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mg June 22nd 09 04:32 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?
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RicodJour June 22nd 09 04:41 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
On Jun 22, 11:32*am, mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


Deck screws hold the best, but it's your call about whether the
different fastener heads would look objectionable or not. As an
alternative you could take out the offending nails, coat a couple of
toothpicks with exterior wood glue and insert them into the hole
before hammering the nail back into place.

R

Jim Yanik June 22nd 09 05:15 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
mg wrote in
:

There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


use deck screws.

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Bob F June 22nd 09 06:36 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


If this is an older deck, it could be a sign that the underlying wood is
rotting.



stan June 22nd 09 08:06 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
On Jun 22, 3:36*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.


Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?


Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


If this is an older deck, it could be a sign that the underlying wood is
rotting.


Our deck was built with mainly hot galvanized nails, some 20 years
ago. A few planks were screwed down for easier access underneath (cos
the deck is an average of 15 inches above ground) It has P.Treated 2
by 8 joists on very substantial underpinnings and is also planked with
PT 2 by 8.
It hasn't had any such 'nail popping' problems. But if was building
today would use proper 'decking screws'. Try a few screws as
replacements of popped nails and see if the underpinnings are still
intact enough to take the fasteners ........... or if not maybe
something starting to rot or shift?

Bob F June 22nd 09 08:54 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
stan wrote:
On Jun 22, 3:36 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down.
The boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or
warped. But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they
are back up.


Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?


Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


If this is an older deck, it could be a sign that the underlying
wood is rotting.


Our deck was built with mainly hot galvanized nails, some 20 years
ago. A few planks were screwed down for easier access underneath (cos
the deck is an average of 15 inches above ground) It has P.Treated 2
by 8 joists on very substantial underpinnings and is also planked with
PT 2 by 8.
It hasn't had any such 'nail popping' problems. But if was building
today would use proper 'decking screws'. Try a few screws as
replacements of popped nails and see if the underpinnings are still
intact enough to take the fasteners ........... or if not maybe
something starting to rot or shift?


If you live in Arizona, and the OP lives in Oregon, deck life expectancies are
considerably different.



EXT June 22nd 09 10:58 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
Hipupchuck wrote:
mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down.
The boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or
warped. But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they
are back up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


You can get some long drywall screws.


They will rust in no time.

Jim Yanik June 22nd 09 11:30 PM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
Hipupchuck wrote in news:dZidnZ30_-
:

mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


You can get some long drywall screws.


which may have their heads twist off trying to go thru wood that's tougher
than drywall. plus coated deck screws will not rust like drywall screws.

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Bob F June 23rd 09 12:27 AM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
Hipupchuck wrote:
mg wrote:
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down.
The boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or
warped. But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they
are back up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


You can get some long drywall screws.


Do NOT do this. Drywall screws will break easily, and rust out quickly.




Ed Pawlowski June 23rd 09 02:47 AM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 

"mg" wrote in message
...
There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?




Deck screws www.mcfeelys.com for some good information about them.
McFeely's carries some very good screws that don't break like some of the
junk at the big box stores.



Red Green June 23rd 09 02:54 AM

Spiral nails pulling out of deck
 
mg wrote in
:

There are 6 or 8 spiral nails on our deck that will not stay down. The
boards are flat on the deck and do not appear to be cupped or warped.
But, within about 3 months of driving the nails down, they are back
up.

Should I pull the nails and replace them with the next size larger
spiral nail?

Should I pull the nails and replace them with coated deck screws?


If you want to stay with nails then use 16d spirals in new holes. My guess
would be the deck joists are soft or chewed at that spot. Are the
particular ones even hitting a joist? Take a gander underneath (aka crawl
and get really dirty) if you really want to know. If it appears the nail is
not biting and it's not for a goofy reason like they're 8d's, you could
sister or scab a PT 2x4 on the existing joist and renail.


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