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I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way
a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? Thanks, Larry |
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"GoHabsGo" wrote in message
05.209... You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? 1. Advisers cannot help much since the OP did not say how the house is built (masonry, framed timber etc.) or how old. 2. The brace for a telescoping antenna carries no weight (except itself) so can be fairlly light. It needs only sufficient strength to resist maximum winds. The municipal building permits office may have free advice about this. 3. It is notoriously unsafe to work under the eaves from atop a roof, working upside down. When a carpenter put an extra window under my eaves he brought his own scaffold, about 4 x 6 ft. footprint, and took it up to 20 ft. height in less than 10 minutes. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) It is notoriously unsafe to fasten |
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GoHabsGo wrote:
wrote in : On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? with the telescoping antenna you can work on it with ease and then raise it up one section at a time till it is fully extended. much easier and safer than trying to do what you envision. good luck,. |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:51:44 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo
wrote: wrote in : On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? Thanks, Larry Well I have installed a similar sized TV antenna with the eave mount brackets on a 1995 vinyl sided house. Wood was underneath. I used a five foot mast pipe and separated the two brackets by about 12 inches. It is holding up well. I would try to get as much separation as possible between the brackets. |
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Larry,
First off you may wish to start with this: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Welcome.aspx Also you may wish to consider that the neighborhood can't prevent you from erecting a tower if that is your desire, federal law trumps local ordinance here unless you do not own your back yard. Good luck. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. "GoHabsGo" wrote in message 05.209... I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry |
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have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? Round here, fascia construction is a 2x4 nailed to the ends of the rafter tails, with a 3/8x6 piece of decorative trim on top. You'll hit the 2x4 no matter where you put in a screw (as long as you stay in the upper 3.5 inches), but it's better to hit the rafter tails so you can use really long screws. There'll be a tail on either side of the peak. Look for nails in the decorative fascia for a clue to the exact location. Some higher-end houses have actual 2x6 or 2x8 boards with no decorative layer. I would still hit the rafter tails. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX USA |
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FreeTheBirthCert wrote:
GoHabsGo wrote: wrote in : On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? with the telescoping antenna you can work on it with ease and then raise it up one section at a time till it is fully extended. much easier and safer than trying to do what you envision. good luck,. He still needs to attach it to the fly rafter on the gable, which is apparently close to three stories off the ground. (2 story over walkout basement, pretty common around here.) -- aem sends... |
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GoHabsGo wrote:
I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. |
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aemeijers wrote:
FreeTheBirthCert wrote: GoHabsGo wrote: wrote in : On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:37:49 +0000 (UTC), GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? with the telescoping antenna you can work on it with ease and then raise it up one section at a time till it is fully extended. much easier and safer than trying to do what you envision. good luck,. He still needs to attach it to the fly rafter on the gable, which is apparently close to three stories off the ground. (2 story over walkout basement, pretty common around here.) -- aem sends... or attach it on the one story side where it will be easy. |
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. |
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Tom Oska wrote:
"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. Hi, With a rotor? OP said he needs rotor. |
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I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. *There is no way
a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. *I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. *I don't have a chimney. *The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. *The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. *Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. *Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry On Jun 5, 9:26 pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Larry, First off you may wish to start with this:http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Welcome.aspx Also you may wish to consider that the neighborhood can't prevent you from erecting a tower if that is your desire, federal law trumps local ordinance here unless you do not own your back yard. Good luck. -- Roger Shoaf Roger That is either wishful thinking or bad information or both. There simply is no federal law that prevents localities from regulating antennas. The FCC rule only requires "reasonable accommodation" and that provides a lot of wiggle room for the locality to limit what you do. Even States like Pennsylvania, that have passed a protective law, still require permits and limit the protection to structures of a particular height or less. -- Tom Horne, W3TDH |
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. Hi, With a rotor? OP said he needs rotor. Why not ? The antenna is only about 3'x4'. There may be enough room to mount it. That is if the house does not have a conductive roof. |
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: "GoHabsGo" wrote in message 05.209... You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? 1. Advisers cannot help much since the OP did not say how the house is built (masonry, framed timber etc.) or how old. Wood framed house with brick on lower half and vinyl siding on the top half. House was built in 2001 in Southern Ontario (Canada). 2. The brace for a telescoping antenna carries no weight (except itself) so can be fairlly light. It needs only sufficient strength to resist maximum winds. The municipal building permits office may have free advice about this. I want a minimalistic mount, yet strong enough to support the antenna and rotor. This telescoping antenna would stand out a little too much, in my view (and my wife's also). 3. It is notoriously unsafe to work under the eaves from atop a roof, working upside down. When a carpenter put an extra window under my eaves he brought his own scaffold, about 4 x 6 ft. footprint, and took it up to 20 ft. height in less than 10 minutes. I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. How long do ladders come? I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. |
