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Sam Takoy February 28th 10 01:44 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't have a bleeder. What
the radiator basically is, is a continuous tube twisted back and forth
like a snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air trapped inside it.
When I turn it on, the air will start traveling through my hot water system.

Where will it end up? Will it end up spread around other radiators that
do have bleeders or there is another mechanism (e.g. at the boiler) for
the excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam

Ed Pawlowski[_2_] February 28th 10 02:16 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 


"Sam Takoy" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't have a bleeder. What the
radiator basically is, is a continuous tube twisted back and forth like a
snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air trapped inside it. When
I turn it on, the air will start traveling through my hot water system.

Where will it end up? Will it end up spread around other radiators that do
have bleeders or there is another mechanism (e.g. at the boiler) for the
excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


You may have a bleeder at the boiler. It is also possible to do some manual
bleeding too, at the drain valve if one is on the return line. When I had m
system open, it was the same situation. I took a bucket to the valve and
cracked it open so it was a very tiny steam. When the circulator pushed the
air by, I could hear it and opened the valve and got most of the air out.
Over a few days the bleeder took care of the rest.


ransley February 28th 10 04:30 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
On Feb 28, 7:44*am, Sam Takoy wrote:
Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't have a bleeder. What
the radiator basically is, is a continuous tube twisted back and forth
like a snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air trapped inside it.
When I turn it on, the air will start traveling through my hot water system.

Where will it end up? Will it end up spread around other radiators that
do have bleeders or there is another mechanism (e.g. at the boiler) for
the excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


You probably will just end up with trapped air in the radiator and no
good heat. I would not want or have a radiator without an air bleeder,
to much of a headache and you are now praying it might be ok someday.

Ed Pawlowski[_2_] February 28th 10 05:20 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 


"ransley" wrote in message
...
On Feb 28, 7:44 am, Sam Takoy wrote:
Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't have a bleeder. What
the radiator basically is, is a continuous tube twisted back and forth
like a snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air trapped inside it.
When I turn it on, the air will start traveling through my hot water
system.

Where will it end up? Will it end up spread around other radiators that
do have bleeders or there is another mechanism (e.g. at the boiler) for
the excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam


You probably will just end up with trapped air in the radiator and no
good heat. I would not want or have a radiator without an air bleeder,
to much of a headache and you are now praying it might be ok someday.


From his description, it is just a serpentine coil. Air would be easily
pushed through it, just as baseboard heat does.


Stormin Mormon March 1st 10 02:17 AM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
Many boilers have an air escape device on top of
the boiler. Spirovent is one brand. Often they
corrode, and don't work very well.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Sam Takoy" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't
have a bleeder. What
the radiator basically is, is a continuous tube
twisted back and forth
like a snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air
trapped inside it.
When I turn it on, the air will start traveling
through my hot water system.

Where will it end up? Will it end up spread around
other radiators that
do have bleeders or there is another mechanism
(e.g. at the boiler) for
the excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam



mm March 1st 10 08:19 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:44:27 -0500, Sam Takoy
wrote:

Hi,

I came into possession of a radiator that doesn't have a bleeder. What
the radiator basically is, is a continuous tube twisted back and forth
like a snake.

Now, when I install this radiator, it'll have air trapped inside it.
When I turn it on, the air will start traveling through my hot water system.

Where will it end up?


Sweden. If it were hot air it would end up in DC.

You don't say specificially that you have hot water heat?

I guess you do.

Why not drill and thread a hole and put in a bleeder?

Will it end up spread around other radiators that
do have bleeders or there is another mechanism (e.g. at the boiler) for
the excess air to escape?

Many thanks in advance,

Sam



Shaun Eli March 2nd 10 10:45 PM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
I had at least a half-dozen HVAC guys tell me that my baseboard
radiators had no bleeder valves and that the only way to get air out
of the system was to drain and refill it. Even did it a couple of
times, with me standing there saying "But the water you're adding has
air in it too. How's this gonna be any better?"

Finally one guy pointed to a tiny thing near the boiler, said "That's
an automatic bleeder, oh, someone screwed it closed." He opened it a
bit, after the air was bled a bit of water came out, he said "That's
probably why someone closed it, I'll replace it" and now, no problems.

mm March 3rd 10 08:17 AM

Radiator w/o bleeder
 
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:45:31 -0800 (PST), Shaun Eli
wrote:

I had at least a half-dozen HVAC guys tell me that my baseboard
radiators had no bleeder valves and that the only way to get air out
of the system was to drain and refill it. Even did it a couple of
times, with me standing there saying "But the water you're adding has
air in it too. How's this gonna be any better?"


They should have used airless water. You can find it at the bottom of
the Atlantic. It's practically free, except for removal and
shipping.

Finally one guy pointed to a tiny thing near the boiler, said "That's
an automatic bleeder, oh, someone screwed it closed." He opened it a
bit, after the air was bled a bit of water came out, he said "That's
probably why someone closed it, I'll replace it" and now, no problems.


Didn't know about that. Thanks.


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