GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
Beta-42 wrote:
I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1 , and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator). |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
On May 20, 8:05*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Beta-42 wrote: I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). *The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. *But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. *I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1, and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed that's possible. I don't believe that a gfci would be required in this situation. But if you are worried I suspect a single plug outlet dedicated to the washer would avoid any code entanglements without using a gfci. But I have seen many ordinary 2 plug outlet boxes in infinshed basements without gfci's in them. |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... On May 20, 8:05 am, "HeyBub" wrote: Beta-42 wrote: I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1, and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed that's possible. I don't believe that a gfci would be required in this situation. But if you are worried I suspect a single plug outlet dedicated to the washer would avoid any code entanglements without using a gfci. But I have seen many ordinary 2 plug outlet boxes in infinshed basements without gfci's in them. The gfci will not be affected by a motor surge, and gfci protection is required for ALL 15 & 20 amp outlets in unfinished parts of a basement |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1 , and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator). *At my last code update seminar when the new changes to GFI protection requirements came up, the instructor told us that appliance manufacturers were now building appliances to higher leakage standards than before. Nuisance tripping of the garage refrigerator should be eliminated as well as other major appliances. Also GFI's have been redesigned in the past few years and you should not have the problems that were a nuisance in the past. From my own experience I have received calls from customers complaining of nuisance tripping with appliances. The problem usually turned out to be with the appliance. |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
On May 20, 7:59*pm, "John Grabowski" wrote:
I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). *The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. *But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. *I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1, and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator). *At my last code update seminar when the new changes to GFI protection requirements came up, the instructor told us that appliance manufacturers were now building appliances to higher leakage standards than before. Nuisance tripping of the garage refrigerator should be eliminated as well as other major appliances. *Also GFI's have been redesigned in the past few years and you should not have the problems that were a nuisance in the past. From my own experience I have received calls from customers complaining of nuisance tripping with appliances. *The problem usually turned out to be with the appliance.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Be that as it may. If you have a major appliance that if fine other than nuisance tripping the gfci you gonna buy a new appliance? Or take out the gfci and replace it with a single outlet? |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... On May 20, 7:59 pm, "John Grabowski" wrote: I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1, and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator). *At my last code update seminar when the new changes to GFI protection requirements came up, the instructor told us that appliance manufacturers were now building appliances to higher leakage standards than before. Nuisance tripping of the garage refrigerator should be eliminated as well as other major appliances. Also GFI's have been redesigned in the past few years and you should not have the problems that were a nuisance in the past. From my own experience I have received calls from customers complaining of nuisance tripping with appliances. The problem usually turned out to be with the appliance.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Be that as it may. If you have a major appliance that if fine other than nuisance tripping the gfci you gonna buy a new appliance? Or take out the gfci and replace it with a single outlet? People can, and will do whatever they want, however the current NEC does not have a provision or exception for using anything but a GFCI protected outlet in an unfinished basement |
GFCI wall outlet in unfinished basement
I want to add a surface-mounted GFCI outlet on the wall in an unfinished basement (for a washing machine). The wiring going to the outlet will be 12/2 NM. I think I can figure out how to do it if I just use a metal box and metal conduit. But, I am wondering if there is a way that I can do it using plastic/PVC instead of metal. I am thinking of using this type of PVC box: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4FYW1, and then running the 12/2 NM wire down along the wall through 1/2-inch PVC conduit to get to the box. If I do that, my question is, "Is there some type of fitting or adapter that goes on the top end of the PVC conduit where the 12/2 NM enters the PVC conduit?" Before you do all that, consider that the motor surge of the washing machine may nusiance-trip the GFCI outlet (same as a refrigerator). *At my last code update seminar when the new changes to GFI protection requirements came up, the instructor told us that appliance manufacturers were now building appliances to higher leakage standards than before. Nuisance tripping of the garage refrigerator should be eliminated as well as other major appliances. Also GFI's have been redesigned in the past few years and you should not have the problems that were a nuisance in the past. From my own experience I have received calls from customers complaining of nuisance tripping with appliances. The problem usually turned out to be with the appliance.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Be that as it may. If you have a major appliance that if fine other than nuisance tripping the gfci you gonna buy a new appliance? Or take out the gfci and replace it with a single outlet? *First I would replace the GFI with a new GFI. If the tripping was not eliminated, that would indicate that there's a problem with the appliance and a possible shock hazard. I would not want to keep an appliance that I could get electrocuted from. |
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