Old American Standard toilet from around 1954. Has some Fluidmaster
components in it.

It works OK but about 4 times/day it pumps maybe an additional gallon
of water in, so it has a slow leak.

I checked the stopper and it's apertu both look fine, but I spread
a little vaseline on both to help insure seal. No help. Overflow tube,
etc look OK.

Visual inspection looks OK but it leaks. Any ideas?

Thx,
Willie

Turn the valve off that supplies water to the johnny. Put some food
coloring or other dye in the water closet of the johnny, and let it set
overnight. If there is coloration in the basin the next morning, then the
flapper is leaking and must be replaced. Sometimes they look perfectly
fine, but still leak a bit.

You can get a good flapper at Home Depot or Lowes for $ 6-7.

James

Willie The Wimp wrote:
Old American Standard toilet from around 1954. Has some Fluidmaster
components in it.

It works OK but about 4 times/day it pumps maybe an additional gallon
of water in, so it has a slow leak.

I checked the stopper and it's apertu both look fine, but I spread
a little vaseline on both to help insure seal. No help. Overflow tube,
etc look OK.

Visual inspection looks OK but it leaks. Any ideas?

Thx,
Willie

Put some dye in it to help you see exactly where it's leaking.

TDD

On Aug 23, 4:50*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
Willie The Wimp wrote:
Old American Standard toilet from around 1954. Has some Fluidmaster
components in it.

It works OK but about 4 times/day it pumps maybe an additional gallon
of water in, so it has a slow leak.

I checked the stopper and it's apertu both look fine, but I spread
a little vaseline on both to help insure seal. No help. Overflow tube,
etc look OK.

Visual inspection looks OK but it leaks. Any ideas?

* Thx,
* Willie

Put some dye in it to help you see exactly where it's leaking.

TDD

We had one toilet flapper looked fine but it had somehow crinkled or
got worn one side and leaked a little bit.
Sometimes good idea to keep a spare valve assembly or at least a
replacement flapper along with a spare toilet base wax seal, in the
bathroom vanity cabinet. That helps when the toilet malfunctions at
2.00 AM over a long holiday weekend, 50 miles from the nearest
hardware that 'might' be open on the morrow and 'might' (or might
not!) have a suitable replacement. So this time buy two. With luck you
'might' need the second one within ten years and you or whoever is
then involved will look like a hero!

stan wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:50 pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
Willie The Wimp wrote:
Old American Standard toilet from around 1954. Has some Fluidmaster
components in it.
It works OK but about 4 times/day it pumps maybe an additional gallon
of water in, so it has a slow leak.
I checked the stopper and it's apertu both look fine, but I spread
a little vaseline on both to help insure seal. No help. Overflow tube,
etc look OK.
Visual inspection looks OK but it leaks. Any ideas?
Thx,
Willie
Put some dye in it to help you see exactly where it's leaking.

TDD

We had one toilet flapper looked fine but it had somehow crinkled or
got worn one side and leaked a little bit.
Sometimes good idea to keep a spare valve assembly or at least a
replacement flapper along with a spare toilet base wax seal, in the
bathroom vanity cabinet. That helps when the toilet malfunctions at
2.00 AM over a long holiday weekend, 50 miles from the nearest
hardware that 'might' be open on the morrow and 'might' (or might
not!) have a suitable replacement. So this time buy two. With luck you
'might' need the second one within ten years and you or whoever is
then involved will look like a hero!

I've seen flappers that look OK develop a leak. There are
kits that contain an insert to take the place of the existing
valve seat and a new flapper. I would use one of those if
there were any nicks in the valve seat. Here's a good guide:

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/h2repairtoilet

TDD

Willie The Wimp wrote:
Old American Standard toilet from around 1954. Has some Fluidmaster
components in it.

It works OK but about 4 times/day it pumps maybe an additional gallon
of water in, so it has a slow leak.

I checked the stopper and it's apertu both look fine, but I spread
a little vaseline on both to help insure seal. No help. Overflow tube,
etc look OK.

Visual inspection looks OK but it leaks. Any ideas?


Frustrating, I know. But it's only a gallon. Forget about it.

If the valve seat is brass, try smoothing it with a brillo pad so that
the flapper makes a better seal.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:22:05 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:


Frustrating, I know. But it's only a gallon. Forget about it.

Actually a viable suggestion, as there's no shortage of water
here, and I'm not metered.

But I'd wake in the middle the nite, hear the damned thang,
and it'd give me heartburn. :-)

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:19:54 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:

I've seen flappers that look OK develop a leak. There are
kits that contain an insert to take the place of the existing
valve seat and a new flapper. I would use one of those if
there were any nicks in the valve seat. Here's a good guide:

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/h2repairtoilet

That was a help.

Turns out what I got is a Fluidmaster Flusher Fixer Kit
from 15-20 years ago. Looks plenty different from the
one they sell now.

All I need is a flapper, near as I can tell, but I
guess I may have to buy a new FFFK, rip the old one
out, and replace it.

Unless someone knows where I can get just a flapper?

Thx,
Willie