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ben[_3_] July 28th 09 05:54 AM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
Some previous owner glued thin wood strips to the bathroom walls with
an adhesive. This has been falling off for years. I want to replace
it with clean painted walls. I have been trying to remove the
adhesive but continue to accidentally gouge the drywall in the
process.

The ceiling is fine shape. If I tear down all the drywall on the
walls, will I be able to get a good seam with the existing ceiling? I
know I would tape and mud the joint, but there will already be tape
and mud on the ceiling from the previous joint.

fftt July 28th 09 07:59 AM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
On Jul 27, 9:54*pm, ben wrote:
Some previous owner glued thin wood strips to the bathroom walls with
an adhesive. *This has been falling off for years. *I want to replace
it with clean painted walls. *I have been trying to remove the
adhesive but continue to accidentally gouge the drywall in the
process.

The ceiling is fine shape. *If I tear down all the drywall on the
walls, will I be able to get a good seam with the existing ceiling? *I
know I would tape and mud the joint, but there will already be tape
and mud on the ceiling from the previous joint.


Dont worry...razor knife the ceiling wall "corner" joint, replace the
wall drywall & re-tape / mud the new joint.

Are you sure that continuing to remove he adhesive & then using
drywall mud to repair gouges wouldnt be less work than total wall
replacement?


If the wall finish is going to be smooth you can easily mud & sand the
repairs to match "smooth". Otherwise you can do the repairs & re-
texture all the walls.

cheers
Bob


BillGill July 28th 09 02:07 PM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
fftt wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:54 pm, ben wrote:
Some previous owner glued thin wood strips to the bathroom walls with
an adhesive. This has been falling off for years. I want to replace
it with clean painted walls. I have been trying to remove the
adhesive but continue to accidentally gouge the drywall in the
process.

The ceiling is fine shape. If I tear down all the drywall on the
walls, will I be able to get a good seam with the existing ceiling? I
know I would tape and mud the joint, but there will already be tape
and mud on the ceiling from the previous joint.


Dont worry...razor knife the ceiling wall "corner" joint, replace the
wall drywall & re-tape / mud the new joint.

Are you sure that continuing to remove he adhesive & then using
drywall mud to repair gouges wouldnt be less work than total wall
replacement?


If the wall finish is going to be smooth you can easily mud & sand the
repairs to match "smooth". Otherwise you can do the repairs & re-
texture all the walls.

cheers
Bob

Repairing the old wallboard is what I did in my bath room. I scraped
the glue off as best I could, then did a skim coat of drywall mud over
the remaining gouges. It came out just fine. With a coat of paint the
marks aren't visible.

Bill

benick[_2_] July 28th 09 03:40 PM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 

"BillGill" wrote in message
...
fftt wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:54 pm, ben wrote:
Some previous owner glued thin wood strips to the bathroom walls with
an adhesive. This has been falling off for years. I want to replace
it with clean painted walls. I have been trying to remove the
adhesive but continue to accidentally gouge the drywall in the
process.

The ceiling is fine shape. If I tear down all the drywall on the
walls, will I be able to get a good seam with the existing ceiling? I
know I would tape and mud the joint, but there will already be tape
and mud on the ceiling from the previous joint.


Dont worry...razor knife the ceiling wall "corner" joint, replace the
wall drywall & re-tape / mud the new joint.

Are you sure that continuing to remove he adhesive & then using
drywall mud to repair gouges wouldnt be less work than total wall
replacement?


If the wall finish is going to be smooth you can easily mud & sand the
repairs to match "smooth". Otherwise you can do the repairs & re-
texture all the walls.

cheers
Bob

Repairing the old wallboard is what I did in my bath room. I scraped
the glue off as best I could, then did a skim coat of drywall mud over
the remaining gouges. It came out just fine. With a coat of paint the
marks aren't visible.

Bill


Yup I agree with Bill..the only thing I will add is that if you get any
bubbling up of furred paper just scrape it and hit it with mud again and
again as necessary...If it is a small wall(s) just skim it all to reduce
having to sand all the edges...Good luck with your project....


ben[_3_] July 28th 09 08:03 PM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
thanks for the responses.

I've been planning to just scrape it off and repair as you all
suggest. What's giving me pause is that it's a real wrist-breaker to
get it off. I'm using a putty knife to scrape it and wet it down with
a spray bottle to try and limit the amount of crap that flies all over
me when I do it. But it takes a long time to clear a small section.
Even though it's a tiny bathroom it will take many days to clear.
That got me started thinking maybe it was easier to re-drywall.

Any suggestions on how to better remove the adhesive? The glue is
dried to a dark brownish color.

Joe July 28th 09 08:27 PM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
On Jul 28, 2:03*pm, ben wrote:

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Any suggestions on how to better remove the adhesive? *The glue is dried to a dark brownish color.


If the entire wall is covered with the wood strips, don't waste any
more time on it. Pull down the old drywall, get it out to the curb and
put up new. For tips on how to do it, download the 300+ page pdf USG
Gypsum Construction Handbook or cruise the voluminous archives of this
NG. Good luck.

Joe


PatM July 28th 09 08:39 PM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
On Jul 28, 3:27*pm, Joe wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:03*pm, ben wrote:

snip
Any suggestions on how to better remove the adhesive? *The glue is dried to a dark brownish color.


If the entire wall is covered with the wood strips, don't waste any
more time on it. Pull down the old drywall, get it out to the curb and
put up new. For tips on how to do it, download the 300+ page pdf USG
Gypsum Construction Handbook or cruise the voluminous archives of this
NG. Good luck.

Joe


Another option, that is less work, is to put up new (thin) sheetrock
over the existing sheetrock. It saves the time and trouble of tearing
out the old stuff. Check your local yards and see what the thinnest
sheetrock you can get.

Phisherman[_2_] July 30th 09 12:01 AM

new drywall on walls but use existing ceiling?
 
On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:54:19 -0700 (PDT), ben
wrote:

Some previous owner glued thin wood strips to the bathroom walls with
an adhesive. This has been falling off for years. I want to replace
it with clean painted walls. I have been trying to remove the
adhesive but continue to accidentally gouge the drywall in the
process.

The ceiling is fine shape. If I tear down all the drywall on the
walls, will I be able to get a good seam with the existing ceiling? I
know I would tape and mud the joint, but there will already be tape
and mud on the ceiling from the previous joint.


Sure. I would expect to see a gap where the walls meet the ceiling.
Clean out any loose mud. You can pre-fill larger gaps with Sheetrock
90 joint compound, then the next day smooth it out and embed paper
tape in regular joint compound in the corner. You will have to apply
2-3 layers of joint compound, but do only one side of a corner per day
to prevent damaging the other side. It is a time-consuming somewhat
tedious process and you will do a better job with some patience. Use
a work lamp to carefully inspect your work--there are many more flaws
than you can see.


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