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"Tom Oska" wrote in
: "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. There is plenty of space to mount it in the attic, however, my location relative to the transmission towers is at the outer fringe, so I think for most consistent reception, I will need to go outside. |
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Tony Hwang wrote in
: Tom Oska wrote: "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. I don't have a chimney. The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. Hi, With a rotor? OP said he needs rotor. Yes, I do have space, even with a rotor but want to go outside due to distance factor. |
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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in
m: "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. Hi, With a rotor? OP said he needs rotor. Why not ? The antenna is only about 3'x4'. There may be enough room to mount it. That is if the house does not have a conductive roof. Roof is asphalt shingles. |
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GoHabsGo wrote:
"Don Phillipson" wrote in : "GoHabsGo" wrote in message 05.209... You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? 1. Advisers cannot help much since the OP did not say how the house is built (masonry, framed timber etc.) or how old. Wood framed house with brick on lower half and vinyl siding on the top half. House was built in 2001 in Southern Ontario (Canada). 2. The brace for a telescoping antenna carries no weight (except itself) so can be fairlly light. It needs only sufficient strength to resist maximum winds. The municipal building permits office may have free advice about this. I want a minimalistic mount, yet strong enough to support the antenna and rotor. This telescoping antenna would stand out a little too much, in my view (and my wife's also). 3. It is notoriously unsafe to work under the eaves from atop a roof, working upside down. When a carpenter put an extra window under my eaves he brought his own scaffold, about 4 x 6 ft. footprint, and took it up to 20 ft. height in less than 10 minutes. I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. How long do ladders come? I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. does she have a good insurance policy on you? |
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GoHabsGo wrote:
"Don Phillipson" wrote in : "GoHabsGo" wrote in message 05.209... You also have the option of using a telescoping mast pipe that could be secured at the ground and at the top. http://www.lnl.com/lnl/mtghdwre.tam Thanks for the suggestion but that's kind of out of the question for my situation. While it may work, I still have the issue of how do I attach it at the top? If that is answered, I think I could use that eave mount kit on that web site you referred to above. The peak of my gable is way up there. I have a 24' ladder and I'm sure it's at least ten feed short for the peak. I will likely need to go to the adjacent side and put the ladder on the deck so it can reach the low end of the gable, climb on the roof and reach over the side to attach. I just need to be sure there is something solid there to bolt into. Anyone have information on typical roof construction? Will there be a 2x8 facia on the gable, under the siding? 1. Advisers cannot help much since the OP did not say how the house is built (masonry, framed timber etc.) or how old. Wood framed house with brick on lower half and vinyl siding on the top half. House was built in 2001 in Southern Ontario (Canada). 2. The brace for a telescoping antenna carries no weight (except itself) so can be fairlly light. It needs only sufficient strength to resist maximum winds. The municipal building permits office may have free advice about this. I want a minimalistic mount, yet strong enough to support the antenna and rotor. This telescoping antenna would stand out a little too much, in my view (and my wife's also). 3. It is notoriously unsafe to work under the eaves from atop a roof, working upside down. When a carpenter put an extra window under my eaves he brought his own scaffold, about 4 x 6 ft. footprint, and took it up to 20 ft. height in less than 10 minutes. I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. How long do ladders come? I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. If this is a one-time job, and if you have a way to haul it, you can rent a long ladder for a day pretty cheap. Good long ladders are expensive. -- aem sends... |
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"GoHabsGo" wrote in message I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. How long do ladders come? I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. You may want to rent a one man lift, may be referred to as a cherry picker. Also look at finding someone that has a bucket truck that will install the antenna for you. |
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GoHabsGo wrote:
Yes, I do have space, even with a rotor but want to go outside due to distance factor. I doubt you'd encounter a detectable difference between an antenna in the attic and one mounted above the roof. The difference in height would be, what, four feet? |
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On Jun 7, 11:19�am, "HeyBub" wrote:
GoHabsGo wrote: Yes, I do have space, even with a rotor but want to go outside due to distance factor. I doubt you'd encounter a detectable difference between an antenna in the attic and one mounted above the roof. The difference in height would be, what, four feet? Under roof costs about a 30% signal loss thru normal plywood sheathing and shingles. Add rain or snow even greater loss, espically bad with digital signals....... Outside is the only weay to go! and add rotor for most reliable reception |
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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in
: "GoHabsGo" wrote in message I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. How long do ladders come? I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. You may want to rent a one man lift, may be referred to as a cherry picker. Also look at finding someone that has a bucket truck that will install the antenna for you. I did think about this option but access to the side of the house is impossible due to obstructions, slope, neighbor's house. If I can find a 40ft ladder with 'wings' it would do the trick. |
