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WhiteTea May 20th 09 04:38 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.

Thanks,

Andy

SteveBell[_2_] May 20th 09 04:46 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


That's the easiest way to run the wires, especially if the system was
installed after the house was built.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


That should work. Make sure the line is good all the way back to the
controller.

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


I think you left something out of that sentence. I'll assume you mean
"...way to make the house secure other than...".

I always recommend _against_ installing pet doors. People fit though
lots of them just fine. If a person won't fit through, the burglar can
always fit extension tools through. Unfortunately, I'm not always
successful in talking people out of the installation, so I put it in
anyway.

If the doggie doors are installed in people doors, The cheapest
solution is to get new people doors. If the doggie doors are in a wall,
you'll need to add some 2x4 framing and wall covering.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

Freckles[_3_] May 20th 09 04:50 AM

Alarm system help needed
 

"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.

Thanks,

Andy


Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.

Freckles.



WhiteTea May 20th 09 05:05 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 19, 9:50*pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message

...



I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.

Freckles.


That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?

Andy

Freckles[_3_] May 20th 09 12:00 PM

Alarm system help needed
 

"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
On May 19, 9:50 pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message

...



I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the
doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.

Freckles.


That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?

Andy

If you secured your dogs in another room whenever you have your alarm on
then you could have the motion detectors located low enough to sense a
crawling intruder, be it man or beast.



Stormin Mormon May 20th 09 02:22 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
Any other way to...... ??? what ???

You mention testing wires, and then you mention dog doors.
What do you want to do?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one
time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were
pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and
opening/closing
each door and window?

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough
for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from
that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie"
doors.

Thanks,

Andy



Chris Hill[_2_] May 20th 09 03:57 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:05:49 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea
wrote:

On May 19, 9:50*pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message

...



I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.

Freckles.


That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?


If they were smart or ambitious,
they would earn an honest living. They aren't.

HeyBub[_3_] May 20th 09 04:41 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


You should be able to check simply by arming the alarm system. If a door or
window is ajar, the alarm system should tell you.



The Daring Dufas[_7_] May 20th 09 04:41 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.

Thanks,

Andy


Did you consider installing bolt latches to
secure the doggie doors when you're away?

TDD

ransley May 20th 09 05:50 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 19, 10:38*pm, WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.

My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.

For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.

Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?

One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)

I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.

Thanks,

Andy


The alarm probaly has a mode to test without alarming, or disconnect
the phone dialer and outside siren and test it. Your way wont test the
control panel. Do you have dogs, I have "Pet Alley" sensors that block
off the down angle they have so only an outward path is detected so
dogs can walk around. Its a regular sensor with plastic to block the
down angled lens. [ motion lights work the same way and can be
adjusted with tape] There are magnetic doggy door locks where the dog
wears a collar to activate and unlock the door. Advanced smoke
detectors have a magnetic area to run a test. If its a monitored
system the monitoring site should help you do all the tests and
testing the phone dialer. No doggy door is safest, poison could be
thrown inside. The new deal is : "Lock Bumping" if you are really
worried look at Medico or a manual keyless that is "Bump Proof". a
12ga is good for peace of mind.

WhiteTea May 20th 09 08:24 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 20, 9:41*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


You should be able to check simply by arming the alarm system. If a door or
window is ajar, the alarm system should tell you.


There is currently no control box. After testing the wires, I will
call in the alarm company to install the control box and a keypad.

Andy

WhiteTea May 20th 09 08:25 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 20, 9:41*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Did you consider installing bolt latches to
secure the doggie doors when you're away?

TDD


They are already installed, but they could easily be kicked in.

Andy

WhiteTea May 20th 09 08:31 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 20, 8:57*am, Chris Hill wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:05:49 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea



wrote:
On May 19, 9:50*pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message


....


I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.


Freckles.


That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?


If they were smart or ambitious,
they would earn an honest living. *They aren't.


My mother's next door neighbor has a Right to Carry License. He now
has permission to do what the law says he can should he see a burglary
in progress.

Andy

George May 20th 09 09:57 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
WhiteTea wrote:
On May 20, 8:57 am, Chris Hill wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:05:49 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea



wrote:
On May 19, 9:50 pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
I am looking for some advice.
My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.
For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.
Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?
One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)
I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.
Thanks,
Andy
Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.
Freckles.
That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?

