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don &/or Lucille October 22nd 09 09:55 PM

Electric Stove
 
Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on when
dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating



dpb October 22nd 09 10:13 PM

Electric Stove
 
don &/or Lucille wrote:
Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on when
dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating


Yeah, need new control--they are simple rheostats in essence and can
develop dead spot.

--

Don Phillipson[_2_] October 22nd 09 10:14 PM

Electric Stove
 
"don &/or Lucille" wrote in message
...

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on when
dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating


Better repost clarifying what you mean. It sounds as if one top burner
element (1) fails to heat when its unique control is switched on,
(2) heats when the other three controls (for three other burners) are
switched on. This seems dangerous.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)




jeff_wisnia[_2_] October 23rd 09 04:03 AM

Electric Stove
 
dpb wrote:
don &/or Lucille wrote:

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating



Yeah, need new control--they are simple rheostats in essence and can
develop dead spot.

--


I concur, but they sure aren't rheostats. If they were they'd dissipate
as much heat as the element itself when set for "half heat", and would
get hotter than hell themselves.

I'm remembering how they worked from many years ago. Back then they were
simple pulse width modulators based on thermostatic action mechanically
modified by the setting of the temperature control knob.

Do they still work on that principle guys?

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Tony Hwang October 23rd 09 05:33 AM

Electric Stove
 
jeff_wisnia wrote:
dpb wrote:
don &/or Lucille wrote:

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating



Yeah, need new control--they are simple rheostats in essence and can
develop dead spot.

--


I concur, but they sure aren't rheostats. If they were they'd dissipate
as much heat as the element itself when set for "half heat", and would
get hotter than hell themselves.

I'm remembering how they worked from many years ago. Back then they were
simple pulse width modulators based on thermostatic action mechanically
modified by the setting of the temperature control knob.

Do they still work on that principle guys?

Jeff

Hi,
No.Bi-metal based mech. control is gone. Now it is electronic like light
dimmer.

terry October 23rd 09 05:52 AM

Electric Stove
 
On Oct 23, 2:33*am, Tony Hwang wrote:
jeff_wisnia wrote:
dpb wrote:
don &/or Lucille wrote:


Antone come across this before? One of the small elements wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating


Yeah, need new control--they are simple rheostats in essence and can
develop dead spot.


--


I concur, but they sure aren't rheostats. If they were they'd dissipate
as much heat as the element itself when set for "half heat", and would
get hotter than hell themselves.


I'm remembering how they worked from many years ago. Back then they were
simple pulse width modulators based on thermostatic action mechanically
modified by the setting of the temperature control knob.


Do they still work on that principle guys?


Jeff


Hi,
No.Bi-metal based mechanical. control is gone. Now it is electronic like light
dimmer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Interesting. We still use old stoves, and have only very occasioanlly
replaced one of the controls.
But yes the older controls do click in and out when set to anything
other than maximum.
Agree; in the case of this OP replace the control.
Once or twice in some 50+ years have seen more sophisticated control
that incorporate a temperature sensor tube that feeds back the
temperature of the heating element to the control itself. Very rare
IMO.
Not familiar with newer solid state/electronic controls but guess they
are similar to a heavy duty light dimmer-switch? Some form of triac
maybe?

don &/or Lucille October 25th 09 12:16 AM

Electric Stove
 
NO picture this the control knob is numbered one to TEN,one being low. The
element wont start heating until its on two
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"don &/or Lucille" wrote in message
...

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating


Better repost clarifying what you mean. It sounds as if one top burner
element (1) fails to heat when its unique control is switched on,
(2) heats when the other three controls (for three other burners) are
switched on. This seems dangerous.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)







Tony Hwang October 25th 09 12:43 AM

Electric Stove
 
don &/or Lucille wrote:
NO picture this the control knob is numbered one to TEN,one being low. The
element wont start heating until its on two
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"don &/or Lucille" wrote in message
...

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating

Better repost clarifying what you mean. It sounds as if one top burner
element (1) fails to heat when its unique control is switched on,
(2) heats when the other three controls (for three other burners) are
switched on. This seems dangerous.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)






Hi,
Nothing wrong with that. At 1, the current flow is so low, you can
hardly feel the heat.

don &/or Lucille October 25th 09 01:19 PM

Electric Stove
 
well the other three warm up on one?!
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:43:43 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

don &/or Lucille wrote:
NO picture this the control knob is numbered one to TEN,one being low.
The
element wont start heating until its on two
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...
"don &/or Lucille" wrote in message
...

Antone come across this before? One of the small elemets wont turn on
when dial is turned on 1 but needs to be put on three before heating
Better repost clarifying what you mean. It sounds as if one top
burner
element (1) fails to heat when its unique control is switched on,
(2) heats when the other three controls (for three other burners) are
switched on. This seems dangerous.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)






Hi,
Nothing wrong with that. At 1, the current flow is so low, you can
hardly feel the heat.



That is true. The 1 and 2 settings are just for holding a little heat
in an already warm pot. It would take forever to actually raise the
heat on much with that setting but it is great if you are just keeping
dinner warm without burning the bottom of the pan.
These are also far from lab grade instruments and I doubt any of them
are the same at these low numbers.





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