I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house. A simple circuit
tester, when hooked to the black and white wires going to a switch shows
that I have 120V (based on an LED on the tester, not an exact
measurement). The black and whites coming out of the ceiling show the same
result. When I flip the switch on and off, the circuit tester at the
ceiling goes on and off. All is good, right?

However, when I hook up a simple bulb fixture to the ceiling, it doe not
turn on. Tried different bulbs, fixtures. Wall is hot, switch is working,
ceiling is hot, but no lights.

This fixture was functional and then started flickering intermittently and
then ceased to function. There was a leak from the roof in the floor above
that was fixed around that time, but not sure if it is related. . . Any
ideas?
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On Jun 12, 6:57*pm,
(insaneelectic) wrote:
I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house. A simple circuit
tester, when hooked to the black and white wires going to a switch shows
that I have 120V (based on an LED on the tester, not an exact
measurement). The black and whites coming out of the ceiling show the same
result. When I flip the switch on and off, the circuit tester at the
ceiling goes on and off. All is good, right?

However, when I hook up a simple bulb fixture to the ceiling, it doe not
turn on. Tried different bulbs, fixtures. Wall is hot, switch is working,
ceiling is hot, but no lights.

This fixture was functional and then started flickering intermittently and
then ceased to function. There was a leak from the roof in the floor above
that was fixed around that time, but not sure if it is related. . . Any
ideas?
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High impedance meters and those LED testers can give false
indications. I use a tester made with an incandescent lamp.

Jimmie

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(insaneelectic) wrote:


I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house.

Yer gonna have a ridiculous problem with yo face if you don't stop
spamming us from your sucko company.

insaneelectic had written this in response to
http://thestuccocompany.com/maintena...ht-378326-.htm
:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.


Smitty Two wrote:




I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house.

Yer gonna have a ridiculous problem with yo face if you don't stop
spamming us from your sucko company.


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On Jun 12, 9:23*pm,
(insaneelectic) wrote:
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*:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.

Smitty Two wrote:

I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house.
Yer gonna have a ridiculous problem with yo face if you don't stop
spamming us from your sucko company.

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As Jimmie pointed out, with a high impedance tester you can measure
120V with no load, but that doesn't mean there is still 120V there
when you put the load (bulb) in the circuit. Imagine you had a 100K
ohm resistor in series with the hot lead. That could be the case with
a bad connection, switch, etc. If you use your high impedance
tester, you will measure 120V at the end of the hot wire. But put
the bulb there and you will be measuring very little, because the
voltage is now divided between the 100K resistor and the bulb, with
almost all of it being across the resistor, not the bulb.

Try measuring the voltage with the bulb in place and you will likely
find it closer to 0 than 120V.

insaneelectic had written this in response to
http://thestuccocompany.com/maintena...ht-378345-.htm
:
I actually tested the voltage with the bulb in and the tester between the
white line out of the fixture and the white wire out of the ceiling, and
still got 120V. Is this what you would expect?

If so, what could be the problem here?
wrote:

On Jun 12, 9:23=A0pm,
(insaneelectic) wrote:
insaneelectic had written this in response
tohttp://thestuccocompany.com/=
maintenance/Re-power-in-circuit-bulb-does...
=A0:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.

Smitty Two wrote:

I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house.
Yer gonna have a ridiculous problem with yo face if you don't
stop
spamming us from your sucko company.

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As Jimmie pointed out, with a high impedance tester you can measure
120V with no load, but that doesn't mean there is still 120V there
when you put the load (bulb) in the circuit. Imagine you had a 100K
ohm resistor in series with the hot lead. That could be the case with
a bad connection, switch, etc. If you use your high impedance
tester, you will measure 120V at the end of the hot wire. But put
the bulb there and you will be measuring very little, because the
voltage is now divided between the 100K resistor and the bulb, with
almost all of it being across the resistor, not the bulb.

