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Perpetual motion - free energy
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , Winston wrote: Smitty Two wrote: In article , Winston wrote: Smitty Two wrote: (...) Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live long enough to see nuclear fusion ... Please don't look at it directly. http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg --Winston Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles long, heat-insulated at one end. *I know!* Let's convert the sun's energy at the point of origination into some kind of electromagnetically transmissible form. I'm thinking perhaps broadband radiation, bounded by IR and UV plus some gamma just to keep things from getting too staid. We could use the IR directly for space heat and for domestic hot water. We could grow some photosynthetic entities using the higher frequency radiation. We could eat some of the entities and convert others to biogas for storage and power. Is that too "over the top"? That'd never work. Oh. All right then. Sorry. --Winston |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/12/2009 3:49 PM Bob F spake thus: Ulysses wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it seriously. I thought that blocked gravity. You're thinking of upsidasium. I always thought perpetual motion came in the form of toddlers. TDD |
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On 8/12/2009 3:49 PM Bob F spake thus:
Ulysses wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it seriously. I thought that blocked gravity. You're thinking of upsidasium. -- Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism |
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Perpetual motion - free energy
On 8/13/2009 10:35 AM The Daring Dufas spake thus:
David Nebenzahl wrote: On 8/12/2009 3:49 PM Bob F spake thus: Ulysses wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it seriously. I thought that blocked gravity. You're thinking of upsidasium. I always thought perpetual motion came in the form of toddlers. I think that's why some folks refer to them as "tricycle motors". -- Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism |
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David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/13/2009 10:35 AM The Daring Dufas spake thus: David Nebenzahl wrote: On 8/12/2009 3:49 PM Bob F spake thus: Ulysses wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it seriously. I thought that blocked gravity. You're thinking of upsidasium. I always thought perpetual motion came in the form of toddlers. I think that's why some folks refer to them as "tricycle motors". Yea, the only problem is that they run wide open then suddenly conk out for hours at a time. TDD |
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Ulysses wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ... Larry The Snake Guy wrote: On Aug 11, 4:40 pm, dpb wrote: Ulysses wrote: I already live on a perpetual motion machine. Eh??? Well, it'll probably still be moving when the sun explodes, so I guess that's close to perpetual motion. Actually it's no "closer" than any other process--it follows same thermodynamic laws--it's just that the losses are relatively small with respect to the total mass. It (assuming the reference is to the earth I presume) _is_ slowing measurably albeit granted it's on a relatively long time frame. -- Well, maybe it's not pure perpetual motion, but it'll probably keep going longer than anyone will be around to see it finally stop. In any case, without visiting the link, I'm pretty sure it's closer than what they have. Whether anybody will be around is totally immaterial; the point is it really _isn't_ any "closer"; it's just a different system but 2nd law is 2nd law, no matter where (at least as far as we know, anyway). And, yes, the lure of perpetual motion and the simply naive as well as the charlatans have being touting solutions based on faulty premises using permanent magnets since about forever--that phenomenon may be the most perpetual of all. -- |
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BobR wrote:
In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. Bismuth, or any superconductor. HTH :-) Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote: BobR wrote: In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. Bismuth, or any superconductor. HTH :-) Bob OK, I picked up a can of bismuth and some magnets. Now where are those plans for my free energy device? |
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Perpetual motion - free energy
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , zxcvbob wrote: BobR wrote: In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. Bismuth, or any superconductor. HTH :-) Bob OK, I picked up a can of bismuth and some magnets. Now where are those plans for my free energy device? Yes, bismuth is diamagnetic and repels magnets (of either polarity), but rather weakly, with far less repulsive force than the attractive force of the same size magnet to a material such as iron. I built a magnetic levitator years ago which used bismuth. It's still standing amongst the clutter on my desk. http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/diamag.html Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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jeff_wisnia wrote in
eonecommunications: Smitty Two wrote: In article , zxcvbob wrote: BobR wrote: In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material exists. Bismuth, or any superconductor. HTH :-) Bob OK, I picked up a can of bismuth and some magnets. Now where are those plans for my free energy device? Yes, bismuth is diamagnetic and repels magnets (of either polarity), but rather weakly, with far less repulsive force than the attractive force of the same size magnet to a material such as iron. I built a magnetic levitator years ago which used bismuth. It's still standing amongst the clutter on my desk. http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/jeff/diamag.html Jeff I'm impressed Jeff...You can at least find your desk:-) |
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