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Alfred K. September 28th 09 09:44 PM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?



Oren[_2_] September 28th 09 09:49 PM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:00 -0500, Alfred K. wrote:

Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?


Is this a vessel sink?


Alfred K. September 28th 09 11:20 PM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:00 -0500, Alfred K. wrote:

Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?


Is this a vessel sink?


No, it's a "regular" one but the spring-loaded pop-up drain that was
included with the sink has been replaced with the handle-operated one
that came with the faucet. It could be that the internal cut (within
the pop-up body) that is made to accommodate the overflow stream is
partially blocked...

What is the practice of marrying the sinks with overflow openings with
"non-native" pop-up assemblies to avoid such obstructions?



bob haller September 28th 09 11:25 PM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
On Sep 28, 6:20�pm, Alfred K. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:00 -0500, Alfred K. wrote:


Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?


Is this a vessel sink?


No, it's a "regular" one but the spring-loaded pop-up drain that was
included with the sink has been replaced with the handle-operated one
that came with the faucet. It could be that the internal cut (within
the pop-up body) that is made to accommodate the overflow stream is �
partially blocked...

What is the practice of marrying the sinks with overflow openings with
"non-native" pop-up assemblies to avoid such obstructions?


most anti flood holes dont accept the full flow from a faucet with a
fully blocked drain./

i looked into this many years ago when replacing my bathroom sink

Mark[_8_] September 29th 09 12:28 AM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 

"Alfred K." wrote in message
...
Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to just
help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water level
down faster?


Generally the overflow enters the main drain just below where the drain
pop-up closes. Therefore if the pop-up is open and the drain is not
draining to the point the water backs up to the overflow, you are probably
out of luck since the blockage is probably beyond (down stream) from where
the overflow would connect.


Phisherman[_2_] September 29th 09 12:43 AM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:00 -0500, Alfred K. wrote:

Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?



I would NOT expect the overflow to keep up with a fully opened faucet.
Certainly not a good idea to run a faucet full blast and leave the
room.

fftt September 29th 09 02:46 AM

Bathroom sink overflow opening effectiveness
 
On Sep 28, 4:43*pm, Phisherman wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:44:00 -0500, Alfred K. wrote:
Consider an extreme situation: a fully opened faucet and a completely
closed pop-up bathroom sink drain. Should a properly installed overflow
opening actually prevent the sink overflowing? Or it is supposed to
just help the main [open] drain by lowering the about to overflow water
level down faster?


I would NOT expect the overflow to keep up with a fully opened faucet.
Certainly not a good idea to run a faucet full blast and leave the
room.


In the old days, a fully open sink faucet could overwhelm the sink
overflow (I did the experiment in more than one sink)

but with the mandate for "low flow" faucets I'm guessing that
overflows might now handle the flow.

cheers
Bob


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