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I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. The turf
was good but a little sparce. I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?

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Red wrote:
I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. The turf
was good but a little sparce. I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?


No. They're an indicator of organic material (an old tree root,
construction debris, whatever) decaying in the soil. The fungus
colonizes it and periodically sends up mushrooms. As the root or
debris decays, the mushroom crops will diminish. Simplest way to deal
with them - kick 'em or rake 'em.
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On Aug 12, 2:20*pm, Hell Toupee wrote:
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I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. *The turf
was good but a little sparse. *I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. *The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. *Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?


No. They're an indicator of organic material (an old tree root,
construction debris, whatever) decaying in the soil. The fungus
colonizes it and periodically sends up mushrooms. As the root or
debris decays, the mushroom crops will diminish. Simplest way to deal
with them - kick 'em or rake 'em.


Unless poisonous, enjoy them!

No; don't mean try eating them but unless they are harmful to pets or
children (and small ones, children that is, who tend to put things in
their mouths) who should be properly monitored anyway, let them be.
They don't last long.

Certain times of the year under some of our trees we get different
varieties of toadstools. Kinda nice to look out there some cool damp
fall morning and see a few patches etc. Considering that's 50 feet
from a busy road, especially school mornings, it's a nice 'sylvan'
touch.

I even threw some 'edible' mushrooms bits out there once and got a
small crop of what I swear were 'real' mushrooms; just like from the
store. Wife however wouldn't let me eat them; maybe she was afraid
they were somehow 'magic'? :-)

And why we have to chew/scrape/dig/eliminate or pour chemicals on
everything that isn't an exact blade of grass or store bought plant,
cannot understand. No wonder there are no bees and other insects to
fertilize food crops, flowers and trees/bushes! Maybe a very limited
view of what should or should not be allowed to grow in our suburban
wilderness?

BTW we have two dead tree stumps that are growing a sort fan shaped
fungus. Non odorous, not slimy, sorta dry and hard. Very interesting.
One is now about half size of a dinner plate.

We have never used 'a bagger' and only cut occasionally. The grass
clippings just rot back into the soil.
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On Aug 12, 9:48*am, Red wrote:
I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. *The turf
was good but a little sparce. *I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. *The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. *Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?

Red


Ive mulched for years and the only time Thatch was an issue was when I
used chemlawn or other liqued fertilisers, white mushrooms are from
buried decaying wood.
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On Aug 12, 3:18*pm, ransley wrote:


white mushrooms are from buried decaying wood.


True in many cases but not this one. These are coming up randomly over
the whole yard and not in a line that would indicate old roots. Would
decaying mulch provide the same growing medium as decaying wood?

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white mushrooms are from buried decaying wood.


True in many cases but not this one. These are coming up randomly over
the whole yard and not in a line that would indicate old roots. Would
decaying mulch provide the same growing medium as decaying wood?


Very much so if the mulch contained chipped brash and if spread around the
yard it would probably have this effect.


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white mushrooms are from buried decaying wood.


True in many cases but not this one. These are coming up randomly over
the whole yard and not in a line that would indicate old roots. Would
decaying mulch provide the same growing medium as decaying wood?


Just wait. As the mushroom matures, it will fling out spoors in a circular
pattern. The next generation (in a couple of weeks or so) will be a "fairy
ring." Quite cute, actually.


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white mushrooms are from buried decaying wood.


True in many cases but not this one. These are coming up randomly over
the whole yard and not in a line that would indicate old roots. *Would
decaying mulch provide the same growing medium as decaying wood?

Red


I have them in mulch, so you have good soil thats moist and shady, you
are lucky.
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HeyBub wrote:
Red wrote:
On Aug 12, 3:18 pm, ransley wrote:

white mushrooms are from buried decaying wood.

True in many cases but not this one. These are coming up randomly over
the whole yard and not in a line that would indicate old roots. Would
decaying mulch provide the same growing medium as decaying wood?


Just wait. As the mushroom matures, it will fling out spoors in a circular
pattern. The next generation (in a couple of weeks or so) will be a "fairy
ring." Quite cute, actually.


AFAIK, the theory is that fairy ring mushrooms are the result of a
single organism (mycelium (sp?) rings a bell???) and the observable
mushrooms are simply reproductive bodies but the the reason for their
production in ring mushrooms isn't definitely understood. But, it isn't
that the spores of one generation form another in a circle around it.

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I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. The turf
was good but a little sparce. I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?

Red



Fungus is a good indicator you have plenty of organic matter, at least
in the locations where they are growing. At times I get a
brightly-colored slime mold over my lawn, more interesting than
harmful. Better to have toadstools (and rain) than a drought.


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I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. The turf
was good but a little sparce. I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?

Red


you've been giving too much fiber to your toads.


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On 8/14/2009 10:21 AM Phisherman spake thus:

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:48:24 -0700 (PDT), Red
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I always used a bagger on my lawn to avoid thatch problems. The turf
was good but a little sparce. I replaced my mower this spring and now
no longer have a bagger. The turf is somewhat thicker but I'm now
getting small white toadstools throughout the yard. Looks like mixed
signals to me. Are the toadstools an indicator of problems with thatch
and high southern humidity?


Fungus is a good indicator you have plenty of organic matter, at least
in the locations where they are growing. At times I get a
brightly-colored slime mold over my lawn, more interesting than
harmful. Better to have toadstools (and rain) than a drought.


'Round heah' (SF Bay Area East Bay), it's so dry that the trees are
following the dogs around, as they say.


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