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hibb March 1st 10 12:47 AM

Room Ventilation
 
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.

David

Dean Hoffman[_7_] March 1st 10 01:01 AM

Room Ventilation
 
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.

David


Could you just put a vent to an adjoining room that isn't likely to
be occupied while you're recording? Basically just poke a hole in a wall?

Tony Hwang March 1st 10 01:08 AM

Room Ventilation
 
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.

David

Hi,
Most door I know of has air gap at the botom of the door. You mean this
is not the case? Your door is air tight against the floor? I never saw
100% air tight room in residential buildings.

HeyBub[_3_] March 1st 10 01:23 AM

Room Ventilation
 
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.



There's enough Oxygen in an average room to supply several people for days.

If you're concerned, you could get a canary.



Bud-- March 1st 10 01:24 AM

Room Ventilation
 
Dean Hoffman wrote:
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.

David


Could you just put a vent to an adjoining room that isn't likely to
be occupied while you're recording? Basically just poke a hole in a wall?


There are metal ducts that are lined with fiberglass insulation. It is
thermal insulation but would probably absorb sound well. If there were a
couple 90 degree bends my guess is minimal sound would get through. I
think there are also rectangular ducts made of fiberglass insulation.

hibb March 1st 10 01:33 AM

Room Ventilation
 
On Feb 28, 8:08*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.


The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.


I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.


So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?


There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.


Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.


David


Hi,
Most door I know of has air gap at the botom of the door. You mean this
is not the case? Your door is air tight against the floor? I never saw
100% *air tight room in residential buildings.


Well, the idea of creating a recording studio is to close every gap
you can. For example, I will be attaching something called resilient
channel to the wood framing and attaching the first layer of 5/8
drywall to the resilient channel so there is not much of a hard
connection between the drywall and the wood. Then I will apply another
layer of 5/8 drywall over that but separated with an adhesive called
Green Glue.

There is one window in the room so I will leave the, not very old,
double hung window in place and insulate around it the best I can and
then, because of the extra thickness of the drywall, I will build up
the inside window frame and box in that whole window with a single
piece of extra thick glass.

The bottom of the door will not exactly reach the threshold but there
will be a gasket or rubber flap or something on the bottom to close
that gap.

Thanks, David

ransley March 1st 10 01:54 AM

Room Ventilation
 
On Feb 28, 6:47*pm, hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.

The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.

I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.

So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?

There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.

Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.

David


No return in a airtight room means a stuffy mess. What is total power
consumption of everything you will have on, even lights because its
all going to be converted to heat, even the Btus people put out. In
summer you will need more Btu cooling then before if your walls have
been upgraded for sound deadining, you wont need as much extra heat in
the winter but you need to move air in and out.

hr(bob) [email protected] March 1st 10 02:20 AM

Room Ventilation
 
On Feb 28, 7:54*pm, ransley wrote:
On Feb 28, 6:47*pm, hibb wrote:





This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.


The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.


I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.


So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?


There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.


Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.


David


No return in a airtight room means a stuffy mess. What is total power
consumption of everything you will have on, even lights because its
all going to be converted to heat, even the Btus people put out. In
summer you will need more Btu cooling then before if your walls have
been upgraded for sound deadining, you wont need as much extra heat in
the winter but you need to move air in and out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Why not put some sort of closeable vent in the door, maybe a register
outlet cover on both the inside and the outside of the door. Won't
look great, but would provide a reasonable air flow when both are open
and when both are closed there would be a reasonable sound barrier.

mm March 1st 10 03:23 AM

Room Ventilation
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:23:35 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:




There's enough Oxygen in an average room to supply several people for days.

If you're concerned, you could get a canary.


I saw a canary give mouth to mouth resuscitation. It didn't work.

He couldn't do chest compressions at the same time.

terry March 1st 10 03:59 PM

Room Ventilation
 
On Feb 28, 10:24*pm, bud-- wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.


The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.


I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.


So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?