If they were smart or ambitious,
they would earn an honest living. They aren't.


My mother's next door neighbor has a Right to Carry License. He now
has permission to do what the law says he can should he see a burglary
in progress.

Andy


Assuming you mean a concealed weapon permit such a permit simply allows
you to carry a concealed weapon where the permit is recognized. It
doesn't convey any other rights.

A "castle doctrine" law would need to be in place in that state in order
for someone to defend themselves in their home without worrying about
recourse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

Bob M. May 21st 09 01:40 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
On May 20, 9:41 am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
WhiteTea wrote:
I am looking for some advice.


My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.


For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.


Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?


One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)


I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.


Thanks,


Andy


Did you consider installing bolt latches to
secure the doggie doors when you're away?

TDD

They are already installed, but they could easily be kicked in.

Andy


Put magnet switches on the doggie doors. But you'll need to run a wire out
on the people door.



Stormin Mormon May 21st 09 02:17 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
Do you think it's possible the alarm company has someone who
can test all the switches? Why should you even bother?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"WhiteTea" wrote in message
news:a6a67630-4bc7-4954-8f1b-

There is currently no control box. After testing the wires,
I will
call in the alarm company to install the control box and a
keypad.

Andy



Stormin Mormon May 21st 09 02:19 AM

Alarm system help needed
 
He's mentioned maybe doing away with the doggy doors. But he
hasn't asked any kind of question regarding the doggy doors.
I hope his alarm company can tie him up and waterboard him.
That's about the only way they will figure out what he
wants.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bob M." wrote in message
. ..


Put magnet switches on the doggie doors. But you'll need to
run a wire out
on the people door.




WhiteTea May 24th 09 07:12 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 20, 7:17*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Do you think it's possible the alarm company has someone who
can test all the switches? Why should you even bother?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"WhiteTea" wrote in message

news:a6a67630-4bc7-4954-8f1b-

There is currently no control box. After testing the wires,
I will
call in the alarm company to install the control box and a
keypad.

Andy


I tested the wires to learn how it works and save my mother money.

I found and labeled all the wires for the doors. The basic ADT package
comes with just 2 door sensors and a motion sensor that can "handle"
dogs under 100 lbs.

The 3 security screens don't have continuity when I checked the two
wires that come out of the screen.
(Maybe they still work.)

I will talk to the technician about them when he comes out next week.

P.S.

I would recommend not putting Jesus in written communication along
with "waterboarding".
Folks might think you are Satan's helper.

I hope his alarm company can tie him up and waterboard him.
That's about the only way they will figure out what he
wants.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

Andy

WhiteTea May 24th 09 08:57 PM

Alarm system help needed
 
On May 20, 2:57*pm, George wrote:
WhiteTea wrote:
On May 20, 8:57 am, Chris Hill wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 21:05:49 -0700 (PDT), WhiteTea


wrote:
On May 19, 9:50 pm, "Freckles" wrote:
"WhiteTea" wrote in message
...
I am looking for some advice.
My mother's house was wired up for an alarm system at one time using
security screens, door switches and some window switches.
For some reason, the wires going to the control box were pulled up
into the attic.
Can I check each wire using a continuity checker and opening/closing
each door and window?
One weak area has has two "doggie" doors that are big enough for
someone to crawl through.
(One goes from the yard to a outside room and the other from that room
to a middle room)
I can't see any way other than getting rid of the "doggie" doors.
Thanks,
Andy
Have you considered placing motion detectors in those rooms with the doggie
doors? They can be placed high enough to allow the dogs to go through
without setting the alarm off, but low enough to sense someone walking
through.
Freckles.
That's an idea, but what if the burglar crawls low like a dog?
If they were smart or ambitious,
they would earn an honest living. *They aren't.


My mother's next door neighbor has a Right to Carry License. He now
has permission to do what the law says he can should he see a burglary
in progress.


Andy


Assuming you mean a concealed weapon permit such a permit simply allows
you to carry a concealed weapon where the permit is recognized. It
doesn't convey any other rights.

A "castle doctrine" law would need to be in place in that state in order
for someone to defend themselves in their home without worrying about
recourse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine


Texas does have a Castle Doctrine.

Andy


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