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mcp6453[_2_] January 22nd 10 12:26 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen sink. This
past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons. Out of curiosity, I
looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is all black from the leak.
Presumably the black discoloration is mold or mildew. The leak has been fixed.
We sprayed bleach in all of the areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell. Is there an
alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the subfloor? I'd have to hire
someone to do it as that's beyond my limited skill set.

dadiOH[_3_] January 22nd 10 01:20 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.


Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black? Don't
bother.

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mcp6453[_2_] January 22nd 10 01:47 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.


Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black? Don't
bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it sufficient to just
kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no circumstances do I want a health
hazard for my family or for a subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to
have to tear out the kitchen if and when we decide to sell.



Tony[_19_] January 22nd 10 02:34 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
mcp6453 wrote:
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.

Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black? Don't
bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it sufficient to just
kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no circumstances do I want a health
hazard for my family or for a subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to
have to tear out the kitchen if and when we decide to sell.


There is a very good chance of having black mold under the cabinet. The
only DIY I can think of is to cut out the bottom of the cabinet leaving
a couple inches all around. Kill, clean the mold/floor below, then cut
a piece of thin plywood and set it on top of the few inches you left
when you cut out the old bottom. Actually, if it was me I'd do that
exact same thing.

[email protected][_2_] January 22nd 10 03:53 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
mcp6453 wrote:
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.

Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black? Don't
bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it sufficient to just
kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no circumstances do I want a health
hazard for my family or for a subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to
have to tear out the kitchen if and when we decide to sell.


Mildew has been around forever and spores are EVERYWHERE. It grows in
damp places. If you are worried, drill a couple of holes in the bottom
of the cabinet, spray in some 10% bleach/water and then forget about it.

Red Green January 22nd 10 04:06 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
mcp6453 wrote in
:

On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.


Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black?
Don't bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it
sufficient to just kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no
circumstances do I want a health hazard for my family or for a
subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to have to tear out the
kitchen if and when we decide to sell.




Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it


Seriously, someday the place will be sold by you or whoever after you go
to the big duct tape factory in the sky. A home inspector will point it
out to the buyer, may say it appears to be inactive but the buyer should
get an opinion from a certified mold inspector. Buyer may try to put that
expense on the seller. My understanding is those are not just a couple of
hundred bucks but I really don't know firsthand.

Steve B[_3_] January 22nd 10 04:44 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 

"Red Green" wrote in message
...
mcp6453 wrote in
:

On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.

Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black?
Don't bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it
sufficient to just kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no
circumstances do I want a health hazard for my family or for a
subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to have to tear out the
kitchen if and when we decide to sell.




Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it


Seriously, someday the place will be sold by you or whoever after you go
to the big duct tape factory in the sky. A home inspector will point it
out to the buyer, may say it appears to be inactive but the buyer should
get an opinion from a certified mold inspector. Buyer may try to put that
expense on the seller. My understanding is those are not just a couple of
hundred bucks but I really don't know firsthand.


The correct answer is: YES, NO, ABSOLUTELY, DEFINITELY, MAYBE, AND I DON'T
KNOW.

We cannot give you accurate advice because laws in your state (all bets off
in California) as to disclosure and mold remediation and such things may not
be accurate where YOU live. Consult a local expert, and go from there. You
can get an expert free opinion and inspection from a licensed contractor.
What's the downside to that?

If you DO sell, and there is mold remediation needed, you have a few ways to
go. One, don't say anything and hope they don't catch it; don't say
anything, and if they do catch it, they will rake you over the coals;
disclose it, and have them knock a chunk off the price; have it fixed now.

Get some local professional opinions. You'll get lots of free opinions here
and they are worth ten times the price. And they may end up costing you big
time.

Steve



DerbyDad03 January 22nd 10 04:59 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
On Jan 22, 8:47*am, mcp6453 wrote:
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:





mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.


The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.


Why do you want to replace the subfloor? *Because it was black? *Don't
bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it sufficient to just
kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no circumstances do I want a health
hazard for my family or for a subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to
have to tear out the kitchen if and when we decide to sell.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Because I want to be able to sell the house?"

There was just an article about this very subject in the Home section
of my local paper.

The suggestion for "black spots on the roof rafters after the mold had
been bleached" was to document the steps taken to remediate the mold,
have the attic inspected by a mold remediation company and save the
documents for any perspective buyers to review.

However, even if you gave this documentation to me, I'd still have my
own inspector "certify" the absense of mold.

If you decide to go the inspection route at this time, it would
probably more for *your* piece of mind than any perspective buyer's.

dadiOH[_3_] January 22nd 10 09:45 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
mcp6453 wrote:
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.


Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black?
Don't bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it
sufficient to just kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no
circumstances do I want a health hazard for my family or for a
subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to have to tear out the
kitchen if and when we decide to sell.


You decide. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. But I don't worry about
lead or asbestos either; also, I never had a bomb shelter in the 50s.
http://www.health.ri.gov/environment/risk/mold.php

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico




[email protected] January 22nd 10 11:48 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:45:03 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

mcp6453 wrote:
On 1/22/2010 8:20 AM, dadiOH wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:
There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen
sink. This past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons.
Out of curiosity, I looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is
all black from the leak. Presumably the black discoloration is mold
or mildew. The leak has been fixed. We sprayed bleach in all of the
areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell.
Is there an alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the
subfloor? I'd have to hire someone to do it as that's beyond my
limited skill set.

Why do you want to replace the subfloor? Because it was black?
Don't bother.


Because I want to be able to sell the house? Seriously, is it
sufficient to just kill the mold/mildew and move on? Under no
circumstances do I want a health hazard for my family or for a
subsequent owner of the house, nor do I want to have to tear out the
kitchen if and when we decide to sell.


You decide. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. But I don't worry about
lead or asbestos either; also, I never had a bomb shelter in the 50s.
http://www.health.ri.gov/environment/risk/mold.php



Bleach it to kill any mold, then when it is good and dry, seal it with
somthing like Kilz primer. If the black doesn't come back, you've got
it.

Phisherman[_2_] January 23rd 10 10:50 PM

Leak Under Kitchen Sink
 
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:26:26 -0500, mcp6453 wrote:

There was a small leak over a long period of time under my kitchen sink. This
past weekend, I went under the house for other reasons. Out of curiosity, I
looked at the floor underneath the sink. It is all black from the leak.
Presumably the black discoloration is mold or mildew. The leak has been fixed.
We sprayed bleach in all of the areas we could reach to kill any mold.

The kitchen cabinet floors are not removable, as best as I can tell. Is there an
alternative to removing the cabinet and replacing the subfloor? I'd have to hire
someone to do it as that's beyond my limited skill set.



You'll need to assess the damage. I bet you can remove the cabinet
floor, at least some of it to take a look?

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