There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.


Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.


David


* * Could you just put a vent to an adjoining room that isn't likely to
be occupied while you're recording? *Basically just poke a hole in a wall?


There are metal ducts that are lined with fiberglass insulation. It is
thermal insulation but would probably absorb sound well. If there were a
couple 90 degree bends my guess is minimal sound would get through. I
think there are also rectangular ducts made of fiberglass insulation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just a comment:
Every kilowatt of equipment = 3300 BTU.
Each human body = approx. 300 BTU (maybe more if active?)
Each 100 watt bulb or equivalent = 330 BTU ............... etc. etc.
Considering that typical bedroom in this cold climate has a 1500 watt
electric heater which is on about 60% of the time (in coldest weather)
giving 1.5 x 3300 x 0.6 = about 3000 BTUs; could be like a furnace in
there?

hibb March 1st 10 06:08 PM

Room Ventilation
 
On Feb 28, 8:24*pm, bud-- wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.


The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.


I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.


So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?


There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.


Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.


David


* * Could you just put a vent to an adjoining room that isn't likely to
be occupied while you're recording? *Basically just poke a hole in a wall?


There are metal ducts that are lined with fiberglass insulation. It is
thermal insulation but would probably absorb sound well. If there were a
couple 90 degree bends my guess is minimal sound would get through. I
think there are also rectangular ducts made of fiberglass insulation.


I guess I could install a vent in the ceiling and run a long line of
insulated ductwork with several bends to another vent in the ceiling
above the stairs since I will be remodeling that area next. That
should not conduct much sound at all.

Thanks, David

Tony Hwang March 3rd 10 04:36 PM

Room Ventilation
 
hibb wrote:
On Feb 28, 8:08 pm, Tony wrote:
hibb wrote:
This room that I am working on right now will be used for recording
and will be about as soundprooof as I can get it without going too
overboard cost wise. So, to me, that means that it is going to be very
air tight too.


The thing about his house is that there are no furnace air returns in
the whole upstairs. So I only have one heat vent in this room and no
air return.


I don't need the vent for heat but will need to use the air
conditioner in the summer. I can just open the door and let the room
cool down and then not need the air conditioner much for a while when
I close the door even tho the Air will still be on. I can also turn on
the fan in the winter even tho I will be using a space heater
(probably a radiator type because they are quiet) to heat up the
room.


So the question is will the furnace fan blow much air into an airtight
room that has no air return or at least an opening for the air that is
already in the room to go to? If I just open the door for a while
every half hour or hour or something like that would that be enough to
keep enough oxygen in the air so I don't pass out or worse?


There's also going to be a concern too if the house is sold sometime
in the future when I am not around and no one gets told how air tight
that room is and they use it for a bedroom or something.


Well crap. I think I just talked myself into figuring out a way of
getting an air return set up in that room. Better safe than sorry.


David


Hi,
Most door I know of has air gap at the botom of the door. You mean this
is not the case? Your door is air tight against the floor? I never saw
100% air tight room in residential buildings.


Well, the idea of creating a recording studio is to close every gap
you can. For example, I will be attaching something called resilient
channel to the wood framing and attaching the first layer of 5/8
drywall to the resilient channel so there is not much of a hard
connection between the drywall and the wood. Then I will apply another
layer of 5/8 drywall over that but separated with an adhesive called
Green Glue.

There is one window in the room so I will leave the, not very old,
double hung window in place and insulate around it the best I can and
then, because of the extra thickness of the drywall, I will build up
the inside window frame and box in that whole window with a single
piece of extra thick glass.

The bottom of the door will not exactly reach the threshold but there
will be a gasket or rubber flap or something on the bottom to close
that gap.

Thanks, David

Hi,
Our recording room is in the basement surrounded by think pelt fabric
pretty dead sound chamber. We do guitar, drum recording with multi-track
digital set up. We(me and my son) are non-pro but can produce decent
amateur recordings turning into CD just for fun.


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