Try measuring the voltage with the bulb in place and you will likely
find it closer to 0 than 120V.


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In article
,
wrote:


A reply to spam. The stucco company thanks you for reposting their phony
spam post with their company link. Again.

In article ,
(insaneelectic) wrote:

insaneelectic had written this in response to
http://the****wadcompany.com/mainten...-doesn-t-light
-378326-.htm
:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.


My reply wasn't meant to be helpful. You're posting from a very
unwelcome SPAM website. You, and they, can go **** sheep.

On Jun 13, 5:46*am, wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:38:44 -0700, Smitty Two

wrote:
In article ,
(insaneelectic) wrote:

insaneelectic had written this in response to
http://the****wadcompany.com/mainten...rcuit-bulb-doe....
-378326-.htm
*:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.

My reply wasn't meant to be helpful. You're posting from a very
unwelcome SPAM website. You, and they, can go **** sheep.

*** P L O N K *** * *** P L O N K *** * *** P L O N K ***

The OP is answering their own question or merely asking the question
when well knowing the answer!
Kinda pointless it seems. Let's ignore it.

On Jun 12, 10:37*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

wrote:

A reply to spam. The stucco company thanks you for reposting their phony
spam post with their company link. Again.

Who the hell appointed you to determine which questions deserve a
response? So, the question came in via another website forum.
I've seen that happen both here and other newsgroups. There are
legitimate website forums that offer a portal to newsgroups.

And YOU were one of the first people to respond to it yourself. If
you think it's spam, then you are only drawing more attention to it
and making it stay around longer by doing so.

On Jun 12, 10:03*pm,
(insaneelectic) wrote:
insaneelectic had written this in response tohttp://thestuccocompany.com/maintenance/Re-power-in-circuit-bulb-does...
*:
I actually tested the voltage with the bulb in and the tester between the
white line out of the fixture and the white wire out of the ceiling, and
still got 120V. Is this what you would expect?

If so, what could be the problem here?



You don't measure the voltage with the tester in series with the
load. You measure the voltage across the load. If you measure
voltage in series like you did, you're going to get 120V and the bulb
won't light, because, again, the tester is high impedance.









wrote:
On Jun 12, 9:23=A0pm,
(insaneelectic) wrote:
insaneelectic had written this in response
tohttp://thestuccocompany.com/=
maintenance/Re-power-in-circuit-bulb-does...
=A0:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.

Smitty Two wrote:

I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house.
Yer gonna have a ridiculous problem with yo face if you don't
stop
spamming us from your sucko company.

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As Jimmie pointed out, with a high impedance tester you can measure
120V with no load, but that doesn't mean there is still 120V there
when you put the load (bulb) in the circuit. * Imagine you had a 100K
ohm resistor in series with the hot lead. *That could be the case with
a bad connection, switch, etc. * *If you use your high impedance
tester, you will measure 120V at the end of the hot wire. * But put
the bulb there and you will be measuring very little, because the
voltage is now divided between the 100K resistor and the bulb, with
almost all of it being across the resistor, not the bulb.
Try measuring the voltage with the bulb in place and you will likely
find it closer to 0 than 120V.

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Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
(insaneelectic) wrote:

insaneelectic had written this in response to
http://the****wadcompany.com/mainten...-doesn-t-light
-378326-.htm
:
Wow, thanks for your very helpful response.


My reply wasn't meant to be helpful. You're posting from a very
unwelcome SPAM website. You, and they, can go **** sheep.

If you really meant "SPAM," then you're the spammer, publicizing as you did
a SPiced hAM product by using the trademark of the Hormel Meat Company. If,
on the other hand, you meant "spam," then, that's okay.

On 12 Jun 2009 22:57:50 GMT,
(insaneelectic) wrote:


I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house. A simple circuit
tester, when hooked to the black and white wires going to a switch shows
that I have 120V (based on an LED on the tester, not an exact
measurement). The black and whites coming out of the ceiling show the same
result. When I flip the switch on and off, the circuit tester at the
ceiling goes on and off. All is good, right?

