen here http://www.handlesbydesign.co.uk/index.php?cPath=33_98* *...the handles made by Gardner & Scardifield Ltd *which I presently own and have not tarnished ..they are pricy but worth it... Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And the tag say guarnted not to tarnish, so learn to read. |
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On May 31, 10:12*pm, ransley wrote:
On May 31, 8:26*pm, "Jimi" wrote: "ransley" wrote in message .... On May 31, 2:12 pm, Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Contact the co that made it, if its the process that treats brass at the molecular level it shouldnt tarnish, ask them to send you a new one and they should give you 30 days for your unit to be returned. * Like that was helpful...contact the company...The question was "Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it?" * Not how to conduct yourself *on the phone begging for a different one and telling them above all after owning the product for 4 years they give 30 days for the unit to be returned... sigh... so to answer the OP question... Yes I have a very good brass door handle...however, the pricy ones are called 'Stainless brass" seen here http://www.handlesbydesign.co.uk/ind...=33_98**...the handles made by Gardner & Scardifield Ltd *which I presently own and have not tarnished ..they are pricy but worth it... Jim- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And the tag say guarnted not to tarnish, so learn to read.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Are you the Kate that had a bunch of questions about a month ago? If so, what did you end up doing? |
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Kate wrote:
On 5/31/2010 4:38 PM, HeyBub wrote: No. What you have is a steel door handle that's been plated with nickel then brass plated over that. Skeptical? Hold a magnet against the handle. Brass is non-magnetic (that's why compasses and stuff are made of brass). The magnet won't stick to it. Ah, okay. It's aluminum (plated with nickle then plated with brass). Or wood. |
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aemeijers wrote the following:
Smitty Two wrote: In article , " wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. Yeah, we used to crank out the brass weights for lab scales, er, balances, by the thousands on the old Brown and Sharpe screw machines. We sprayed them with spray cans of polyurethane. Doesn't that throw the weight off? Yep. Especially critical in a place like brown and Sharp which makes precise measuring tools, like micrometers -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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willshak wrote: aemeijers wrote the following: Smitty Two wrote: In article , " wrote: Kate wrote: I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Only reason they will not tarnish is because they are coated with lacquer. When lacquer wears off, tarnish appears (more quickly in salt air). Can remove the lacquer, polish, recoat with clear lacquer or varnish. Yeah, we used to crank out the brass weights for lab scales, er, balances, by the thousands on the old Brown and Sharpe screw machines. We sprayed them with spray cans of polyurethane. Doesn't that throw the weight off? Yep. Especially critical in a place like brown and Sharp which makes precise measuring tools, like micrometers Huh? We manufactured the weights using B&S machines, we didn't sell them to B&S. But anyway, no, we allowed for the weight of the poly, same as you'd work out the thickness of anodizing or plating when machining parts. Our customer sold to Edmund and places like that. |
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On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:12:31 -0700, Kate wrote:
I have a brass door handle. The package insert said it would not tarnish. I have had it four years, and it is underneath an eave. It always gets tarnished. Has anyone bought a nice fancy brass door handle that does not tarnish? If so, what kind is it? Many thanks. Kate Was it guaranteed not to tarnish? Does the package contain false advertisement? If the package says it won't tarnish and it did, what did the manufacturer tell you? If you really want shiny low-maintenance metal, avoid brass and get stainless steel. |
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