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I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both
water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... |
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:35:07 -0400, blueman wrote:
I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... It's for the children. http://www.handiramp.com/WW-Covers.htm |
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Oren writes:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:35:07 -0400, blueman wrote: I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... It's for the children. http://www.handiramp.com/WW-Covers.htm This solution seems to be based around a metal grate which would obviously not keep water/snow out. Also, it seems mostly designed to protect people from falling into below ground window wells. My well is maybe only 2-3 inches below grade so I don't need the safety part as much as the weather & window protection. |
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blueman wrote: Oren writes: On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:35:07 -0400, blueman wrote: I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... It's for the children. http://www.handiramp.com/WW-Covers.htm This solution seems to be based around a metal grate which would obviously not keep water/snow out. Also, it seems mostly designed to protect people from falling into below ground window wells. My well is maybe only 2-3 inches below grade so I don't need the safety part as much as the weather & window protection. All right, here you go. Keep in mind I've only had one cup of coffee so far ... Take one of those giant inflatable exercise balls, and cover it with a few layers of fiberglass, or carbon fiber pre-preg if you're really ambitious. Then saw it into quarters, and you've got four strong, lightweight, frameless window well guards. |
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on 7/9/2009 4:35 PM (ET) blueman wrote the following:
I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. I like your lean-to idea, but I would just get the 1/4" lexan sheets and the appropriate lexan cement and glue the slant top to the sides. I would also put a 2" wide lexan brace across the back top, where the lean-to sits against the wall, for side to side strength. But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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willshak writes:
on 7/9/2009 4:35 PM (ET) blueman wrote the following: I need a basement window well cover to provide protection from both water/snow and from stray basketballs (the windows are near our basketball hoop). I have previously purchased the "better" quality MacCourt plastic well covers at Lowes but despite their 10 year warranty, they tend to shatter after a couple of winters and repeated basketball strikes. Plus they aren't particularly nice looking or sturdy and they don't fit that great (since they are 1 size fits all...) So, I am looking for suggestions on how to build my own custom window well covers. I would like to satisfy the following design parameters: - Keep (most) water/snow out - Strong enough not to be damaged by basketball impact (and other things kids do) - Able to survive many heat/thaw cycles (New England winters & summers) - Let maximum light in - Look good on an Italian mansard house - Easy to move/remove to get access to the well but solid enough not to be budged by snow or errant basketballs I have been thinking of building a lean-two like frame out of 1x1 PT wood and then cover it with Lexan. I like your lean-to idea, but I would just get the 1/4" lexan sheets and the appropriate lexan cement and glue the slant top to the sides. I would also put a 2" wide lexan brace across the back top, where the lean-to sits against the wall, for side to side strength. I think you are right -- over the weekend I was mulling over it and realized it would be a much neater design to eliminate the wood frame and just have a nice transparent Lexan/plexiglass frame. I'm now debating between using thinner (but stronger) Lexan sheets vs. thicker Plexiglass sheets to get the same overall strength. Plexiglass tends to be cheaper plus the thicker sheets should give a stronger/broader glue line. Any thoughts? But I would love to hear alternatives plus get more detailed suggestions on design & materials including what to use for the frame, what to use for the skin, what fasteners, etc... -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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blueman wrote:
-snip- I'm now debating between using thinner (but stronger) Lexan sheets vs. thicker Plexiglass sheets to get the same overall strength. Plexiglass tends to be cheaper plus the thicker sheets should give a stronger/broader glue line. Any thoughts? I haven't compared them in a long time, and all plexi-glass is not created equal. . . but . . . When I last looked plexi was more likely to scratch and yellow in sunlight than Lexan--- but the solvent glue for plexi was stronger. Check with a window place- they can probably give you a better deal than the big-box store and you can get some nice clean cuts on it. I'd lean towards screwing the plastic to an aluminum frame. Aluminum angle is less obtrusive and stronger than lumber. A bead of silicon should waterproof it, and if that basketball breaks one panel you don't have to start over. Jim |
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Jim Elbrecht wrote:
blueman wrote: -snip- I'm now debating between using thinner (but stronger) Lexan sheets vs. thicker Plexiglass sheets to get the same overall strength. Plexiglass tends to be cheaper plus the thicker sheets should give a stronger/broader glue line. Any thoughts? I haven't compared them in a long time, and all plexi-glass is not created equal. . . but . . . When I last looked plexi was more likely to scratch and yellow in sunlight than Lexan--- but the solvent glue for plexi was stronger. Check with a window place- they can probably give you a better deal than the big-box store and you can get some nice clean cuts on it. I'd lean towards screwing the plastic to an aluminum frame. Aluminum angle is less obtrusive and stronger than lumber. A bead of silicon should waterproof it, and if that basketball breaks one panel you don't have to start over. Jim Sudden visual pops into my head- what a way to recycle the pilot canopies from the Viper fighter craft off Battlestar Galactica. -- aem sends... |
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had one of these troubles once, added drainage to the windowell, and a
metal grate from a steel supplier, it lays just in the well. all of your specks fail to mention ventilation a important detail at times |
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