However, when I hook up a simple bulb fixture to the ceiling, it doe not
turn on. Tried different bulbs, fixtures. Wall is hot, switch is working,
ceiling is hot, but no lights.

This fixture was functional and then started flickering intermittently and
then ceased to function. There was a leak from the roof in the floor above
that was fixed around that time, but not sure if it is related. . . Any
ideas?
-------------------------------------


If the wire to that fixture is not connected to a hot circuit
and if it runs along a circuit that is live, it can pick up the
voltage, but not any significant amperage. Modern meters can measure
that voltage, while older analog meters would not.

In article
,
wrote:

On Jun 12, 10:37*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

wrote:

A reply to spam. The stucco company thanks you for reposting their phony
spam post with their company link. Again.

Who the hell appointed you to determine which questions deserve a
response? So, the question came in via another website forum.
I've seen that happen both here and other newsgroups. There are
legitimate website forums that offer a portal to newsgroups.

And YOU were one of the first people to respond to it yourself. If
you think it's spam, then you are only drawing more attention to it
and making it stay around longer by doing so.

I've been fighting this phony stucco company for quite a while. It's a
dangerous precedent. All of the early posts were fake, shill posts by
the owners of the site. And many of the current ones are, too. It's
clearly commercial advertising on usenet, which is not a taboo that I
created. And I've seen many helpful regulars here spend quite a bit of
personal effort to "help" a phony poster. If we can't even sort the
legitimate posts from the fake ones, what's the point?

It's viral advertising. Every respondent ends up reposting their site
link which is embedded in the OP. Every post ends up on the internet,
and raises the company's ranking in google searches. Now some jackass
who doesn't know usenet from a bowl of wheaties comes along and DAGS a
home repair question and finds them, and becomes an unwitting shill for
them.

And every time any one of you chimes in, you compound the problem. We
had another website try to follow in the stucco company's footsteps, and
I think that by telling them to go to hell early enough and often
enough, they stopped. They even stooped to blatantly plagiarizing an
entire legitimate post, verbatim, and reposting it as though it was an
original, legitimate question. That was just a couple of weeks ago.

Here's another issue. Remember that when google started porting the
newsgroups, all the ****ing spam started coming from there. If the
stucco company gains a big enough foothold here, then others will
follow, and then spam will come from all over hell.

Learn to post to Usenet the regular way, not Sucko company.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"insaneelectic"
wrote in message
m...

I have a ridiculous problem with a circuit in my house. A
simple circuit
tester, when hooked to the black and white wires going to a
switch shows
that I have 120V (based on an LED on the tester, not an
exact
measurement). The black and whites coming out of the ceiling
show the same
result. When I flip the switch on and off, the circuit
tester at the
ceiling goes on and off. All is good, right?

However, when I hook up a simple bulb fixture to the
ceiling, it doe not
turn on. Tried different bulbs, fixtures. Wall is hot,
switch is working,
ceiling is hot, but no lights.

This fixture was functional and then started flickering
intermittently and
then ceased to function. There was a leak from the roof in
the floor above
that was fixed around that time, but not sure if it is
related. . . Any
ideas?
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In article , "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
Learn to post to Usenet the regular way, not Sucko company.

And *you* need to learn to trim posts -- you reposted the entire thing,
including the link to the spammer's web site. Idiot.

Hmm. You know, you're right. Of course, I'm obliged to call
you a name in return, you big usenet poster.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
And *you* need to learn to trim posts -- you reposted the
entire thing,
including the link to the spammer's web site. Idiot.

"insaneelectic" wrote:


I have a ridiculous problem with semen dripping out of my anus. My
boyfriend at the stuckocompany tells me it's not his fault, what do I do?

Tell your boyfriend down at the SUCKO company to **** off, and take you with
him you SPAMming piece of ****!

Jon