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On Jun 8, 9:34�am, GoHabsGo wrote:
"Ralph Mowery" wrote : "GoHabsGo" wrote in message I'm considering getting a longer ladder with stand-off braces. �How long do ladders come? �I think I may reach with a 36' ladder but a little longer would definitely be better. You may want to rent a one man lift, may be referred to as a cherry picker. Also look at finding someone that has a bucket truck that will install the antenna for you. I did think about this option but access to the side of the house is impossible due to obstructions, slope, neighbor's house. �If I can find a 40ft ladder with 'wings' it would do the trick. given the obstructed site and lack of experience and proper tools why not get a quote from a experienced installer? might save lots of effort and risk. |
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On Jun 7, 6:47*am, GoHabsGo wrote:
"Tom Oska" wrote : "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. *There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. *I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. *I don't have a chimney. *The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. *The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. *Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. *Would it be possible to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. There is plenty of space to mount it in the attic, however, my location relative to the transmission towers is at the outer fringe, so I think for most consistent reception, I will need to go outside. Just put it on the peak of your roof, and screw it into the rafters / trusses thru the shingles. closer to the peak mean less water run off from above, pre drill the holes and fill them with some good goop then bolt a tripod stand down. if you goop it well, it shouldn't leak for a while, check it once a year and your good. ps.. go leafs. |
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Zephyr wrote in
: On Jun 7, 6:47*am, GoHabsGo wrote: "Tom Oska" wrote innews:_TwWl.63257$fo6.35897@en-nntp-09 .dc1.easynews.com: "Tony Hwang" wrote in message ... GoHabsGo wrote: I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. *There is no way a tower would go over in my neighborhood, so let's not get into that discussion. *I would like to mount the antenna near the peak. *I don't have a chimney. *The house is quite high being a two storey house plus the basement is only half buried. *The peak of the house has a gable end at both sides. Looking at the construction from the inside, I can't really tell if the eave is sturdy or not since they have boxed it in all the way to the roof. I kind of want to avoid installing anything that will penetrate the shingles, but have seen the Commdeck mounting device which looks intriguing. *Any users out there? My first thought was to get an eave mount kit which consists of a bracket at the peak and a longer bracket lower down which spans from one eave to the other and the antenna mast attaches to the middle of both brackets. How would I attach that to the eave, and how can I tell if the eave is strong enough to hold it? I was also considering a J-mount, like one that is used for satellite dishes but don't think that the eave is wide enough to mount it vertically in any spot near the peak. *Would it be possibl e to mount a J-mount to the side of the house - there are 2x8's vertically at intervals in the gable end, but the exterior is finished with vinyl siding. Any other ideas are welcome but keep in mind that this antenna is about 41" x 33" and I also want to mount a rotor on this mount. Let me know how you would attack this task! Thanks, Larry Hi, Once I had an antenna on top of 2 story house roof. I built a platform to straddle ridge at the center, used a tripod and mast. had to use 3 guy wires of light aircraft steel cable with small turn buckles etc. This set up lasted LONG time(~20 years) until I sold the house. The antenna was two element tri-bander quad for ham radio with a rotor. Space in the attic? That's where mine is located. There is plenty of space to mount it in the attic, however, my location relative to the transmission towers is at the outer fringe, so I think for most consistent reception, I will need to go outside. Just put it on the peak of your roof, and screw it into the rafters / trusses thru the shingles. closer to the peak mean less water run off from above, pre drill the holes and fill them with some good goop then bolt a tripod stand down. if you goop it well, it shouldn't leak for a while, check it once a year and your good. With freezing, thawing, wind, rain, snow attacking those holes, it is only a matter of time before it will leak. It is almost guaranteed to do so. I will avoid any penetration of my shingles for this reason. I had a previous installation of a dish on my previous home's roof that was all gooped up and still leaked. ps.. go leafs. If I was a Leaf fan, I would be good to go with my CBC HD transmission from the CN Tower. At least I'll see them play the Habs a few times a year. Larry |
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"GoHabsGo" wrote in message 05.209... I need to mount my new TV antenna on my house. I used a "tripod" mount on my roof. It's held in place by three good sized wood screws through the singles and roof sheathing. One leg of the tripod is held to the angle bracket via a bolt and nut. When you put a mast on the tripod you can remove that bolt and tilt it over. One person can install things if you have a board to keep the system from completely flopping over in "tilt" mode. I have a 6' mast in the tripod with a rotator and another 6' mast with antenna. Because of overlap, etc. the antenna is about 11' above the ridge. I used sealing compound under the bracket and over the "lag screw." You don't really have to worry much about roof leaks from holes near the ridge because there just isn't much water up there. It's toward the bottom that you have to be careful about holes in the shingles. I am a nut for grounding. I have #6 copper running from the tripod and mast to both ends of the ridge and into separate grounds which are also bonded to the house ground. I used RG-59 but I will soon replace it with RG-6 to get a little more signal. There are tall trees around our property and our antenna still isn't high enough. Maybe I will put in a 10' mast and have a more direct run when I put in the RG-6. With the transition to digital, I fear I may end up with less stations because I can't get reliable service on the digital version of several channels. (We are about 60-70 miles from the transmitter towers.) |
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